Silver_Surfer:
Don’t see why you need fixed speed camera alerts unless your blind anyway.
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This. My experience of driving in France is that they always put a bloody big sign up at the side of the road saying there’s a speed camera in 1km and then the camera is on a wide post with yellow stripes on it.
If you get caught by it you really should have your license revoked.
Why should anyone have their UK licence revoked for exceeding the ridiculous 130 kmh French motorway speed limit when even the bonkers French authorities only issue a 90 Euro on the spot fine so long as it’s within 30 kmh over the limit and remembering that fixed camera penalties are unenforceable on foreign reg vehicles anyway.
As I’ve said it’s not the fixed ones that Brits need to be worried about it’s the Flics who are out to get you that you need to worry about ‘especially’ if you’re driving at the type of speeds which the autoroutes were designed for at least before the TGV loving,car hating,socialist zb’s who make up the French government zb’d it all up for everyone.In which case the siezure and possible total loss of the car,massive fines,and even possible jail sentence are as bad,if not worse,as losing your licence would be for doing the same speeds here.
Relax…they won’t check unless you give them a good reason…
the situation is very unlikely to ever result in a UK motorist having the SATNAV analysed by the French police. Do you imagine every policeman knows every operating system of every NAV?
and (taken from Pocket GPS world newsletter regarding the new laws in France)
There has been a good deal of debate in the forums concerning the situation with speed camera data in France so I thought it might be useful to summarise the situation as it affects us and our service. Currently we have moved to make France data ‘opt-in’. It would not satisfy the new legislation if we simply renamed the camera locations to ‘danger zones’ as they would still represent a defined location. No satnavs support POI zones for third party data, as yet. But the legislation requires that police can only inspect your devices after seeking a warrant, or if you are under arrest. So, in reality there is little to worry about. The legislation serves to force manufacturers, who sell in France, to remove the data, and this has already happened. We are looking to offer a solution for danger zone warnings in our CamerAlert app, but, until such time as the manufacturers move to offer support for danger zone POIs, we can only provide you with the ability to opt-in for France data if you so wish.
Personally I’d say that the chances of the plod there stopping a law abiding UK motorist and demanding to examine your satnav, work out if you have speed camera locations on it and then check if it’s disabled/removed for France is highly improbable…as unless you’ve been arrested they need a warrant to do it.
If you’re tear arse-ing along at 50mph over the limit then maybe they would!
Truckulent:
Relax…they won’t check unless you give them a good reason…
the situation is very unlikely to ever result in a UK motorist having the SATNAV analysed by the French police. Do you imagine every policeman knows every operating system of every NAV?
and (taken from Pocket GPS world newsletter regarding the new laws in France)
There has been a good deal of debate in the forums concerning the situation with speed camera data in France so I thought it might be useful to summarise the situation as it affects us and our service. Currently we have moved to make France data ‘opt-in’. It would not satisfy the new legislation if we simply renamed the camera locations to ‘danger zones’ as they would still represent a defined location. No satnavs support POI zones for third party data, as yet. But the legislation requires that police can only inspect your devices after seeking a warrant, or if you are under arrest. So, in reality there is little to worry about. The legislation serves to force manufacturers, who sell in France, to remove the data, and this has already happened. We are looking to offer a solution for danger zone warnings in our CamerAlert app, but, until such time as the manufacturers move to offer support for danger zone POIs, we can only provide you with the ability to opt-in for France data if you so wish.
Personally I’d say that the chances of the plod there stopping a law abiding UK motorist and demanding to examine your satnav, work out if you have speed camera locations on it and then check if it’s disabled/removed for France is highly improbable…as unless you’ve been arrested they need a warrant to do it.
If you’re tear arse-ing along at 50mph over the limit then maybe they would!
If you’re 50 mph over the limit they’d have plenty of time to do it while you’re waiting to get the car back from them.
