I know I’m a silly old fool but things go catch my eye in the magnificent array of pictures you guys manage to find.
I would not have known it was a FBW - never heard of one to be honest - but I can’t help but note that the container is secured with just 2 cargo straps. Clearly modern cargo straps are much stronger than I was used to. Or are they?
David
rigsby:
Good answer considering that you are already in enough trouble . Regardless of doom laden threats , I reckon if you take Mrs Fergie nice bunch of flowers she’ll be putty in your hands .
Mrs Fergie eats putty for breakfast, along with cute puppies, and badly behaved children…he’ll be wearing those flowers via a 'ole in his 'ead…Diamonds work though
pv83:
And surprisingly, dogs, cats and women are always feeling quite at ease when I’m around…
They don’t feel at ease when Mrs Fergie’s around
pv83:
Is this a Latil as well?
Dunno what it is, but if I turned up on a Monday morning and the boss said “there’s your wagon” he’d be looking for a new driver, and Id be looking for a new job…that’s one ugly sucker… however, if it had an auto box, I could recommend a certain driver to the boss… 
Fergie47:
pv83:
Is this a Latil as well?Dunno what it is, but if I turned up on a Monday morning and the boss said “there’s your wagon” he’d be looking for a new driver, and Id be looking for a new job…that’s one ugly sucker… however, if it had an auto box, I could recommend a certain driver to the boss…
Get back in that knife draw!
pete smith:
Fergie47:
pv83:
Is this a Latil as well?Dunno what it is, but if I turned up on a Monday morning and the boss said “there’s your wagon” he’d be looking for a new driver, and Id be looking for a new job…that’s one ugly sucker… however, if it had an auto box, I could recommend a certain driver to the boss…
Get back in that knife draw!
Froggy55:
pv83:
Nearly forgot the popquiz question of this week…What make is it?
Cigars will be handed out by Mr. Smith…
FBW
Froggy55:
pv83:
Is this a Latil as well?This is a Becquet, built on a Saviem JM chassis.
Cheers Froggy!
[zb]
anorak:pv83:
Nearly forgot the popquiz question of this week…What make is it?
Cigars will be handed out by Mr. Smith…
FBW:
google.co.uk/search?q=fbw&c … eW2tGDPbvM:
The Swiss know how to look after their vehicles. Everything I see on the internet looks factory-fresh.Now, how about this:
nuessli-agasul.ch/index.php/ … enault-fbw
Interesting…er…Renault/FBW thingie…
David Miller:
I know I’m a silly old fool but things go catch my eye in the magnificent array of pictures you guys manage to find.
I would not have known it was a FBW - never heard of one to be honest - but I can’t help but note that the container is secured with just 2 cargo straps. Clearly modern cargo straps are much stronger than I was used to. Or are they?David
Silly old fool…with sharpish eyes 
You’re not the only one who has never heard of FBW before…
About that container, can’t see it properly, but isn’t it secured by the twist locks? If it was, the straps wouldn’t be needed though, would it…?
About the strength of those straps, I’ve got some on the trailer that are capable of securing 10t each, and I’ve got 4 of those…don’t like to use 'em though, bit unhandable stuff that is…
Fergie47:
rigsby:
Good answer considering that you are already in enough trouble . Regardless of doom laden threats , I reckon if you take Mrs Fergie nice bunch of flowers she’ll be putty in your hands .Mrs Fergie eats putty for breakfast, along with cute puppies, and badly behaved children…he’ll be wearing those flowers via a 'ole in his 'ead…Diamonds work though
pv83:
And surprisingly, dogs, cats and women are always feeling quite at ease when I’m around…They don’t feel at ease when Mrs Fergie’s around
Fergie47:
pv83:
Is this a Latil as well?Dunno what it is, but if I turned up on a Monday morning and the boss said “there’s your wagon” he’d be looking for a new driver, and Id be looking for a new job…that’s one ugly sucker… however, if it had an auto box, I could recommend a certain driver to the boss…
Who’s the spoilt brat now eh, I’ve driven lorries worse then that, not a single complaint the guvs heard from me
pv83:
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What’s going on with these DAFs? They look like they have been converted to electric motor hubs, although I bet the truth is nothing of the sort.
[zb]
anorak:pv83:
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0What’s going on with these DAFs? They look like they have been converted to electric motor hubs, although I bet the truth is nothing of the sort.
