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anorak:vabisman:
Last week in Sweden…
A LT145… still doing his work every day !!
Hi Vabisman, that is a rare beast. According to Bjorn-Eric Lindh’s book, only 114 LT145s were built, between 1975 and 1976. I think one was exhibited at the RHA Tipper Convention, in Harrogate, in 1976. I am pretty sure they showed the later LT146 model there in 1977 or 1978(313 built, in case you are wondering!). I can’t remember if those show vehicles were RHD, or indeed if any British operators bought any, apart from the one Collet’s had as a tractor unit.
Now, here’s an oddity- were any 6x4 bonneted 140s built? According to Mr. Lindh, no- if you wanted double drive and 14 litres before 1975, you had to have a forward control cab (1171 LBT140s built). However, I know there was an LT140. How? Because there is a picture of one on page 80 of Pat Kennet’s book. It is clearly a 6x4, with hub-reduction axles. I may find out for sure in May, when I am going to visit the Scania Museum. How receptive are they to mad Brits asking even madder questions?
Check this site…
Translate from dutch.
The LT145 is the 6x4 torpedo version of the 0-series.
Built only 114 between 1975-1976.
The LT146 is the 6x4 torpedo version of the 1-series.
Built only 313 between 1976-1980.
This one is a LT145 but new cab with plastic dashboard and not steel.
greetings Vabisman
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anorak:vabisman:
Last week in Sweden…
A LT145… still doing his work every day !!
Hi Vabisman, that is a rare beast. According to Bjorn-Eric Lindh’s book, only 114 LT145s were built, between 1975 and 1976. I think one was exhibited at the RHA Tipper Convention, in Harrogate, in 1976. I am pretty sure they showed the later LT146 model there in 1977 or 1978(313 built, in case you are wondering!). I can’t remember if those show vehicles were RHD, or indeed if any British operators bought any, apart from the one Collet’s had as a tractor unit.
Now, here’s an oddity- were any 6x4 bonneted 140s built? According to Mr. Lindh, no- if you wanted double drive and 14 litres before 1975, you had to have a forward control cab (1171 LBT140s built). However, I know there was an LT140. How? Because there is a picture of one on page 80 of Pat Kennet’s book. It is clearly a 6x4, with hub-reduction axles. I may find out for sure in May, when I am going to visit the Scania Museum. How receptive are they to mad Brits asking even madder questions?
Check this site…
Translate from dutch.
The LT145 is the 6x4 torpedo version of the 0-series.
Built only 114 between 1975-1976.
The LT146 is the 6x4 torpedo version of the 1-series.
Built only 313 between 1976-1980.
This one is a LT145 but new cab with plastic dashboard and not steel.
greetings Vabisman
Hi Vabisman, thanks for the link to Trucker John’s site. He actually states that there was no LT140. So what was one doing in Pat Kennet’s book? The one in the photograph has the old-style nameplate, so I assume it was pre-1975, with a steel dashboard etc. Maybe it was a prototype, or one of a small batch, built to a special order. I would scan the page of the book in, but my flatbed scanner has thrown a leg out of bed, and the roll-through one makes a hell of a mess of books 
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Whatever, my flight to Stockholm is booked, and my TIR-spec bicycle has a reservation in the hold. I will visit the factory and find out!
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anorak:
Hi Vabisman, thanks for the link to Trucker John’s site. He actually states that there was no LT140. So what was one doing in Pat Kennet’s book? The one in the photograph has the old-style nameplate, so I assume it was pre-1975, with a steel dashboard etc. Maybe it was a prototype, or one of a small batch, built to a special order. I would scan the page of the book in, but my flatbed scanner has thrown a leg out of bed, and the roll-through one makes a hell of a mess of booksWhatever, my flight to Stockholm is booked, and my TIR-spec bicycle has a reservation in the hold. I will visit the factory and find out!
The museum at the Scania factory in Södertalje is interesting.
Small but nice. I have been there once and parked my truck between the cars in front of the main office of Scania.
Free entrance and about 25 trucks of all ages. Also trains and bikes and industrial engines are showed.
tuck a walk in the yard, she have beein waiting for the day I have the time,shame on my
Tell that to Norman Lewis and Hoyer 
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That’s a looker…Apart from those loathsome single wheels on the tag axle.
yes the tag hav to have doubelweels
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anorak:LB76:
0That’s a looker…Apart from those loathsome single wheels on the tag axle.
That one is LBS141 AS, which has scanias own air-suspension in back, that´s why the poor mans bogie.
Juilman:
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anorak:LB76:
0That’s a looker…Apart from those loathsome single wheels on the tag axle.
That one is LBS141 AS, which has scanias own air-suspension in back, that´s why the poor mans bogie.
it was ,and untill 3 series all factorybuild had poor mans tags
Poor man’s tags! I’ve never heard that expression before. How apt. Was the air on the tag only? Air was available on the drive axle from 1975, as I understand it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Most UK 6x2s had the poverty option from about 1985. before that they were proper 6x2s.
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anorak:
Poor man’s tags! I’ve never heard that expression before. How apt. Was the air on the tag only? Air was available on the drive axle from 1975, as I understand it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Most UK 6x2s had the poverty option from about 1985. before that they were proper 6x2s.
here in finland and i know even in sweden they whit single where called that,cause aproper bogi or tag had dubbles specly on sweedes and finnish made truck,s.nummek did tag axel,s to Bedford M-B Commer and other “2axel younk”.so the owners of “elit” motors barked thous who where " poor".untill 3series drive and tag was only airsuspension on scania, air on bouth.Volvo where some years earlier will remember,some late 80,s
So the air-suspended 141s only had a single-wheel tag, but the ones with steel-sprung drive axles had twins? If I have understood it correctly, why was this?
Another question- what’s that behind the blue 141, between the other Scania and the F86?
There was no hard and fast rule as regards the twin wheels / air suspension it was a case of pure choice as to what suited each operator, and the mystery vehicle you are referring to is a Scania bus i think.
Bill
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anorak:
So the air-suspended 141s only had a single-wheel tag, but the ones with steel-sprung drive axles had twins? If I have understood it correctly, why was this?Another question- what’s that behind the blue 141, between the other Scania and the F86?
well the M range steelsping range was avalebul with sihgle or double in 2 and 3 series,air only whit doubels ontag since 90 when full air.s came and no fabrik steeltags in 1series whit steeltagas and singles was made,i think,this is no absolutly truh,but