In my Scania 142 V8 with no speed limiter i would drive at night and go over the speed limits while the Gendarmes were asleep.That engine was singing with pleasure and did not like plodding along.The faster the better to clean and burn off the deposits in the engine.Who decided to have limiters.It was safer to overtake.These idiots with speedo set at 53 or whatever it is are dangerous.
Technically if the PND/satnav happened to be switched off at the time the copper knocked on your window after stopping you, they have no right to switch it on & interrogate it to see if there are camera POIs installed. I for 1 will as I always do, take the risk & install camera POIs onto my Zumo PND and ride though Europe on my bike at the end of the month. But I have no intention of driving over the speed limit
zippo:
I’ve recently invested in a new snooper for work.
I’ve been told that the French pigs can/will fine me if they pull me because it has speed camera alert built in.
And disabling it won’t make any difference.
If this is indeed the case, what about the one that’s part of the dash in my car?
It’s got camera alerts,which I can disable.
It sounds like complete ■■■■■■■■ to me.
Anyone know the answer?
Are these “speed camera detectors” so good they work in other countries where the cameras are likely not on the same inventory or the transmissions (if any) are not compatable with the UK detector kit?
This all sounds like the VOSA £10 fine per turn of the handle to me.
zippo:
I’ve recently invested in a new snooper for work.
I’ve been told that the French pigs can/will fine me if they pull me because it has speed camera alert built in.
And disabling it won’t make any difference.
If this is indeed the case, what about the one that’s part of the dash in my car?
It’s got camera alerts,which I can disable.
It sounds like complete ■■■■■■■■ to me.
Anyone know the answer?
Are these “speed camera detectors” so good they work in other countries where the cameras are likely not on the same inventory or the transmissions (if any) are not compatable with the UK detector kit?
This all sounds like the VOSA £10 fine per turn of the handle to me.
It’s probably not a case of detection method which,like here,seems to be mostly GATSO/TRUVELO type etc etc,but it’s more a case of fixed camera location databases which are just as easy for the sat nav etc service providers to sort as they are here.
However there’s laser and radar detectors in addition to that.It’s probably the latter which the foreign forces are really after not the former because,as I’ve said,there wouldn’t be any point in them worrying about foreign registered vehicles knowing where the fixed camera sites are there anyway because fixed camera evidence wouldn’t be usable against foreign registered vehicles.Unlike the on the spot mobile police operated radar and laser traps.In which case you can bet that their speed trap technology will probably be a step ahead of the detector technology anyway.IE it’s best to go on the idea that they will get you and if you want to drive really fast then Germany ( and possibly to a lesser extent Italy ) is still the place,not France.
Carryfast:
Why should anyone have their UK licence revoked for exceeding the ridiculous 130 kmh French motorway speed limit when even the bonkers French authorities only issue a 90 Euro on the spot fine so long as it’s within 30 kmh over the limit and remembering that fixed camera penalties are unenforceable on foreign reg vehicles anyway.
Dumb as a box of rocks…
If you get caught by a camera that has been signposted by a big naff off sign 1km before it you don’t deserve to be on the road.
Carryfast:
Why should anyone have their UK licence revoked for exceeding the ridiculous 130 kmh French motorway speed limit when even the bonkers French authorities only issue a 90 Euro on the spot fine so long as it’s within 30 kmh over the limit and remembering that fixed camera penalties are unenforceable on foreign reg vehicles anyway.
Dumb as a box of rocks…
If you get caught by a camera that has been signposted by a big naff off sign 1km before it you don’t deserve to be on the road.
But if you’re driving a uk registered vehicle you won’t get caught by a fixed signed camera.So you can just ignore the big naff off signpost anyway.However ‘if’ the stories are right you ‘could’ get nicked for having a fixed camera location detector in a sat nav that can detect the camera that wouldn’'t have been able to nick you.That’s what I call dumb as a box of rocks.Let alone Brits acting like turkeys voting for Christmas by calling for British licences to be removed for French traffic offences.
Around here, a lot of the cameras have the symbol actually on the camera itself - rather than other places where there’s a truvelo box hidden behind a bridge pillar, or something.
