As a life long day driver with no intention of changing now. If you only work one day a week and they give you a run and run out of time, would dropping the trailer Bob tailing back do a print out and write on it muppets gave me to much to do. Would they accept that if you got a tug ?
How’s dropping the trailer going to help your case■■?
No, that is a case of ■■■■ poor planning, not an excuse.
i wouldn’t think so no the rules are the rules regardless of how many days you work
What difference do you expect dropping the trailer to make? Running bob-tail doesn’t suddenly make you exempt from the drivers’ hours regulations.
I can live in hope , just used to 12hrs max in a day for years no wish to start being a hero now.
No, if you’ve run out of time, that’s it, Bobtail or no Bobtail your still driving the wagon. 15 hours Maximum with 9 hours break over 24 hours.
Technically they will have to send out another driver, who will need to be chauffeured & you will have to swap with him & be chauffeured back to the depot for your car, I believe that your not even allowed to drive the car back to the depot.
But if I was you, I’d night out & get paid for the next day as well.
martinviking:
No, if you’ve run out of time, that’s it, Bobtail or no Bobtail your still driving the wagon. 15 hours Maximum with 9 hours break over 24 hours.
Technically they will have to send out another driver, who will need to be chauffeured & you will have to swap with him & be chauffeured back to the depot for your car, I believe that your not even allowed to drive the car back to the depot.But if I was you, I’d night out & get paid for the next day as well.
You can drive back a non goods vehicle.
Mattwoodtransport:
martinviking:
No, if you’ve run out of time, that’s it, Bobtail or no Bobtail your still driving the wagon. 15 hours Maximum with 9 hours break over 24 hours.
Technically they will have to send out another driver, who will need to be chauffeured & you will have to swap with him & be chauffeured back to the depot for your car, I believe that your not even allowed to drive the car back to the depot.But if I was you, I’d night out & get paid for the next day as well.
You can drive back a non goods vehicle.
No you can not if it belongs to or is hired or leased by the company if you’ve run out of working time as it’s still classed as work
Unless you can freely dispose of your time, i.e. take the vehicle home.
If you run out of duty hours then rest must be started
The whole of the journey from and back to base must be recorded
If you run out of duty hours and then go home by some other means how does the missing part of the journey get recorded 
colinr:
Unless you can freely dispose of your time, i.e. take the vehicle home.
Makes no difference. Time spent travelling back home (or to base) cannot be counted as Rest.
Being driven back doesn’t help, as it’s still working if you are returning to your base to collect your car.
If you have run out of driving time you can drive a non tacho vehicle back to base if you have enough time before requiring a daily rest.
If you have run out of working time and need a daily rest then you need to stop for the night or go directly home.
Odd days:
As a life long day driver
Thought for a minute you had just passed your test. Is it just me, or is anyone else on here surprised by the amount of so called pro-drivers that don’t appear to know the basics concerning their own jobs regulations?
ROG:
If you run out of duty hours and then go home by some other means how does the missing part of the journey get recorded
But your journey ended when you handed over control of the vehicle.
There’s nothing to say your working day must end in the location it started, so there is no reason why your commute home (which is "freely disposable time ) couldn’t be from a different location.
busteredwards:
Odd days:
As a life long day driverThought for a minute you had just passed your test. Is it just me, or is anyone else on here surprised by the amount of so called pro-drivers that don’t appear to know the basics concerning their own jobs regulations?
I think many moons ago you could disconnect the trailer and drive the tractor unit almost as a private car, but I do mean decades ago. As to whether that was the case, perhaps someone could shine a light on that?
The job ‘regulations’ seem to have got over complex in recent times, so it hardly surprising there some confusion out there. 
Nobody has ever shown me how to use a digi tacho properly, explained the working time directive to me, nor lots of other things. We just muddle along as best as we can. Even on the dcpc, a room full of highly experienced drivers couldn’t agree on procedures and regulations.
1 day a week■■? pull the card,and drive her on ffs… 
Glen A9:
ROG:
If you run out of duty hours and then go home by some other means how does the missing part of the journey get recordedBut your journey ended when you handed over control of the vehicle.
There’s nothing to say your working day must end in the location it started, so there is no reason why your commute home (which is "freely disposable time ) couldn’t be from a different location.
The WHOLE of the journey from base and back to base must be officially recorded by the driver so they cannot go 300 miles from base then hand over the lorry to another and then do the 300 miles back to base/home without it being recorded
The driver could finish 100 miles from base - go home 100 miles away on rest - then return during a rest period to where they handed over the lorry and go back to base and have it recorded
I will state again - the WHOLE of the JOURNEY from base and back to base must be recorded - even if it is broken by a few days off on rest
dieseldog999:
1 day a week■■? pull the card,and drive her on ffs…
All very well until DVSA do a VU download and query the kms of driving without a card.
Glen A9:
dieseldog999:
1 day a week■■? pull the card,and drive her on ffs…All very well until DVSA do a VU download and query the kms of driving without a card.
query all they like…assuming your companys not 1 of the Tosco fanny types. im never off the cairnryan ferries…theres miles for mainland,and miles for Ireland…whoevers asking never asks the other side of the water about the 100s of missing miles every week…depends on how good a story you give.being Scottish and living in n.i then I have a better chance than some for fobbing them off.plus anyone id work for wouldn’t keep anything that wasn’t required (legally or otherwise). we don’t all do agency work for ■■■■■■ companies. 
Glen A9:
ROG:
If you run out of duty hours and then go home by some other means how does the missing part of the journey get recordedBut your journey ended when you handed over control of the vehicle.
There’s nothing to say your working day must end in the location it started, so there is no reason why your commute home (which is "freely disposable time ) couldn’t be from a different location.
Ah, but there is. Article 9 of EU Regulation 561/06:
“2. Any time spent travelling to a location to take charge of a
vehicle falling within the scope of this Regulation, or to return
from that location, when the vehicle is neither at the driver’s
home nor at the employer’s operational centre where the
driver is normally based, shall not be counted as a rest or
break unless the driver is on a ferry or train and has access to a
bunk or couchette.”