Carl Usher:
Look, it’s simple: Either say whatever the niche is so someone can tell you yes/no as far as any exemption goes or shut up about it and quit all the crypticness. There is nothing to discuss here; you either want an answer or you don’t. If you do then present the full facts so that you are able to be correctly advised.
+1
Surely you must know what your job is, if not how is anyone else supposed to know 
Why do posters who can not get their head around the rules, or seem unable to discuss these kind of problems with their employer, always struggle with basic English?
this is like a ‘who done it play’’ if a company is running bent they will get found out eventually and get what they deserve ,
I spent 10 years driving a concrete pump which is basically an overweight rigid to building sites up and down the country , quite often doing 3 - 4 hrs driving and 12 hrs on site followed by 3 - 4 hrs drive back to the yard.
The truck was based on a 32t merc chassis but when fully weighted carrying its own water and auxiliary equipment weighed in at 38t.
This machine run on red diesel , was exempt from hgv road tax , and didn’t require a tacho to be inserted or an o license despite running on public roads.
I was stopped quite often by the dvsa and was never held for more than ten minutes whilst a few phone calls were made to check what I was saying was correct before being sent on my way.
As for earnings if I took home less than 850 a week I considered it a poor week.
In the end though the job is more of a lifestyle and I came to the opinion that it will kill you in the end.
kyk:
I have recently gone through few companie sthat all run illegal, so I have question to you - “old superprofessional English Drivors” who run illegal for 90h a week and brag about taking home GOOD MONEYDue to some freakers starting to argue about money and avoiding talking about my question money was removed from original post - Are you happy now■■?
In one of companies that required me to do so I was told by management that it’s perfectly legal to do 16h shift without breaks with 8h driving 1h other work and 7h driving back to yard because apparently vehicle was excempt for tacho, or writing down hours…
All guys in this company run just running - don’t write down any single thing, no mileage no break times no nothing, just start and finish time and hours so they get paid right…
So how legal is this…■■
This is not question for old rats that sit there, but more for someone from gov bodies that browse this forum…
I understnad that if you are exempt for tacho - you have to do paper logs - write down mileage break times etc… and still have to obey some hourly rules…
vehicles in question are vehicles that require hgv licence and cpc to be driven but they have something different mountedon the back of them…
So what exemptions actually apply - are there any exemptions that would make situation describeb by me being legal■■?
Am I missing something and it is legal, or my company is just a bunch of rats and I’m right and it’s illlegal…?
And it’s nowhere near working near depot 50miles etc - they run everywhere.
They also claim that vehicles are exempt of hgv regulations, but in the ame time required me to have hgv licence and valid cpc…
Thanks,
are the vehicles classed as plant? if they don’t run under a operators licence and under domestic regs then no records have to be kept, you need to download GV262-03 have a look and try and work out if they are running under plant exemption.
I drove vactors, sewage vehicles, for five years and never filled a single piece of paper in relating to hours worked or driven. While you can work long hours you rarely get anywhere near using up driving hours, the nature of the job means they are static for long periods while cleaning sewers & they are tachograph exempt anyway.
kyk:
xichrisxi:
I smell BS,if they are running bent why would they pay you 3-4K a month take home.Because their pay package is based on very low basic and ridiculously high overtime rates and it ads up - some most experienced guys in there do make such money…
anyhow - my question was about legality not money that was for other guys who worked there while I was there.
The overtime doesn’t need to be “high” to encourage a driver on minimum wage to perform it - just a very low basic rate, with a reasonable multiplier for the overtime (eg. 1.5x) and more importantly - unlimited amounts of that overtime!
That’s a scenario for “darn sarth”. Oop Narth - a yard might get the same enthusiasm out of it’s drivers with “This yard will close down if we don’t increase productivity”… 
dont matter about the rules, just tell us where the company is so we can all apply… 