Fergie47:
la Cimetiere
Hi Fergie,
Froggy55:
Fergie47:
la CimetiereHi Fergie,
1
Here’s the scale model (1/43) of the beautiful Berliet GBO rescue truck, beside a c. 1960 Berliet coach (I used to drive a similar one in 1982)0
Probably the mysteries of Internet, but the genuine original picture of this c. 1938 Latil H2 was taken by myself in Mr Lorin’s former graveyard in Fontenay sur Loing (1993). I unfortunately think it was scrapped since.
Froggy…that model could have fooled me, only now you’ve pointed it out I can see the rear axle off the ground !!! , but what a beautiful job the guy made of it, wasn’t you was it ?
I guess there are only so many photos of old lorries, French,or other wise, on the internet, I’ve notice several of mine that have popped up on various sites over the years, and at least two have appeared in magazines…but like you, the more the merrier, it’s about sharing with the rest of the world your interest in your pics with other like minded people… I’m really not that enamoured with people who post up with “copyright” plastered all over their photo, spoiling the pic for a start, and which means you can’t share it with others unless you get in touch and ask permission…I personally don’t see the point on sharing on that basics, why post them if they can’t be shared…still, no doubt people have their reasons although I’m not sure what…(stand by for some flak from the professionals)…Anyway, lovely photo, and sad to think that the old girl never got saved,…
Fergie47:
Froggy55:
Fergie47:
la CimetiereHi Fergie,
1
Here’s the scale model (1/43) of the beautiful Berliet GBO rescue truck, beside a c. 1960 Berliet coach (I used to drive a similar one in 1982)0
Probably the mysteries of Internet, but the genuine original picture of this c. 1938 Latil H2 was taken by myself in Mr Lorin’s former graveyard in Fontenay sur Loing (1993). I unfortunately think it was scrapped since.Froggy…that model could have fooled me, only now you’ve pointed it out I can see the rear axle off the ground !!! , but what a beautiful job the guy made of it, wasn’t you was it ?
I guess there are only so many photos of old lorries, French,or other wise, on the internet, I’ve notice several of mine that have popped up on various sites over the years, and at least two have appeared in magazines…but like you, the more the merrier, it’s about sharing with the rest of the world your interest in your pics with other like minded people… I’m really not that enamoured with people who post up with “copyright” plastered all over their photo, spoiling the pic for a start, and which means you can’t share it with others unless you get in touch and ask permission…I personally don’t see the point on sharing on that basics, why post them if they can’t be shared…still, no doubt people have their reasons although I’m not sure what…(stand by for some flak from the professionals)…Anyway, lovely photo, and sad to think that the old girl never got saved,…
Morning Fergie,
If people get funny about their photo’s appearing on other sites they should keep them in a ■■■■■■■ suitcase under the bed!
pete smith:
Morning Fergie,
If people get funny about their photo’s appearing on other sites they should keep them in a [zb] suitcase under the bed!
Listen Pierre, I want you to say things as they are, don’t beat about the bush … 
Bl**dy pink Cropduster owners… 
pete smith:
Fergie47:
…I guess there are only so many photos of old lorries, French,or other wise, on the internet, I’ve notice several of mine that have popped up on various sites over the years, and at least two have appeared in magazines…but like you, the more the merrier, it’s about sharing with the rest of the world your interest in your pics with other like minded people… I’m really not that enamoured with people who post up with “copyright” plastered all over their photo, spoiling the pic for a start, and which means you can’t share it with others unless you get in touch and ask permission…I personally don’t see the point on sharing on that basics, why post them if they can’t be shared…still, no doubt people have their reasons although I’m not sure what…(stand by for some flak from the professionals)…Anyway, lovely photo, and sad to think that the old girl never got saved,…Morning Fergie,
If people get funny about their photo’s appearing on other sites they should keep them in a [zb] suitcase under the bed!
Some people make a wage out of selling prints, books, videos etc, so watermarking those photos before sharing on the internet is OK. Without the cash incentive, those photos might well have made the journey from suitcase to dustbin without interruption.
The problem is the people who post stuff, then try to stop people sharing it by reposting it on other sites. The idiots do not seem to understand that, the minute it appears, anywhere, it is free to everyone on the planet, however many sites it appears on. The sharing of the information is a good thing- it stimulates further research and sharing of information. Attempting to stop it is pointless and stupid. The other daft thing is print-selling sites who watermark their photos, then ban the sharing of the watermarked stuff, thereby cutting off their main avenue of marketing! Idiots all.