Wooden “clogs” to keep them as low as possible on the train…
pv83:
Odd ones…
I’ve done a bit of reading around these:
The above vehicle is a Yarovit, a license-built Terberg, according to the thing I read. They use cabs built by a firm called Belkarplastik, which also makes cabs for the current MZKT range, I discovered. For some reason, Yarovit don’t want to use Paccar products. Is anyone aware of any antipathy between Russia and Paccar? It ain’t 'cos they is American, because Yarovit lists ■■■■■■■ engines as options (Deutz is standard). I wonder why Terberg don’t offer the Belkar cab as an option? I bet it would come cheaper than the DAF one. It certainly looks distinctive enough.
mining-media.ru/en/articleen/39- … generation
google.co.uk/search?q=Belka … ZzIBfm02aM:
Dunno what this one is. Edit- I’ve found out what it is. It’s an American Tor truck, which uses a ■■■■■■■ ISX. They make crane carriers, dock tractors etc. I can’t work out whose cab that is, though. I think it night be Japanese.
I had never heard about Yarovit before. Thanks for the discovery!
About the strength of those straps, I’ve got some on the trailer that are capable of securing 10t each, and I’ve got 4 of those…don’t like to use 'em though, bit unhandable stuff that is…
Morning Patrick.
I learnt what I know of ‘Cargo Restraint’ in the Merchant Navy where these things are treated quite seriously because if you get it wrong it might involve a long swim home. Indeed the first ship I joined at 16 years old was in the process of loading a deck cargo of huge steam railway locomotives weighing around 100 tons each for the voyage to India round the Cape. You need a lot of Cargo Straps for them!. Among the million and one things I was taught on that first trip was that strops work best when they are in ‘opposition’ to each other - as you may have noticed if you ever saw them chaining your truck down for a bad crossing. On your 10t straps there will be a label showing the test weights and the 10t will be shown as the strap used on a straight pull. If you run a strap over sharp corners which concentrate stress - like a container - the effect is to reduce the capability by about 40% and if the straps are of the usual hairy, frayed and damaged variety then their worth is further reduced to maybe 10% of the original. In short they need using with caution.
When I started driving it was all roping and sheeting where you, and everybody else, could see what you had done but now with Tautliners there is a bit of a tendency to pull the curtains and leave the goods to look after themselves or, at best, drape a centrally mounted strap over them. As I am sure you know the Germans take this problem so seriously they have regular roadside checks for load security - with fines and prohibitions.
There seems to be a general lack of understanding among people who aren’t drivers as well. I sold my old washing machine on Saturday to a bloke who turned up in a rented Transit. I helped him lift it in the back - heavy ain’t they? - so it was just standing in the back of an empty van. He started to close the doors so I said maybe he should put something round it to restrain it. ‘Oh no’ he said rather disdainfully, ‘there’s a concrete block inside there, It will never move’. I hope he was right.
David
Fergie47:
[zb]
anorak:pv83:
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0What’s going on with these DAFs? They look like they have been converted to electric motor hubs, although I bet the truth is nothing of the sort.
Wooden “clogs” to keep them as low as possible on the train…
You’re quite font of those clogs eh?
I will bring a pair with me, what size do you’ve got, 9?
Froggy55:
I had never heard about Yarovit before. Thanks for the discovery!
Yorivit…Tor trucks…never heard of those as well, cheers for supplying the info mate
That’s what I absolutely love about this thread, you post some pic’s of “odd” or unidentified lorries, and there’s always someone on here who knows more about it!
So here’s a salute to each one of you fine gents! (aye, that includes you as well Fergie )
You’re spot on about securing your load properly David, I might take the mickey about lot’s of things, but I’ve taken that one quite serious!
Can’t remember how many times I’ve heard the older and therefore “experienced” lads say; nah, no need to strap/chain it down lad, it’s heavy enough so will stay in place… 
It’s indeed quite a lively topic in Germany, right up until that point that you’re fed up with it, it goes a bit too far I reckon…on the other hand, they do have got a fair point, better be safe then sorry and such…and the coppers are always willing to discuss matters, and hear “our” side of the story. And if they see you’d put some effort into strapping/chaining the load properly, your in the clear on that subject most of the times…
Three TOE’d frog:
Robert
pv83:
Fergie47:
[zb]
anorak:pv83:
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0What’s going on with these DAFs? They look like they have been converted to electric motor hubs, although I bet the truth is nothing of the sort.
Wooden “clogs” to keep them as low as possible on the train…
You’re quite font of those clogs eh?
I will bring a pair with me, what size do you’ve got, 9?
10…in pink, with pictures of :-. windmills, girls in funny hats, Edam cheese, canals, bicycles, Rotterdam docks…an an F89,
