I thought Cenis, but it looks a bit narrow. I too remember scraping the rear underrun bar of my trailer round tight hairpins on back roads across the Pyrenees!
Can’t comment on where the pic was taken, however, I can tell you something about Newexco, they were one of the bigger hauliers in the NE of Holland (Winschoten), and one of the first firms to use subbies (o/d) instead of having a big fleet of their own.
The Newexco name gradually disappeared in the early Noughties, as by then it was owned by De Bruin Surhuisterveen (another house hold name in the North of Holland, which disappeared sadly), but De Bruin sold their operations to Harry Vos, or Vos Logistics. For a while they would still operate under their own names, but with a Vos badge attached to the grille. If a vehicle was up for replacement, the new truck would then carry the Vos name and livery.
Pic’s courtesy of the Newexco FB group.
Madness to think that that was the only way to- and from Italy really…
I reckon there’s a 3.5t limit now on Mont Cenis?
Yes, I remember seeing them in Holland. I always rather liked that tasteful brown & dark yellow livery.
Last time I was there, early 2,000’s it was a 19T design limit. So, 4-wheelers only.
Not enforced much at that time…
Never took the route but what about Ventimiglia ?
I only did Ventimiglia in the 90’s after the autoroute was open.
However although the height limit has now been dropped there was/is a narrow and low tunnel just north of there near Tende that i took once. It was permanent two way for cars but traffic light controlled for trucks with about 15mins each way running as we had to keep to the middle of the arch. Very “interesting”.
And there were other routes over the passes apart from Mt Cenis. Col Montgenevre and The Simplon, were definitely passable for trucks in the 90’s.
Berliet TR 260 similar to the one on which I passed my driving licence in 1980 (Picture D. Fawcett).
I did Ventimiglia once when avoiding the Blanc because of a slight load shift causing a bulge in the tilt. When we got there there was a commotion of confusion because the dogana had changed the system. Even the frequent crossing locals had no idea what was going on and they created a giant lorry park up the hillside from which we walked back down to the melee.
I’d still be there now if it wasn’t for the Dutch and Flemings who, speaking everyone else’s language as well as their own, managed to sort the job out.
Even my magic pass, the lady in the tight jumper who was to become my wife and with whom I normally sailed through Italian customs by hiding in the bunk, couldn’t make a difference there.
I did Ventimiglia once to avoid the Alps - I can’t remember why, perhaps I was heavy or there were delays up there - but the run was excellent. There are about a hundred tunnels and bridges and some fine coastal views. However, it is a long way round so you had to weigh distance fuel costs against mountains fuel costs. Also, when I did it the current Autoroutes had been built so the collective tolls were high so those had to be weighed against the high passes tolls.
I expect (hope) you mean the Alps, otherwise a helluva long way round to get to Spain.
Palermo to Barcelona ferry anyone? Is there one?
Yes, silly me: of course I meant the Alps - thank you! I’ve amended my post.
I’ve just looked up that trip in my log and I was running mega light but it February '02 and I do remember that was quite a bad winter, so I suspect that weather had something to do with my decision.
There is a surprising (to me) network of Med ferries.
The A9 had extensive hazard limits so tanker trucks would the ferry from Barcelona to Genoa. I know that happened in the 90’s and imagine it is still current.
I have been to Sicily a few times by ferry from Genoa.
When on for one company we used to go by road all the way to San Giovani and then get the ferry to Messina.
Load of fuel, tolls, and time. About a full week to get down and tip.
With another company, down to Genoa and ship out Tues night. Arrive Palermo Weds night. Tip and back on the same boat. Back to Torino to load good paying groupage Friday night rather than collect carp rate, heavy goods such as sand from S Italy on Monday.
The ferry is not cheap but if you do the sums it can work out the best bet. Too much time on the boat for my taste, but OK now and again.
I do like the area around Cannes and Nice. I did a fair of groupage drops collections around there for a few years.
Monaco can be a cow in a truck. No space to swing a cat half the time. The last time I was there they had opened up some more road tunnels. You really need to keep on the ball there as satnav do not work underground and the tunnels all seem to loop around and over each other. Weight limits and time limits and swarms of scooters everywhere.
We had a regular small tip on Cannes seafront. Bit nerve-wracking on first visit, going past all the no truck signs!
Collection inside St Tropez was OK in early morning but a pain in the afternoon. And using any of the coast road was best done as early as possible especially in the summer of course.
Loads of niggles, but mostly minor, so a good time working there.
I never did that crossing. I went from both Bari and from Brindisi. I
think that “old tubs” would be a valid comment.
One sticks out in the memory. It looked like an old container ship, not one of the huge ones.
To get on the top deck we drove up a steep ramp through the aft superstructure. Thick matting was thrown under the rear trailer bar so it would slide over the deck when it hit bottom. Once on tpo you could …just…spin around. All freight no passengers. Very basic food . The davits for the lifeboats had about twenty coats of paint over them.
Another one was an ex passenger ferry with all the signs written in either Japanese or Korean or similar. Very low ceilings in the accommodation.
Greece was nice for a change but I wouldn’t have wanted it all the time.
We took TVs and ship stores out there so not much fun in Italy really.
I also once did the short crossing from Pelopones to the Greek mainland - from Rio to Antirrio (see pic below: I was driving the back one). A decade later I was doing it by motorway.
I only did Athens and Piraeus. Which are pretty much the same really. About 4 trips in all.
Did a few of the other Med Islands too. Sicily I mentioned, Sardinia a few times, as before from Genoa. The ferry passes by Monte Cristo as in the Dumas novel. A big rock with a few dozen goats from what I remember.
Corsica once. Lovely place. Took a cabin cruiser type boat there. Shipped from Toulouse, empty ( a few days later ) to Livorno. Loaded from Italy for Gibraltar. Empty from there to Porto, to run home.
On the run from Gib to Portugal I looked on the map and went for the ferry from near Ayamonte… it only took bikes and cars. But no rush so no problem. there is a M-way bridge there now.
Minorca, Ibiza, both from Barcelona. 3 of us were stranded on Ibiza for nearly a week, such hardships.
Most interesting, both of you, thank you. My original question was half in jest, never having used a ferry with a truck except on the Channel. Most of my experience of the Med coast, Italy and Spain came after my retirement during my 2nd wind on the roads of Europe delivering the dogs.
I did nearly get a Sicily run though but in the end my bespoke service was too expensive and I lost out to a commercial transporter carrying about 30 or 40 dogs. I met him at Piacenza after he changed the rdv from Milan. The upside was that I did discover 2 very good family run routiers in Italy that I had not known of before.
Always a good result.