Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

pv83:

Fergie47:
One for young Patrick…why bother with all that dismantling…whack a board on the back, off you go…

Blimey mate, nice found! Bit “livin’ on the edge” that was… :unamused:
Now, what you can’t see from this angle is that I was indeed the driver…I’m sure I’ve got a pic somewhere from the front with me behind the wheel…

Found it! :wink:

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I don’t like the adventurous sort of driving, presumably because of my age, so that’s the main reason why I was in Poland the past two weeks…:wink:

Had to load some stuff for the armed forces, but due to some delay, I got a chance to wonder around a bit at the barracks…the Polish army still uses proper old ( quite literally) material, the oldest I saw was a tank of Russian make, and was 40 years old… (sorry, no pic)

The STAR lorries looked like they’ve been in service for quite some time, the Jelzc lorries looked brand though…

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jsutherland:
That last one is something else! Can’t imagine Patrick getting far with that on a German autobahn without being pulled over!

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German coppers…aka the party poopers :laughing:

Some nice pic’s there young-un, amazed you actually got to get inside one… :wink:

pv83:
Charlier from Liege.
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That 142 looks good enough to eat. Notice that the front wheels have a bit of offset. I assume they are carrying super singles. Others may know better.

Fergie47:
A mix of wagon and drags.

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Interesting! Nevertheless, I really think this outfit will come to a standstill at the very start of the first hill!

Fergie and Patrick. Another great selection of photo finds. Thank you. But I do have 2 questions:

In your pictures Fergie there is a white Fiat and trailer. The lettering, owner, place etc is in Spanish but the numberplate clearly is not Spanish (even they would not allow a windscreen half obscured with white sticky plastic). So I am puzzled. Any ideas where the picture came from?

And Patrick; your very impressive crane move is illegal surely? Should there not have been a piece of red cloth attached to the hook? :unamused:

David

David Miller:
Fergie and Patrick. Another great selection of photo finds. Thank you. But I do have 2 questions:

In your pictures Fergie there is a white Fiat and trailer. The lettering, owner, place etc is in Spanish but the numberplate clearly is not Spanish (even they would not allow a windscreen half obscured with white sticky plastic). So I am puzzled. Any ideas where the picture came from?

And Patrick; your very impressive crane move is illegal surely? Should there not have been a piece of red cloth attached to the hook? :unamused:

David

Brazil?

Froggy55:

Fergie47:
A mix of wagon and drags.

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Interesting! Nevertheless, I really think this outfit will come to a standstill at the very start of the first hill!

When I first saw the picture I thought the same, but, I’ve also seen those wagons as 6X4 tractor units, (including a military version) so at one point I guess some pretty powerful engines fitted…

David Miller:
Fergie and Patrick. Another great selection of photo finds. Thank you. But I do have 2 questions:

In your pictures Fergie there is a white Fiat and trailer. The lettering, owner, place etc is in Spanish but the numberplate clearly is not Spanish (even they would not allow a windscreen half obscured with white sticky plastic). So I am puzzled. Any ideas where the picture came from?

And Patrick; your very impressive crane move is illegal surely? Should there not have been a piece of red cloth attached to the hook? :unamused:

David

David, sorry, I get sent these pics from two lorry enthusiasts in France, but very little details I’m afraid

However,. I’d hazard a guess, as you said Spanish, very much a Spanish look too, but maybe registered in Morocco ? There is a lot of traffic between the two countries, so maybe this is a Spanish company running out of Morocco , with possible tax advantages ?..

Re the white fiat drawbar,googling bahia blanca off the tarpaulin suggests a town near Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Hope that helps,steve

vwvanman0:
Re the white fiat drawbar,googling bahia blanca off the tarpaulin suggests a town near Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Hope that helps,steve

Nice one Steve…not near Morocco then ?.. :blush: …still, was only a guess… :unamused:

Thank you gentlemen. That would seem to be the most likely answer.
There are many Bahia Blanca’s around the Spanish speaking world but only this one looks large enough to be the operating center for a nice smart Fiat. Most of them are just White Bays :smiley:

David

Fergie47:

Froggy55:

Fergie47:
A mix of wagon and drags.

Interesting! Nevertheless, I really think this outfit will come to a standstill at the very start of the first hill!

When I first saw the picture I thought the same, but, I’ve also seen those wagons as 6X4 tractor units, (including a military version) so at one point I guess some pretty powerful engines fitted…

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Well, here’s the result of my enquiry. The Renault/Saviem “Fainéant” (lazy) was produced from 1949 to 1968, and initially fitted with 105 bhp engines. Some 23 6x4 models (type R 4222) were produced in 1950/51 with the type 568 engine (105 x 120 x 6; 105 bhp at 2200 rpm).


An unique 6x6 prototype was even manufactured, using the same engine, in 1951. The power was then upgraded to 120 bhp (engine type 572) in 1952, and finally 150 bhp (type 130.10; 110 x 120 x 6) in 1961. Petrol engines were also available for rmy uses. All pictures from issue 20 of Charge-utile Magazine.

I Still somehow doubt that even its most powerful engine (150 bhp for 6.8 litres) would move a 6-wheel trailor up the slightest hill, and think that picture could have been tken for advertising purposes.

Fergie47:
Some nice pic’s there young-un, amazed you actually got to get inside one… :wink:

Er…I became very friendly with the female guard on duty, that seemed to help :blush:

David Miller:
Fergie and Patrick. Another great selection of photo finds. Thank you. But I do have 2 questions:

In your pictures Fergie there is a white Fiat and trailer. The lettering, owner, place etc is in Spanish but the numberplate clearly is not Spanish (even they would not allow a windscreen half obscured with white sticky plastic). So I am puzzled. Any ideas where the picture came from?

And Patrick; your very impressive crane move is illegal surely? Should there not have been a piece of red cloth attached to the hook? :unamused:

David

I knew I’d forgotten sommat… :laughing:
And it’s only illegal when you get pulled over by the authorities :wink:

The Fiat truck was in Argentina ,it seems. Last April I was there and saw this one without any trailer.

Without a doubt Michel.

Why, I wonder, is the whole of South America enamoured with those very fragile looking automatic tyre inflators? I should have asked in Colombia.

David

In France, we also got something like that in the 50th.

Off FB areal view of hotel & restaurant plenty of camions so would have been good, Buzzer.

Buzzer:
Off FB areal view of hotel & restaurant plenty of camions so would have been good, Buzzer.

Hi John, hope you’re well…? I put that pic up a while back, Saviem, as usual, came up with all the details, even on some of the wagons parked up there, it’s somewhere on this thread, but too many pages to go back through… :wink: