How refreshing; a rant about drivers sticking to the speed limit. Not seen that before. Well done OP, 10/10 for originality.
Selective observation of the law is nothing new.There was a time when it wasn’t unusual to see trucks tailgating trucks and cars at around 70 mph + in lane 2 of a motorway because they didn’t want to get nicked for using lane 3 to overtake them. 
It is illegal to est & drink behind the wheel as they could if they could be arsed do you for driving without due care & attention.
Having said that you’d have to find a pretty mardy copper who would do someone for drinking or eating a sandwich behind the wheel unless you were swerving all over the shop.
Silver_Surfer:
Having said that you’d have to find a pretty mardy copper who would do someone for drinking or eating a sandwich behind the wheel unless you were swerving all over the shop.
Like PC Stuart Gray of what was known as Strathclyde Police, Michael Mancini prosecuted for blowing his nose
Carryfast:
Selective observation of the law is nothing new.There was a time when it wasn’t unusual to see trucks tailgating trucks and cars at around 70 mph + in lane 2 of a motorway because they didn’t want to get nicked for using lane 3 to overtake them.
I think I might have done that once or twice going back to the pre-limiter days when i was young and carefree. 
Fileep:
Why do drivers that claim to stick to speed limits rigorously because its the law, drink & eat whilst driving on said same S/C road? Why do they justify to themselves that they would like to go quicker, but “I’m a professional driver and won’t risk my licence for anything/anybody” but then do all manner of things whilst driving? Got stuck today behind an empty CEPAC lorry today and it was laughable, 38 mph for about 10 miles, we get on the A1 and he’s straight up to the limiter. What is all that about? Be honest with yourself your tossing the job off to get more hours in! You’d get more respect for the honesty! And I’ve no problem with people doing 40mph because its the law, but if your going to use that as an argument then stick to all laws.That feels better!
For the love of god man , What was he eating that got you wound up.
OTS:
Fileep:
Why do drivers that claim to stick to speed limits rigorously because its the law, drink & eat whilst driving on said same S/C road? Why do they justify to themselves that they would like to go quicker, but “I’m a professional driver and won’t risk my licence for anything/anybody” but then do all manner of things whilst driving? Got stuck today behind an empty CEPAC lorry today and it was laughable, 38 mph for about 10 miles, we get on the A1 and he’s straight up to the limiter. What is all that about? Be honest with yourself your tossing the job off to get more hours in! You’d get more respect for the honesty! And I’ve no problem with people doing 40mph because its the law, but if your going to use that as an argument then stick to all laws.That feels better!
For the love of god man , What was he eating that got you wound up.
When you drive a glass house, you can’t be too careful!
You need a petition of 100,000 before the Government will take action.and raise the limit to 50 mph.
Last time was done about ten signed it.
The 40 limit was for old trucks with no Abs and older braking systems.
Compared to a modern truck that can stop fast.
I just cover my ■■■,don’t give them any ammo,heard too many drivers hung out to dry in the event of accidents,he was on the limiter :! 
, limiter in a 40 mph speed limit etc etc.
I drive at 40 on sc then straight up to the limiter on dc.
Well the limiter is set at 51 so technically breaking the law by 1mph…
If people want to go faster that’s up to them but I don’t take any notice of people sitting on my back corner trying to rush me along.
Everyone will have to stick to the speed limits if this new legislation gets passed;
EU reveals future tachograph changes
15 July 2013
By Karen Crispe
The final proposals to amend tachograph regulation (EC) NO 561/2006 and to repeal (EEC) 3821/85 have now reached the final stage in the legislative process and are ready for the European Commission to release it later this year, writes Tachodisc MD Karen Crispe.
In line with EU policy, these proposals have gone back and forth through various consultation stages, committees, EU Council and commissions over the last couple of years, but we now believe that this final proposal details what will be enforced in 2017-2018. If there are any further changes before the final release, we expect them to only be minor text modifications.
Last November, Tachodisc published a White Paper, titled Change is on the Cards, to detail the proposed changes and this new ‘final’ EU document includes all the key points noted in the paper, with a few surprise additions.
