Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

Old Bussings…a

Nostalgic old pic

A few years ago there were a couple of (I think?) German lads that brought two 50’s/60’s Bussing wagon and drags across to the UK and exhibited them at various steam rallies etc. I saw them at the Lincoln event and they had all mod cons in them including a bath. They haven’t come for several years now though.

Pete.

Pantechnicon on Bùssing.

The Büssing chassis was just about ideal for a pantechnicon- more space for the crew and a voluminous load. I wonder if any GB specialists considered using mid-engined bus chassis for that application?

Now, regarding Büssing- did the late 1960s-onwards cab (The modern one, which eventually went to Turkey) come in multiple widths? Some appear wider than others?

Fergie47:
Nostalgic old pic

The Berliet CBAC was the first diesel-powered truck of the firm c. 1930. Using an Acro injection licence, they had many problems with cylinder heads and valve seats splitting. That was finally solved by using an appropriate metal combination.Then, within 3 years, a full range of heavy vehicles was offered, with big 6-wheelers and tractors for semi-trailers.

tonyj105:

Fergie47:

pv83:

robthedog:
Nice

The other day I was having a conversation with a fellow “Francophile” and eventually we ended up discussing the yellow light bulbs the French used to have. Was this a French law at the time? Because it certainly made a difference when you were driving at night and oncoming traffic wasn’t blinding you with their headlights as they do now in some cases. But I’ve never seen yellow light bulbs outside France, so I always assumed it was a French law…?

Not sure whether it was a legal requirement or not Whips, but certainly most French vehicles in the late sixties and seventies had them. I was told that they were better when in fog, (or smog in cities, ?) I’ve collected a few over the years and a while back I fitted one of them on to a bike that had twin headlights, one yellow, one white, not for any other reason than I thought, safety, it might make people take a second look when pulling out of a junction…
Our neighbor has a 2cv with them in, maybe it’s because it’s a “vehicle collection” its age means it can still have them… modern flash looking headlamps are all hi-tech, so can’t see them doing yellow just for the French market…but I’m guessing that with EU rules, you can only have white lights facing forward…
Hopefully one of our European lads will be along to tell us the real reason…

1st time my dad went to st tropez, spot the yellow headlights, he went to great lengths to find the legalities for the trip,
Tony

Now that must have been quite the sleeper cab back in the day! :laughing:

From the old shoe box collection, the bodies on the wagons shown here were all made by Italian firm Plastoblok (bit of a unusual name for Italians?), Plastoblok is still going strong apparently.

Some more (nmp)

French-Italian “marriage” :wink:

Rummaging around in the garage looking for a cutting disc, came across the “yellow collection”

Top pic is a pair of H4s… a 6v H/L and another H4 with a removable conversion cover…the Mazda bulb kit is original for a Renault, as per box…

Not sure about the legality of using them, probably get away with it on a classic car / lorry though…

windrush:
A few years ago there were a couple of (I think?) German lads that brought two 50’s/60’s Bussing wagon and drags across to the UK and exhibited them at various steam rallies etc. I saw them at the Lincoln event and they had all mod cons in them including a bath. They haven’t come for several years now though.

Pete.

I got a lift in a Bussing 6x4 once, very spacious sleeper cab , and very quiet too…then had to get back into a Guy BigJ, with a noisy ■■■■■■■■ and no sleeper…the UK lorries were a million miles away from the Europeans in the ,'60’s and '70’s, now, 50 years on the UK don’t make a lorry…sad really.

[zb]
anorak:
I wonder if any GB specialists considered using mid-engined bus chassis for that application?

Anorak…I think some used the Bedford coach chassis…maybe if any removal lads read this thread, they might be able to confirm…


Who built the cab on what chassis?

Certainly a Fiat chassis, but unfortunately no idea about the coachbuilder.

I think Albion built a under-floor engine, named Claymore .

Fergie47:
Rummaging around in the garage looking for a cutting disc, came across the “yellow collection”

Top pic is a pair of H4s… a 6v H/L and another H4 with a removable conversion cover…the Mazda bulb kit is original for a Renault, as per box…

Not sure about the legality of using them, probably get away with it on a classic car / lorry though…

Great, good thing you didn’t chucked that in the bin yet Senior :wink: Makes me wonder though… would those bulbs be available in H7 form?

Fergie47:

windrush:
A few years ago there were a couple of (I think?) German lads that brought two 50’s/60’s Bussing wagon and drags across to the UK and exhibited them at various steam rallies etc. I saw them at the Lincoln event and they had all mod cons in them including a bath. They haven’t come for several years now though.

Pete.

I got a lift in a Bussing 6x4 once, very spacious sleeper cab , and very quiet too…then had to get back into a Guy BigJ, with a noisy ■■■■■■■■ and no sleeper…the UK lorries were a million miles away from the Europeans in the ,'60’s and '70’s, now, 50 years on the UK don’t make a lorry…sad really.

As much as I like to see the older English makes, they weren’t in the same league as the “continental” contesters were they? As you say Senior, that must have been quite a shock to discover you could have a insulated cab, sleeper cab, a decent engine, seats with air suspension etc. I really wonder why it took 'em so long to catch up with the rest? IMHO the ERF C series and Foden 4000 series came close, but by then the war was already lost…? Putting my PPM’s on now, as I expect a lot of impact from the more experienced lads!

Froggy55:
Certainly a Fiat chassis, but unfortunately no idea about the coachbuilder.

I thought it was a Lancia chassis, clueless about the cab, it could be a possibility that Plastoblok made that too, but it must have been a one-off then…?

Fergie47:

[zb]
anorak:
I wonder if any GB specialists considered using mid-engined bus chassis for that application?

Anorak…I think some used the Bedford coach chassis…maybe if any removal lads read this thread, they might be able to confirm…

That’s a lead worth following. I found this:
flickr.com/groups/1234733@N … 900411557/

Quite apart from bus chassis as furniture vans, I spotted an interesting vehicle in he header of that page. A bit more digging revealed this:


A coachbuilt high roof LB80! I think that deserves a place in the Home Brew Sleeper Cab thread.