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anorak:
Back to speculation then! My wild guess is that the two-stick was only on very early LHD lorries and the short-stick-switched-splitter arrangement was unique to RHD naturally-aspirated vehicles. Please feel free to disprove this!
Don’t know about RHD trucks but I’ve heard stories about very early 110s to have 2 stick boxes like LBS 76.
At Wyatt’s we had three lb 76’s and they both had the two stick shift which i thought was the norm,i have since learnt (you never stop learning do you) that there were a lot of 5 speed 110’s and that there were a lot of 76’s with 5 speed boxes and only 1 gear lever in that case. P&O had a lot of the 5 speed 110’s & 111s.
I worked at a Scania agents at the time of the 110’s introduction, I never saw a 110 with 2 sticks although its possible it was fitted to earlier lhd models before we got them herel. The gearbox was the same as the LB76, the splitter on those was operated with the 2nd stick via a heavy duty cable, the 110’s had a button( which always buzzed and chattered!) and much lighter cable which operated an air valve to change the splitter. The synchromesh ring and planetry gears in the splitter were not very strong and I changed many of them at the side of the road usually sat in the snow! The splitter was no match for the torque of a 140, they came with the range change box in 71, although that Scania 140 draw bar demo outfit in the pictures has pre 1970 mirror arms which makes me think that the 140 may have been out a couple of years before we got them in the UK and possibley fitted with a splitter?
The range change unit itself was a weak link in the later boxes and qiute a few people opted for a straight 5 speed in 110 or 111’s(not 140). The first 140’s we got could corkscrew the propshaft up if someone was sharp on the clutch but they soon introduced a beefed up version, they were a slow seller to start with and most went to heavy haulage outfits, at the intro we had to keep a new tractor for parts until they were easier to get hold of. I think the first one we had went to Joseph Foulkes a day cab LBT 140 6x4 unit and soon followed by a 4x2 . I also remember Hurdsmans of Oswestry had a very early one, driven by Neville (oxo3 on this site!)
I never forgot my first ride in a new chassis /cab, i couldn’t believe the acceleration they had!
No Bill that is not the one & yes it was a range change (thanks for bearing my query in mind mate)
Yes it was long & pointed straight up for about the first 3rd, then a curve forward & the rest straight, it was also distinctly chrome. The gear nob was a big old black jobbie that was wide and flat (ish) on its top and bottom faces and you could pop a couple of fingers into the slot at the end (I can still see it in my mind)
The unit originally had a twin rear axle (so I was told) that was white with a red band around its middle & as far as I know was later sold to Siddy Self.
Cracking motors IMO & I can still hear the V8 growling through the roof vent as the gases escaped through the eminox (this one never had a rear stack mind)
Hiya Brian , thought you had gone walkabout mate! I can still remember the 140 that Roy Jackman drove for Tiny Lee who had borrowed / stolen or otherwise obtained it for a time, (like he used to) that motor sounded awesome, we had a weekend at Concorrezzo and i think the world and his wife got to drive that round the car park.
LB76:
Hiya Brian , thought you had gone walkabout mate! I can still remember the 140 that Roy Jackman drove for Tiny Lee who had borrowed / stolen or otherwise obtained it for a time, (like he used to) that motor sounded awesome, we had a weekend at Concorrezzo and i think the world and his wife got to drive that round the car park.
No mate I still pop in from time to time (I moderate on a big bike site so keep busy)
Concorrezo brings back a few memories & I sometimes chuckle at the strokes we are pulled there in those lawless days 
blur.
A proper raised roof!
LB76:
At Wyatt’s we had three lb 76’s and they both had the two stick shift which i thought was the norm,i have since learnt (you never stop learning do you) that there were a lot of 5 speed 110’s and that there were a lot of 76’s with 5 speed boxes and only 1 gear lever in that case. P&O had a lot of the 5 speed 110’s & 111s.
i remember as a kid seeing a 111 with a 5 speed for sale at some place or other . my stepdads mate had bought a transcon and while we were picking it up i went walkabout looking at what he had for sale and one of them was ex P+O 111 with 5 speed . wierd thing i thought .
Harry looks like he’s at warp factor 10 with that last pic!