In summary, some of the main points relating to operators in the Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council repealing Council Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85 on recording equipment in road transport and amending Regulation (EC) No 561/2006 of the European Parliament and the Council (“Tachograph”) are:
-An exemption for vehicles of less that 7.5 tons when the vehicle is used for carrying materials, equipment or machinery for the driver’s use in the course of his work, and which are used only within a 100 km radius from the base on the condition that driving the vehicle does not constitute the driver’s main activity. This extends the distance to which this exemption currently applies, and will mainly affect building, glazing and scaffolding companies etc, where driving is not the primary business.
-The Commission should consider the inclusion of weights sensors in heavy goods vehicles, and should assess the potential for weight sensors to contribute to an improved compliance of road transport legislation. This is new and perhaps is aimed at preventing unsafe loads, which are currently one of the biggest offences.
-The use of tachographs connected to a GPS system to record the position of the vehicle at certain points during the daily working period in order to support control officers during controls. This is new wording, which is very vague.
-Remote communication between the tachograph and control authorities for roadside control purposes. As detailed in the White Paper, this will facilitate targeted roadside checks being introduced, but this is only for basic compliance checks not to facilitate downloading of data.
-Field tests of a tachograph that has not yet been type approved to be allowed to be tested in real life situations before it is widely introduced. This is welcome news as it will ensure new tachograph technology is more extensively tested before rolled-out onto new vehicles.
-Member States should ensure that selection of vehicles for inspection is carried out without discrimination on grounds of the nationality of the driver or of the country of registration or entry into service of the commercial vehicle. This forms part of the EU’s commitment to creating a harmonised system across member countries.
-Fitters and workshops play an important part in the security of tachographs. It is therefore appropriate to lay down certain minimum requirements for their approval, reliability and audit. Moreover, Member States should take appropriate measures to ensure that conflicts of interest between workshops and transport undertakings are prevented. Nothing in this Regulation would prevent Member States from ensuring their approval, control and certification, as set out herein, through the procedures laid down in Regulation 765/2008, provided that the minimum criteria in Article 19.2 are fulfilled.
This is a positive move and the Department for Transport has worked hard to maintain the status quo.
For further information, download Tachodisc’s White Paper.
-Commercial Motor’s Compliance and Best Practice Bulletin is sponsored by Tachodisc. To sign up to receive the monthly bulletin, go to the Compliance homepage.
Source: commercialmotor.com
The new Digi Tacho fitted to new vehicles since October 2012 already has GPS fitted.
bluenose:
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More function creep.
bluenose:
Everyone will have to stick to the speed limits if this new legislation gets passed;EU reveals future tachograph changes
15 July 2013
By Karen CrispeThe final proposals to amend tachograph regulation (EC) NO 561/2006 and to repeal (EEC) 3821/85 have now reached the final stage in the legislative process and are ready for the European Commission to release it later this year, writes Tachodisc MD Karen Crispe.
In line with EU policy, these proposals have gone back and forth through various consultation stages, committees, EU Council and commissions over the last couple of years, but we now believe that this final proposal details what will be enforced in 2017-2018. If there are any further changes before the final release, we expect them to only be minor text modifications.
Last November, Tachodisc published a White Paper, titled Change is on the Cards, to detail the proposed changes and this new ‘final’ EU document includes all the key points noted in the paper, with a few surprise additions.
In summary, some of the main points relating to operators in the Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council repealing Council Regulation (EEC) No 3821/85 on recording equipment in road transport and amending Regulation (EC) No 561/2006 of the European Parliament and the Council (“Tachograph”) are:
-An exemption for vehicles of less that 7.5 tons when the vehicle is used for carrying materials, equipment or machinery for the driver’s use in the course of his work, and which are used only within a 100 km radius from the base on the condition that driving the vehicle does not constitute the driver’s main activity. This extends the distance to which this exemption currently applies, and will mainly affect building, glazing and scaffolding companies etc, where driving is not the primary business.
-The Commission should consider the inclusion of weights sensors in heavy goods vehicles, and should assess the potential for weight sensors to contribute to an improved compliance of road transport legislation. This is new and perhaps is aimed at preventing unsafe loads, which are currently one of the biggest offences.-The use of tachographs connected to a GPS system to record the position of the vehicle at certain points during the daily working period in order to support control officers during controls. This is new wording, which is very vague.
