Has anyone got any ideas on which, if any 
, satnavs work reasonably well in Romania/Bulgaria. I appreciate that I’m not going to get down to street level but the last one I tried just about recognised Sophia but nothing else.
Get a map, I cannot believe that truck drivers feel the need for a Sat-Nav.
Colonel:
Get a map, I cannot believe that truck drivers feel the need for a Sat-Nav.
Well that’s progress for you, is int it a good thing there is more to help us than just maps.
what are you going to do if the
sat -nav gives out,a wise driver
has a good map all ways to hand,
sorry but even modern inventions
such as Sat nav break down ,
Colonel:
Get a map, I cannot believe that truck drivers feel the need for a Sat-Nav.
You do 15 drops you’ve never been to round Italy in a day and a half, then you might feel the need for a satnav. It still amazes me how many people are stuck in the dark ages.
brit pete:
what are you going to do if the
sat -nav gives out,a wise driver
has a good map all ways to hand,
sorry but even modern inventions
such as Sat nav break down ,
Even old inventions such as wheel barrows break down, not a resaon to not use them.
if you was to read my post i never mentioned not useing
a sat nav, I only said, a wise driver has a good map all
ways to hand, and by doing this you may just prevent problems
when and if the sat nav goes ape,
brit pete:
what are you going to do if the
sat -nav gives out,a wise driver
has a good map all ways to hand,
sorry but even modern inventions
such as Sat nav break down ,
I have a Europe map, must be 8 years old and I have never used it since I bought a laptop and added a map to it, but now I have the lap top and a sat nav, so I doubt I will ever need a paper map again.
Before the laptop I had about 100 different maps cluttering up my cab and wasted loads of time getting directions to places that I couldn’t get map coverage of,
When my sat nav gives up, I will always have a good laptop to hand 
, but to be honest even without a back up, I am sure I would be able to find somewhere to get directions or a map if sat nav did give up…
I am NOT saying sat nav,s are naff ( I USE ONE)also not every one has a lap top with them, and so what is wrong with useing a
atlas/map.■■?
When my sat nav gives up, I will always have a good laptop to hand , but to be honest even without a back up, I am sure I would be able to find somewhere to get directions or a map if sat nav did give up…
In the Army we called it “steam gunnery”, you had all your laser range finder and computers, but had to know what to do when they went ■■■■-up. Same when it comes to trucking, use your sat-nav and lap top but have a good map or two just in case.
Before the laptop I had about 100 different maps cluttering up my cab
I reckon the average international driver must have spent in excess of £1000 in the past on maps over time, especially when you think that ones like Milano stradale cost £20, Paris map would cost £25, etc. It all mounted up, so a lap top and sat nav seem cheap by comparison.
I have a TomTom 720 which has the Eastern Europe maps. Bulgaria looks pretty good for mapping, the same as you would find on a UK map with the same device, Romania looks a little less good, the cities look okay, but just A - roads out of the towns by the look of it. If you have a TomTom then you would need to buy either an Eastern Europe map, you would change maps at the end of Germany 
so you would need to have decided were you will cross. Also you can have a central Europe map which covers Eastern and Western Europe, so the whole journey could be shown, I think these maps are both in the £70 region.
If you do not have a Sat Nav device, then some makes do already have a central Europe style map system as standard, some just UK or Western Europe, depends on the make and model, if you buy a TomTom then it might have the Western version on and you will then have to buy another map, so more money.
I was looking at the Navigon make a while ago, looked look on paper, but it was not available here in Poland, so I did not bother, but they seem pretty good units with good mapping and covered both west and east. If you have addresses of the places you need to visit feel free to PM me and I will let you know if they are good on a TomTom or just go down to Currys and input the addresses in the demo units and see if you get any joy.
Scottb-b:
Has anyone got any ideas on which, if any
If thats Sofiya you meant then TomTom is street level and very good. 
drew128:
Romania looks a little less good, the cities look okay, but just A - roads out of the towns by the look of it.
Pretty accurate then, it is a dump after all.
Scotchbaz:
drew128:
Romania looks a little less good, the cities look okay, but just A - roads out of the towns by the look of it.Pretty accurate then, it is a dump after all.
It is probably a bit behind its Eastern cousins granted in infrastructure, but I always have had a good time there, I don’t think because it appears to be less developed to western eyes is a totally bad thing. My favorite touring places are in that neck of the wood, from EST all the way down are fabulous places to do a gig or tour, only Belarus is a bit too earthy for me. I am as happy as a pig in ■■■ to be living in this part of the globe. Scunthorpe would qualify for the use of the word dump, but only in my opinion 
Switchlogic, I have delivered and loaded multiple drops in Italy for many a year and a good Atlante Stradale shows every little village where the Italians have their cottage industries.
You may call it progress, but I call it a lazy attitude, prevalent amongst the modern driver who will never learn anything by following instructions, some of which will send him down the wrong route anyway, especially in Italy.
We must have all been super human to deliver our goods to addresses we have never been to before without these modern day aids.
try something from navngo formaly known as iGO they are a hungarian company so could have fairly good maps of the former eastern block
Colonel:
Switchlogic, I have delivered and loaded multiple drops in Italy for many a year and a good Atlante Stradale shows every little village where the Italians have their cottage industries.You may call it progress, but I call it a lazy attitude, prevalent amongst the modern driver who will never learn anything by following instructions, some of which will send him down the wrong route anyway, especially in Italy.
We must have all been super human to deliver our goods to addresses we have never been to before without these modern day aids.
Thats as well as maybe but a satnav will get the job done faster, no stopping to ask for direction, 9 times out of 10 it takes me to the front door.
It’s not lazyness, the world moves on, as does technology. Undoubtedly more drops are done in a shorter time with the aid of satnav. Thats not lazy, that’s more efficient. Safety is also an issue. How often do you see trucks endlessly driving round looking for place like you used to, not very often.
I imagine you think cruise control is a device for the lazy too. Along with air suspended seats and night heaters. You stay in the past, I’ll quite happily stick here in the present. Although you can’t be that behind, your using the internet! Also, I take it you use satnav if you know they can take you wrong way.
brit pete:
if you was to read my post i never mentioned not useing
a sat nav, I only said, a wise driver has a good map all
ways to hand, and by doing this you may just prevent problems
when and if the sat nav goes ape,
Am in full agreement with you Brit Pete.
Colonel:
Switchlogic, I have delivered and loaded multiple drops in Italy for many a year and a good Atlante Stradale shows every little village where the Italians have their cottage industries.You may call it progress, but I call it a lazy attitude, prevalent amongst the modern driver who will never learn anything by following instructions, some of which will send him down the wrong route anyway, especially in Italy.
We must have all been super human to deliver our goods to addresses we have never been to before without these modern day aids.
we had a lot more time to read your maps, spend in the baghouse or waiting for your pal for 3 hours cos he missed the ferry. Sat Nav is a saving grace for many drivers. I object to the bloke who uses it to get to work, especially when he works in a factory 
If this is what you found, Wheel Nut, then you did a completely different job to me. There were never enough hours in the day for me and attending baghouses is something that no self respecting driver should do.