Winseer:
Shouldn’t we ALL be avoiding coming to a stop straddling pedestrian crossings? I try to treat them like the yellow junction boxes… I won’t start to cross, until I can get beyond it in one move.
This was drummed into me when training to drive a bus.
the nodding donkey:
Harry Monk:
You’d have to say that the car driver bears a lot of responsibility for this.I respectfully disagree. The car driver did nothing to cause the truck driver to run over the child. He was parked badly, but that was in no way responsible for the truck driver’s actions.
We all come across badly parked cars at times. We deal with it, without running pedestrians over. If there’s a badly parked car in your way, you go around it safely, or wait until the car is moved.
There is a reason why it is illegal to park on the zig-zag lines of a zebra crossing, and that reason is because it is a dangerous thing to do, not because the parked car may come into contact with a pedestrian using the crossing but because it may contribute to another vehicle doing so.
Harry Monk:
the nodding donkey:
Harry Monk:
You’d have to say that the car driver bears a lot of responsibility for this.I respectfully disagree. The car driver did nothing to cause the truck driver to run over the child. He was parked badly, but that was in no way responsible for the truck driver’s actions.
We all come across badly parked cars at times. We deal with it, without running pedestrians over. If there’s a badly parked car in your way, you go around it safely, or wait until the car is moved.There is a reason why it is illegal to park on the zig-zag lines of a zebra crossing, and that reason is because it is a dangerous thing to do, not because the parked car may come into contact with a pedestrian using the crossing but because it may contribute to another vehicle doing so.
Yes Harry, you do have a valid point.
We can say
“If the car wasn’t there…etc”.
So, yes there is a link.
We can also say
“If the mother was holding his hand…etc”.
Equally a link.
We could say
“If the mother had left home ten minutes earlier, she would have been across the road before the truck arrived!”
Another circumstance that could have altered everything. How far do we go?
But, the truck driver could have, by his own actions avoided this incident. If he had acted differently there would have been no death.
He arrived there when the car was already illegally parked. He got too close to the crossing. He failed to observe everything.
Other people could and should have behaved differetly, that is all true. But at the last, it was the truck moving onto the crossing that killed the lad.
As with most accidents there is a chain of failure, the greatest part is the truck driver’s.
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Socketset:
alamcculloch:
While this was happening , where was the kids father? When I am out even in my car and see a lorry or bus “stuck” I try to do the decent thing and let him go.Well, word has it they don’t live together.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what possible difference can it make if she was happily married,or the local ■■■■■ trumpet classic uk single parent as to whether she was in proper control of her kid? ( which she apparantly wasnt).
either way its not compulsory for daddy to go for the messages with his misses ?
dieseldog999:
Socketset:
alamcculloch:
While this was happening , where was the kids father? When I am out even in my car and see a lorry or bus “stuck” I try to do the decent thing and let him go.Well, word has it they don’t live together.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what possible difference can it make if she was happily married,or the local ■■■■■ trumpet classic uk single parent as to whether she was in proper control of her kid? ( which she apparantly wasnt).
either way its not compulsory for daddy to go for the messages with his misses ?
Dd999 nails it 100%.
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