-Remote communication between the tachograph and control authorities for roadside control purposes. As detailed in the White Paper, this will facilitate targeted roadside checks being introduced, but this is only for basic compliance checks not to facilitate downloading of data.-Field tests of a tachograph that has not yet been type approved to be allowed to be tested in real life situations before it is widely introduced. This is welcome news as it will ensure new tachograph technology is more extensively tested before rolled-out onto new vehicles.
-Member States should ensure that selection of vehicles for inspection is carried out without discrimination on grounds of the nationality of the driver or of the country of registration or entry into service of the commercial vehicle. This forms part of the EU’s commitment to creating a harmonised system across member countries.
-Fitters and workshops play an important part in the security of tachographs. It is therefore appropriate to lay down certain minimum requirements for their approval, reliability and audit. Moreover, Member States should take appropriate measures to ensure that conflicts of interest between workshops and transport undertakings are prevented. Nothing in this Regulation would prevent Member States from ensuring their approval, control and certification, as set out herein, through the procedures laid down in Regulation 765/2008, provided that the minimum criteria in Article 19.2 are fulfilled.This is a positive move and the Department for Transport has worked hard to maintain the status quo.
For further information, download Tachodisc’s White Paper.
-Commercial Motor’s Compliance and Best Practice Bulletin is sponsored by Tachodisc. To sign up to receive the monthly bulletin, go to the Compliance homepage.Source: commercialmotor.com
The new Digi Tacho fitted to new vehicles since October 2012 already has GPS fitted.
I think that is going way to far, who the hell are they consulting with, obviously not the trade!
Fileep:
Taken from the highway code, just for all you professionals out there!148
Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such asloud music (this may mask other sounds)
trying to read maps
inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
arguing with your passengers or other road users
eating and drinking
smokingI would have thought professionals who stick to 40MPH, because it’s the law would be aware of this?
Does “being followed by an anally retentive jobsworth who wastes bandwidth posting on Trucknet” count as a distraction as well? 
Fileep:
Taken from the highway code, just for all you professionals out there!148
Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such asloud music (this may mask other sounds)
trying to read maps
inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
arguing with your passengers or other road users
eating and drinking
smokingI would have thought professionals who stick to 40MPH, because it’s the law would be aware of this?
I would take it as avoid isn’t telling me to not do something it is advising me not to do something. If you had an accident and wasn’t doing anything other than driving you could get done for drivong without due care and attention.
Silver_Surfer:
It is illegal to est & drink behind the wheel as they could if they could be arsed do you for driving without due care & attention.Having said that you’d have to find a pretty mardy copper who would do someone for drinking or eating a sandwich behind the wheel unless you were swerving all over the shop.
(Not anything against silver surfer just was the best to quote.)
Who really, other than albion, can sit for four and a half hours concentrating 100% on the road? I can’t, I need to fidget now and then otherwise I’d fall asleep. Having a sip of your drink or picking at something is far from driving without due care.
*gets tin hat *
I guess it depends what you’re eating…
A kitkat is probably ok, but a four course dinner with full silver service may be classed as a distraction and therefore frowned upon…
Driving at 40mph can get boring so drivers look for something else to do to pass the time.
Fileep:
Taken from the highway code, just for all you professionals out there!148
Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such asloud music (this may mask other sounds)
trying to read maps
inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
arguing with your passengers or other road users
eating and drinking
smokingI would have thought professionals who stick to 40MPH, because it’s the law would be aware of this?
Am I the only one who read this as a checklist of things I actually do whilst driving without taking my eyes off the road (apart from reading maps that dangerous), I can acclomplish most of them at the same time.
Fileep:
Taken from the highway code, just for all you professionals out there!148
Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such asloud music (this may mask other sounds)
trying to read maps
inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
arguing with your passengers or other road users
eating and drinking
smokingI would have thought professionals who stick to 40MPH, because it’s the law would be aware of this?
But it says avoid doing it. It doesn’t say you can’t…