Another seemingly pernicious trend is exemplified by the site Pinterest- it hosts/hoards photographs, insisting on viewers signing up to look at them. I have not signed up- I would expect spam, at the very least. Does anyone have any experience of it?
There was no bigger poacher of other peoples photos from the net than me, 1000s in my Pictures folder all for free and that is is fine, it’s when you start “using” them that brings you into breach of copyright law. When I joined TruckNet I decided to share them, posting 100s on Bubbleman’s excellent Scrapbook thread but on page 281, post 19, a hint of disquiet appears, so apology on page 24, I took the hint and started Past Present and In Between, got to page 10 post 13, a rightful claim(by poster page 281 post 19, Scrapbook thd)) that I had posted a photo in breach of copyright, the picture in question I had “borrowed” from the Ronnie Cameron Collection, it was “clean” (no copyright mark), a public spat(removed by admin) lead to a bollocking with post 19. From then on I did a bit of research into copyright laws, poaching days over 
There are thousands upon thousands of usable lorry/truck images on the net, all Creative Commons pics except All Rights Reserved, everything on Wikimedia Commons, both as long as attribution is given to the owners, there are other sources as well, search civic libraries, quite often Public Domain pics can be found there.
In 2012 I started snapping my own pics, over 6000(lorry) on flickr and I am very happy to see them favoured and being used by others within the CC licence nc nd, nc means not to be used commercially, nd means non derivative, that means cropping a select part of the image. Hopefully this gives some clarification.
I have also written to a number of people with truck collections in the US, OZ, NZ and UK, not one refused, those who did not already have marked their photos requested I respect their wish for recognition.
Oily
oiltreader:
There was no bigger poacher of other peoples photos from the net than me, 1000s in my Pictures folder all for free and that is is fine, it’s when you start “using” them that brings you into breach of copyright law. When I joined TruckNet I decided to share them, posting 100s on Bubbleman’s excellent Scrapbook thread but on page 281, post 19, a hint of disquiet appears, so apology on page 24, I took the hint and started Past Present and In Between, got to page 10 post 13, a rightful claim(by poster page 281 post 19, Scrapbook thd)) that I had posted a photo in breach of copyright, the picture in question I had “borrowed” from the Ronnie Cameron Collection, it was “clean” (no copyright mark), a public spat(removed by admin) lead to a bollocking with post 19. From then on I did a bit of research into copyright laws, poaching days over
There are thousands upon thousands of usable lorry/truck images on the net, all Creative Commons pics except All Rights Reserved, everything on Wikimedia Commons, both as long as attribution is given to the owners, there are other sources as well, search civic libraries, quite often Public Domain pics can be found there.
In 2012 I started snapping my own pics, over 6000(lorry) on flickr and I am very happy to see them favoured and being used by others within the CC licence nc nd, nc means not to be used commercially, nd means non derivative, that means cropping a select part of the image. Hopefully this gives some clarification.
I have also written to a number of people with truck collections in the US, OZ, NZ and UK, not one refused, those who did not already have marked their photos requested I respect their wish for recognition.
Oily
Bloody hell, that’s me confused now Oily… 
pete smith:
Patrick,
How about this old girl for the day?
Oh aye, smart wagon that is Pete! Don’t know about reversing that drawbar trailer though…
Oh, and did you check wether you could post this pic with or without permission of whomever took the pic in the first place…even if that means going beyond the grave…
Cheers, Patrick
Fergie47:
SM8:
What a Beast!Trawl back through this thread and you’ll find a lot more pics and info on these magnificent old wagons .
Am up to page 7 atm, not seen any beasts as yet but have learnt a fair bit about spuds and bollinger . Lulzed packed thread packed with pics, perfic
RIP Saviem
pete smith:
Fergie47:
Froggy55:
Fergie47:
la CimetiereHi Fergie,
1
Here’s the scale model (1/43) of the beautiful Berliet GBO rescue truck, beside a c. 1960 Berliet coach (I used to drive a similar one in 1982)0
Probably the mysteries of Internet, but the genuine original picture of this c. 1938 Latil H2 was taken by myself in Mr Lorin’s former graveyard in Fontenay sur Loing (1993). I unfortunately think it was scrapped since.Froggy…that model could have fooled me, only now you’ve pointed it out I can see the rear axle off the ground !!! , but what a beautiful job the guy made of it, wasn’t you was it ?
