One of the desks in the office tonight had what I recognised from many years in pub management as a small smoke machine, but a second glance spotted a sticker on the side saying sani-truck or something.
Had a quick google now and it seems like you can buy from a number of places ‘antivirus smoke machines’, though I’m generally quite sceptical sounds a bit too much like snake oil. Anyone having their truck ‘deep cleaned’ like this between day and night shifts?
They do the units with one at our spot,plug it into mains,put a cartridge in it,leave unit running with all blowers turned on and it fogs it.
Makes a right mess of windows and dashboard as it leaves a film on that’s sticky.
It’s supposed to be antibacterial.
They offer it at places like ATS now I believe,if your tramping and no one else uses your motor then don’t bother,if someone goes off with symptoms though they’ll probably fog it as a precaution.
A link anybody?
The guy who does Mon and Tues on ‘my motor’ is spot on, we both clean and sanitize the cab for each other at the end of our week.
At least once in last few weeks, it has been sent out with a night man, which I was not over the moon about, …I realise it is there to work, but it’s the fact that nothing was done by the firm to make sure the truck was ‘safe’ for me to use.
This virus (whatever tf it is) , is now rife around my area,.and if I am going to catch it, I would be totally ■■■■■■ off if it was down to my firm’s usual.apathy about driver’s general welfare. 
I’ve decided that next time, the motor will not be going out unless they either sort it, or supply me with something.
Apart from that, this ‘smoke machine’ thing would enhance my in cab disco lights. 
How effective it is would depend on two things wouldn’t it?
Whether the mist “touches” the surfaces where the virus is, and whether any “ingredients” in the mist will kill the virus?
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No need to clean behind the head lining if you aren’t going to be touching behind there, is there?
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A high alcohol wipe, or bleach, over those surfaces you’ll be touching will be enough won’t it?
NHS say wipe over with bleach solution.
gov.uk/government/publicati … e-settings
1,000 ppm solution bleach. Loads of kitchen cleaners are stronger than this.
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Given that a fogging machine can suspend liquids in it then as long as suitable virus killing solution is used no reason why it shouldn’t work.
In theory the fog created will get everywhere and deposit the solution suspended in the fog fluid onto all surfaces.
The reason it leaves a mess is exactly the same as a disco smoke machine it’s most likely glycol based and leaves a horrible film on everything.
Obviously any solution used must be OK with a heat exchanger warming it up to turn it into fog.
We had our office areas fogged by some company for the first time last week, and no one one was allowed in for 1 ans a half hours whilst it lingered and then was aired out. I know some of our depots have been using a small fogging machine on trucks when they come back from a run to sanitise them. But not at all depots it seems.
Although I imagine there will be a lot of unscrupulous new start up companies specialising in such anti bacterial fogging.
If I was looking for such a company I’d be looking at a well established business and not just buying any random fogging machine off the Web with an unknown solution. Ask for COSHH data sheets and study them carefully to ensure they are genuine and not nicked from somewhere else online either.
simcor:
Given that a fogging machine can suspend liquids in it then as long as suitable virus killing solution is used no reason why it shouldn’t work.In theory the fog created will get everywhere and deposit the solution suspended in the fog fluid onto all surfaces.
The reason it leaves a mess is exactly the same as a disco smoke machine it’s most likely glycol based and leaves a horrible film on everything.
Obviously any solution used must be OK with a heat exchanger warming it up to turn it into fog.
We had our office areas fogged by some company for the first time last week, and no one one was allowed in for 1 ans a half hours whilst it lingered and then was aired out. I know some of our depots have been using a small fogging machine on trucks when they come back from a run to sanitise them. But not at all depots it seems.
Although I imagine there will be a lot of unscrupulous new start up companies specialising in such anti bacterial fogging.
If I was looking for such a company I’d be looking at a well established business and not just buying any random fogging machine off the Web with an unknown solution. Ask for COSHH data sheets and study them carefully to ensure they are genuine and not nicked from somewhere else online either.
Is any virus killing ingredient in the fog?
P
Franglais:
simcor:
Given that a fogging machine can suspend liquids in it then as long as suitable virus killing solution is used no reason why it shouldn’t work.In theory the fog created will get everywhere and deposit the solution suspended in the fog fluid onto all surfaces.
The reason it leaves a mess is exactly the same as a disco smoke machine it’s most likely glycol based and leaves a horrible film on everything.
Obviously any solution used must be OK with a heat exchanger warming it up to turn it into fog.
We had our office areas fogged by some company for the first time last week, and no one one was allowed in for 1 ans a half hours whilst it lingered and then was aired out. I know some of our depots have been using a small fogging machine on trucks when they come back from a run to sanitise them. But not at all depots it seems.