Hi boys
Trev_H:
I worked at a Scania agents at the time of the 110’s introduction, I never saw a 110 with 2 sticks although its possible it was fitted to earlier lhd models before we got them herel. The gearbox was the same as the LB76, the splitter on those was operated with the 2nd stick via a heavy duty cable, the 110’s had a button( which always buzzed and chattered!) and much lighter cable which operated an air valve to change the splitter. The synchromesh ring and planetry gears in the splitter were not very strong and I changed many of them at the side of the road usually sat in the snow! The splitter was no match for the torque of a 140, they came with the range change box in 71, although that Scania 140 draw bar demo outfit in the pictures has pre 1970 mirror arms which makes me think that the 140 may have been out a couple of years before we got them in the UK and possibley fitted with a splitter?
The range change unit itself was a weak link in the later boxes and qiute a few people opted for a straight 5 speed in 110 or 111’s(not 140). The first 140’s we got could corkscrew the propshaft up if someone was sharp on the clutch but they soon introduced a beefed up version, they were a slow seller to start with and most went to heavy haulage outfits, at the intro we had to keep a new tractor for parts until they were easier to get hold of. I think the first one we had went to Joseph Foulkes a day cab LBT 140 6x4 unit and soon followed by a 4x2 . I also remember Hurdsmans of Oswestry had a very early one, driven by Neville (oxo3 on this site!)
I never forgot my first ride in a new chassis /cab, i couldn’t believe the acceleration they had!
Trev we brought a s/h V8 engine in the late 70’s It was an import with a splitter box coupled to it. some time later we needed a new spigot shaft for it as top gear syncros had gone. We went to Scania at Manchester just after they had moved from Hyde to Middleton.and they said Scania did not make such a combination and did not believe us untill we took them outside to see the motor. The shaft was longer to take the twin plate of the V8. They had to send to Sweden for one. Do you remember when the 110 first came out you could not double clutch as the second time you went down the pedal went hard.Scania came out with a mod, parts were provided and fitting was charged. There was a lad who worked for your firm at Kingswinsford but cann’t for the life of me remember his name but he did us a bit of home work 
it wasn’t you was it
Regards Keith
Hi Keith, Yes I remember the troublesome clutch air valve that got modified, I think most of us had jobs on the side ,was it a ginger haired lad named Paul?
I think the 140 was out for 12-18months abroad before they were introduced to the UK, these earlier versions to the UK spec would have the 350bhp motor and splitter box, that would have been deemed the limit for that box, 71 uk spec went to 375bhp and needed a new range change box.
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Does anyone remember seeing this lorry? It looks like a factory demonstrator on a “European tour”- Swedish reg, GB trade plates and horsepower in three different languages, just to make sure! The trailer looks like a German specification one to me.I think I got the picture off one of these pages: mellislastbilar.se/scania/0- … cania2.htm. Change the number 2 in both places and you can see 11 pages of LBs.
Swiss trailer Lanz + Marti.
Hi boys
Trev that’s the lad what happened to him haven’t seen him for 40 years, how time flys when your having fun
Regards Keith
dessert driver:
Hi boys
Trev that’s the lad what happened to him haven’t seen him for 40 years, how time flys when your having funRegards Keith
Hi Keith,
He’s had his own business for years repairing Scania’s, his biggest customer was always Birds transport, I believe him and his son have a garage in Cradley Heath, I haven’t seen him since we left B+W at Kingswinford. Some weekends I used to service Williams bros. trucks at Queensferry and at Peterchurch nr. Hereford.
Trev_H:
dessert driver:
Hi boys
Trev that’s the lad what happened to him haven’t seen him for 40 years, how time flys when your having funRegards Keith
Hi Keith,
He’s had his own business for years repairing Scania’s, his biggest customer was always Birds transport, I believe him and his son have a garage in Cradley Heath, I haven’t seen him since we left B+W at Kingswinford. Some weekends I used to service Williams bros. trucks at Queensferry and at Peterchurch nr. Hereford.
Hi Trev,
Tony ( A I ) Lewis has had Williams old yard at Peterchurch for the last 30 plus years.I will get a pic next time I’m in the yard.
Cheers Dave.
