To tie together conspiracy theories and satellites, what do you (bking) think about the Black Knight satellite?
Dipper_Dave:
Alright who had page 4 in the Bking true agenda sweepstake.Even im struggling to find a correlation between GPS and Holocaust conspiracy theories and im an honourary Jew (accidental circumcision, long story, dodgy zipper).
Clearly, if satellites existed, the presence of the concentration camps would have been well documented. Then we wouldn’t need to rely on unreliable testimony from victims and witnesses, as well as physical and documentary evidence…
strange I have been to dachau and seen both the crematoriums - the small one and the newer one which was built as the original couldn’t cope with demand.
if I can be arsed I will post the pictures from it up.
Dipper_Dave:
Alright who had page 4 in the Bking true agenda sweepstake.Even im struggling to find a correlation between GPS and Holocaust conspiracy theories and im an honourary Jew (accidental circumcision, long story, dodgy zipper).
I’m still going for a 15pager. Weekend + bking + alcohol
Get educated BKing.
Bking:
The-Snowman:
Bking:
Like the “smart bombs” the filth used in Iraq which were “GPS” guided?Shame less than 2% came within 500 meters of their target and blew a kid and his mother to bits instead.A bargain at 500,000 dollars a “pop”.
Yes you’re right.
They should have just used the same ones the ISIS suicide bombers use instead.
They can kill hundreds of innocent people and they only cost a couple of hundred dollars.
Not that you ever seem too concerned with those innocent deaths of course. Muppetel_presidente:
Who is ‘the filth’, and can you please link us to the information you base your 2% comment on…?BKing never lets silly things like facts get in the way of a good dig at the very people who afford him the freedom to spout his twaddle.
You need to remember, this is a guy who quite openly claimed last year, on this very forum, that the holocaust was made upAt least I paid the holohoax the decency of going to the “sites” where these “mass murders” were supposed to have happened( Auschwitz,Chelmno,Dachau,Birkenau)and see for myself.
But when I see chimneys for crematoria that according to “eye witnesses” were used to burn"gassed victims" then see it is not connected to said “crematoria” and informed by “museum” staff that the “chimney” was built by the soviets in 1947 you start to wonder.
Or see an “execution wall” were 20,000 "victims"were shot yet not one bullet hole.Propaganda is a wonderful thing and even better if you can make it into a “criminal” offence if you dare to disagree or even Question the “official” version of events.Many people have been imprisoned for pointing out “anomalies” in the story.If all these “facts” are true then would not a true investigation strengthen the “evidence”?
Suggest you do a little research for your self,thats if you can be botherd,instead of just swallowing the crap that those with vested interests pour out through the “media”.
If something is above being investigated or questioned then its got something to hide.
I also read an article stating the holocaust was propaganda issued by the allies and that the starving thousands and deaths of many more was caused by the supply lines being bombed on the orders of Churchill Stallin and Isenhower, how come you’ve forgotten that bit Bking as your txt is nearly word for word as the article, did you realy see it first hand?
ps Sailing at 5 o’clock this evening (21/5/16) with the aid of the saT nav, our position can be tracked by using our AIS (automatic identification system) which sends a signal that is received by the satellites and then re transmitted down to any AIS receiving stations like Marine Traffic. Thought you may like to know that 
I am also sceptical like Bking about some claims made by our governments-( after all the victors get to write the narrative) but as far of the Holocaust goes aside from the government I have what I call my own proof- many years ago when living in London one of the guys in the pub was ex Royal Engineers in WW2 . when he had a drink he would tell us of his wartime experiences.
He tells the story of being among the first to arrive at Belsen camp, and what he saw. every time he told he told it he broke down in tears, one thing he said to me that struck home, until he saw Belsen he never hated the Germans - they were just soldiers doing the same as him, after that he took a hate for the Germans to his grave.
Yes there was propaganda on both sides to demonise the enemy, but there were more than enough ordinary squaddies, not part of any conspiracy , that witnessed the horror of the camps to tell me that the denial of the Holocaust is simply wrong. It happened.
What I dislke about the rewriting of history about the holocaust is it has become a Jewish thing, More disabled, mentally ill ,homosexual, non politicaly conformists were sent to the camps and killed or experimented on than Jewish people
The ■■■■’s were terrible people but history seems to of forgotten the horrors that Stalin subjected his own people to.
Rikki-UK:
What I dislke about the rewriting of history about the holocaust is it has become a Jewish thing, More disabled, mentally ill ,homosexual, non politicaly conformists were sent to the camps and killed or experimented on than Jewish people
Can’t let that one go unchallenged. It is generally accepted that getting on for 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. Not all of them in the death camps, although a figure of around 50% of the total can be reliably ascribed to the seven main “death camps”, with the remainder perishing in other camps or in ad-hoc open air shootings and/or the general deprivation of the ghettos. In comparison, the numbers of disabled and homosexuals killed were quite small - 270,00 and 15,000 respectively. The other big numbers were for Soviet POWs (estimates vary - 2 or 3 million) and Poles (maybe 2 million).