Although I imagine there will be a lot of unscrupulous new start up companies specialising in such anti bacterial fogging.
If I was looking for such a company I’d be looking at a well established business and not just buying any random fogging machine off the Web with an unknown solution. Ask for COSHH data sheets and study them carefully to ensure they are genuine and not nicked from somewhere else online either.
Is any virus killing ingredient in the fog?
P
As a PS.
Hand gels need 60% alcohol content.
Any vapour or fog will most likely be water based. Don’t make any Heath Robinson alcohol fogging machines at home.
Franglais:
. Don’t make any Heath Robinson alcohol fogging machines at home.
■■■■ !! 
■■■■ you.
robroy:
Franglais:
. Don’t make any Heath Robinson alcohol fogging machines at home.[zb] !!
■■■■ you. [emoji38] [emoji38]
Well you could. …
But no smoking.
And don’t turn the ignition on!
Franglais:
How effective it is would depend on two things wouldn’t it?
Whether the mist “touches” the surfaces where the virus is, and whether any “ingredients” in the mist will kill the virus?
.
No need to clean behind the head lining if you aren’t going to be touching behind there, is there?
.
A high alcohol wipe, or bleach, over those surfaces you’ll be touching will be enough won’t it?
NHS say wipe over with bleach solution.
gov.uk/government/publicati … e-settings
1,000 ppm solution bleach. Loads of kitchen cleaners are stronger than this.
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I spray everything with a Zafloria mix,it disinfects and shines up good,I’m a night man the day man has been furloughed so there’s only me using our motor at the moment so I protested about it been fogged weekly.
It gets everywhere,you’ve to wipe the hard surfaces down as it sticks to them and the windows need a good clean with glass spray,it’s like looking out of a bathroom window when it’s sunny otherwise.
B&M or Home Bargins do a disinfectant called Fabulosa(99p) get the wild cherry one if you come across it,two caps into a spray bottle diluted with water,it smells beautiful and shines the plastic up better then any polish…
Haven’t we been told that the C19 virus has a greasy coating? This is why alcohol wipes and soap water washes are good at combating it?
If a fog machine leaves a greasy film, how is that likely to be useful against it?
I’ve no particular expertise, but it sounds iffy to me.
Franglais:
Haven’t we been told that the C19 virus has a greasy coating? This is why alcohol wipes and soap water washes are good at combating it?
If a fog machine leaves a greasy film, how is that likely to be useful against it?
I’ve no particular expertise, but it sounds iffy to me.
I’m led to believe the film it leaves is antibacterial,it’s like them bug bombs whatever they are,I’m no fan of them as like I say it leaves the screen and windows a right mess,when it’s running the complete cab is full of the Smokey stuff and it comes out of the vents and night heater,they have different fragrances too.
If I was tramping and the motor was mine all the time I wouldn’t have it done,It’s a tick box exercise for the logistics giants I should imagine,if they really gave a toss they’d do it after every driver.
Just buy these
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Just buy these
TRIPLE QX TQX Aircon Sanitiser 150ml | Euro Car Parts
A virus is not a bacteria.
And 100ml to sanitize an air-con isn’t going to have much effect in the 9(?) cubic metres of air inside a cab, nor the 24(?) sq metres of surfaces.
No harm using that stuff, and it may clean the air-con, but I doubt it’ll do any good on a steering wheel or switches.
robroy:
A link anybody?
The one our lot have is something like this :
On a related note, just (i.e. a few minutes ago) had a call from a manager at our place. Apparently one of the drivers has tested positive for Covid-19, so they’ve checked the records and identified all the drivers who have driven the same lorries he did this past week with a view to getting them tested. A courier will be delivering a Covid testing kit to me tomorrow morning…
Roymondo:
On a related note, just (i.e. a few minutes ago) had a call from a manager at our place. Apparently one of the drivers has tested positive for Covid-19, so they’ve checked the records and identified all the drivers who have driven the same lorries he did this past week with a view to getting them tested. A courier will be delivering a Covid testing kit to me tomorrow morning…
I guess you and they are having to self isolate until you get a clear test result? Or just if you show symptoms?
In principle if you don’t directly hand over with another driver and spend time together does just sharing a workspace count as in contact for test and trace I wonder.
njl:
Roymondo:
On a related note, just (i.e. a few minutes ago) had a call from a manager at our place. Apparently one of the drivers has tested positive for Covid-19, so they’ve checked the records and identified all the drivers who have driven the same lorries he did this past week with a view to getting them tested. A courier will be delivering a Covid testing kit to me tomorrow morning…I guess you and they are having to self isolate until you get a clear test result? Or just if you show symptoms?
In principle if you don’t directly hand over with another driver and spend time together does just sharing a workspace count as in contact for test and trace I wonder.
All done. Test negative. 
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