I guess there are only so many photos of old lorries, French,or other wise, on the internet, I’ve notice several of mine that have popped up on various sites over the years, and at least two have appeared in magazines…but like you, the more the merrier, it’s about sharing with the rest of the world your interest in your pics with other like minded people… I’m really not that enamoured with people who post up with “copyright” plastered all over their photo, spoiling the pic for a start, and which means you can’t share it with others unless you get in touch and ask permission…I personally don’t see the point on sharing on that basics, why post them if they can’t be shared…still, no doubt people have their reasons although I’m not sure what…(stand by for some flak from the professionals)…Anyway, lovely photo, and sad to think that the old girl never got saved,…
Morning Fergie,
If people get funny about their photo’s appearing on other sites they should keep them in a [zb] suitcase under the bed!
Personally, when I see one of my pics somewhere, I take it as a compliment, as long as another guy hasn’t plastered his own “Copyright” on it! Indeed, only valuable items are worth of interest!
Concerning the scale model GBO, it is a Chinese-made IXO model commercialised by Hachette within a fire rescue truck collection; I must have pais some €30 for it; the same for the coach. Sometimes, these models are rather poor, but the two are remarkably good!
pv83:
pete smith:
Patrick,
How about this old girl for the day?Oh aye, smart wagon that is Pete! Don’t know about reversing that drawbar trailer though…
Oh, and did you check wether you could post this pic with or without permission of whomever took the pic in the first place…even if that means going beyond the grave…Cheers, Patrick
Hello Patrick, an answer to “even if that means going beyond the grave”
Under UK copyright law for example, the copyright duration is typically 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies.
Copyright law varies in different countries.
IMHO images “borrowed” from the net are the lifeblood of Trucknet and the thread I started would not be where it is without the support of posters wanting to share what they have found. Long may it go on.
Oily
French scene from 2013.
Accident ferroviaire de Brétigny-sur-Orge - La grue qui a servi au relevage des voitures - Gare de Brétigny - Essonne - France
Oily
oiltreader:
pv83:
pete smith:
Patrick,
How about this old girl for the day?Oh aye, smart wagon that is Pete! Don’t know about reversing that drawbar trailer though…
Oh, and did you check wether you could post this pic with or without permission of whomever took the pic in the first place…even if that means going beyond the grave…Cheers, Patrick
Hello Patrick, an answer to “even if that means going beyond the grave”
Under UK copyright law for example, the copyright duration is typically 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies.
Copyright law varies in different countries.
IMHO images “borrowed” from the net are the lifeblood of Trucknet and the thread I started would not be where it is without the support of posters wanting to share what they have found. Long may it go on.
Oily
Hiya Oily, cheers for the explanation, never thought that it was literally beyond the grave… 
But you’re right about all that “borrowed” pic’s being the keystone of many threads, this one included, it just wouldn’t be the same without it, and let’s not forget the emotions and feelings some get at just looking at those pic’s and willing to fill in the “lost” info!
Same as your thread, always have a quick look at what is posted, so indeed, long may it go on
Cheers, Patrick
SM8:
Fergie47:
SM8:
What a Beast!Trawl back through this thread and you’ll find a lot more pics and info on these magnificent old wagons .
Am up to page 7 atm, not seen any beasts as yet but have learnt a fair bit about spuds and bollinger
RIP Saviem
Hiya, you’ve got a long way to go then… but it’s more then worth your while
Cheers, Patrick
Can any of you fine french speaking folks give us an idea of whats what in these pics of saviem sm8 4x4 dash layout. Hoping to drive it on tuesday and had no luck in my thread. The user manual pdf is here if any kind soul could glance over it and heads me on the important bits. http://xtrmexport.com/camion_4x4_saviem_trm_4000/saviem_4x4_sm8_trm_4000_guide_de_conduite.pdf
I think 28 and 30 are the axle and diff locks but not sure.
The guy selling said 15 is the parking brake? but hes not that familiar with the truck.
Cheers fellas
Read an interesting article this week about UniPower, and more important the C-series, this being the first “civil” lorrie in the UniPower’s history, and direct follow up of the Scammell S24 series.
They acquired the rights of Scammell after DAF bought Leyland and closed the Scammell division (would Scammell still be amongst us if they haven’t made that decision?)
In 1992 the actual follow up of the S24 was being presented, this being the C-series, avaible as 6x4 or 6x6 with a 465hp ■■■■■■■■
Only three were actually build, the most famous being “Hercules” in the Econofreight fleet.
That one is still in service in the ALE fleet to this day, being stationed in Abu Dhabi, can’t trace the where abouts of the other two…
As for UniPower itself, they too encountered some “turbulent” times, once part of Alvis they then changed hands and did end up at some Singapore firm, whilst the rights went to Tractomas…