Can’t let that one go unchallenged
and you make a fair point, if we take the extermination camps alone, yes then Jewish were the higher number, take into work camps were people were worked to death including able bodied Jews, with little or no food, shot when they were unable to work any more then in the whole “Holocaust” of seeing some folks as sub human then the Jews were in a minority far more Russians and Poles were shot and gassed when they were no longer worthwhile, viable to work, than Jews. But the whole focus on the atriocities commited focuses on just on sector the Jews, - The Poles, Gypsies the Russians the disabled, the mentally ill, the political opponents don’t get a mention
Now this thread gets my attention. I’m absolutely fascinated by the whole “Holocaust” experience. For all the terrible happenings, it makes for a fascinating subject for all of the wrong reasons. I am following a topic on youtube, where a Swedish member is very much of the"Never happened" party. The argument continues.
I think it’s estimated that about 2/3 rds of the pre-■■■■ era European Jewish population was killed as a result of the Holocaust. Indeed there were other targeted victims, particularly the European Romani population of which 1/4 were killed. I go to the NMA near Alrewas quite regularly; and last year they held a long-running display of sorts, dedicated to educating people about the ‘Porajmos’.
In 50 years time, will people start asserting that the genocide in Bosnia was all smoke and mirrors?
From the opening statement, I knew this was going to be a popcorn thread! 
Tsat nav?
Rikki-UK:
Can’t let that one go unchallenged
and you make a fair point, if we take the extermination camps alone, yes then Jewish were the higher number, take into work camps were people were worked to death including able bodied Jews, with little or no food, shot when they were unable to work any more then in the whole “Holocaust” of seeing some folks as sub human then the Jews were in a minority far more Russians and Poles were shot and gassed when they were no longer worthwhile, viable to work, than Jews. But the whole focus on the atriocities commited focuses on just on sector the Jews, - The Poles, Gypsies the Russians the disabled, the mentally ill, the political opponents don’t get a mention
But you made the specific claim that “More disabled, mentally ill ,homosexual, non politicaly conformists were sent to the camps and killed or experimented on than Jewish people” and that simply is not the case at all. Those groups only accounted for a small minority of those incarcerated and killed in the camps (about 12% of the total). About 40% were Jews, 20% Soviet PoWs and 20% ethnic Poles, Ukranians and Belarussians.
I don’t dislike jewish people or particularly like Germans but I think some of the more extreme holocaust stuff was likely propaganda and exaggeration and it does seem a bit unfair on innocent modern day Germans that their ancestors are portrayed as greater monsters than they perhaps were. I think a lot of people would believe the more memorable stuff like soap and skin lampshades to be true and I think it’s very questionable. That the ■■■■ high command and power structure perpetrated unforgivable crimes against jews, and other minority groups, is without question really and a lot of people in the holocaust denier movement probably are thinly disguised racists.
After the defeat of ■■■■ Germany, claims were circulated that Ilse Koch, the wife of the commandant of Buchenwald concentration camp, had possessed lampshades made of human skin, and that she had tattooed prisoners killed in order to use their skin for this purpose.[2] After her conviction for war crimes, General Lucius D. Clay, the interim military governor of the American Zone in Germany, reduced her sentence to four years’ prison on the grounds “there was no convincing evidence that she had selected ■■■■ concentration camp inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins, or that she possessed any articles made of human skin”.[3]
Jean Edward Smith in his biography, Lucius D. Clay, an American Life, reported the general maintained that the leather lamp shades were really made out of goat skin. The book quotes a statement made by General Clay years later:
There was absolutely no evidence in the trial transcript, other than she was a rather loathsome creature, that would support the death sentence. I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything else I did in Germany. Some reporter had called her the “■■■■■ of Buchenwald”, had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin.[4]
The charges were made once more when she was rearrested, but again were found to be groundless.
Radar19:
The ■■■■’s were terrible people but history seems to of forgotten the horrors that Stalin subjected his own people to.
The simultaneous Soviet invasion of Poland is often left out of the official narrative as well but ask anyone Polish about it and I bet they won’t have forgotten they typically seem to hate the Russians far more than the Germans.
Evil8Beezle:
From the opening statement, I knew this was going to be a popcorn thread!
Thats because some people dare to ask questions
While other just swallow ■■■■.
merc0447:
Dipper_Dave:
Alright who had page 4 in the Bking true agenda sweepstake.Even im struggling to find a correlation between GPS and Holocaust conspiracy theories and im an honourary Jew (accidental circumcision, long story, dodgy zipper).
I’m still going for a 15pager. Weekend + bking + alcohol
If it makes one,just one,question the story that we are told as “fact” then it spreads the idea to question everything we are “told” as fact.
As Orwell said “in a time of universal deceit to speak the truth is an act of rebellion”
We all know that we are being lied to. We have been lied to for years but forums like this and the internet are the greatest opportunity to expose the crap the “powers that be” feed to us.
Rikki-UK:
Can’t let that one go unchallenged
and you make a fair point, if we take the extermination camps alone, yes then Jewish were the higher number, take into work camps were people were worked to death including able bodied Jews, with little or no food, shot when they were unable to work any more then in the whole “Holocaust” of seeing some folks as sub human then the Jews were in a minority far more Russians and Poles were shot and gassed when they were no longer worthwhile, viable to work, than Jews. But the whole focus on the atriocities commited focuses on just on sector the Jews, - The Poles, Gypsies the Russians the disabled, the mentally ill, the political opponents don’t get a mention
Any proof of this “genocide”?
Or just soviet propaganda.