I’ve heard that if you are out all week you can run in on your
last shift before weekly rest you can work up to 17 hours.
Any idea if it true and I’ve heard more than once.
It’s a new rule that’s just came out. Sure it’s just drives talking rubbish.
It’s part of the new EU drivers regs, think it only covers International journeys!, If it’s for national work, the pointy shoes will be having trampers doing a 17hr on last card. Every week.
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in Article 12, the following paragraphs are added:
‘Provided that road safety is not thereby jeopardised, in exceptional circumstances, the driver may also depart from Article 6(1) and (2) and Article 8(2) by exceeding the daily and weekly driving time by up to one hour in order to reach the employer’s operational centre or the driver’s place of residence to take a weekly rest period.
Under the same conditions, the driver may exceed the daily and weekly driving time by up to two hours, provided that an uninterrupted break of 30 minutes was taken immediately prior to the additional driving in order to reach the employer’s operational centre or the driver’s place of residence for taking a regular weekly rest period.
The driver shall indicate the reason for such departure manually on the record sheet of the recording equipment, or on a printout from the recording equipment or in the duty roster, at the latest on arrival at the destination or the suitable stopping place.
Any period of extension shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest taken en bloc with any rest period, by the end of the third week following the week in question.’;
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true. 
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not. 
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.
To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?
From the text quoted by Harry, it would appear that it is only an extension to driving time that is permitted, not a reduction in daily Rest (or, as many would call it, an extension of “duty time”).
Franglais:
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?
You just know big logistics blue chip, like stovarts, Turnski, Will be re working routes and jobs, to include those 2 1)2 hours, so they don’t pay a night out…
robroy:
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
No. Also, the rules weren’t complicated enough. 
Great news let’s hope they extend driving time to 12 hours too and eventually allow 17 hours in general.
Punchy Dan:
Great news let’s hope they extend driving time to 12 hours too and eventually allow 17 hours in general.
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Punchy Dan:
Great news let’s hope they extend driving time to 12 hours too and eventually allow 17 hours in general.
Yes, because who wants “a life”. 
Franglais:
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?
Guess what mate? I do actually get that…believe it or not.
My point is the hours are too much as it is.
If the said situation did occur it would be because they are ‘‘planning’’ you to the bitter ■■■■ end,.rather than allowing for unforseens.
Solution?..Plan properly,.allow time for potential ■■■■ ups and unforseens, instead of planning and giving a workload that takes 14 hours 59.9 minutes.(which is already designed as a get out of jail free card anyway , and not a compulsory routine weekly thing as used by many )
OR
Plan for the driver do a 17 HOUR DAY.
Brilliant eh?
Punchy Dan:
Great news let’s hope they extend driving time to 12 hours too and eventually allow 17 hours in general.
I know you like Victorian things,and engineering, but we don’t want to go back to Victorian work ethics, was bad enough when we had frisbees,and wires, Now they want us to do 17hrs legally…
robroy:
Franglais:
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?Guess what mate? I do actually get that…believe it or not.
My point is the hours are too much as it is.
If the said situation did occur it would be because they are ‘‘planning’’ you to the bitter [zb] end,.rather than allowing for unforseens.
Solution?..Plan properly,.allow time for potential [zb] ups and unforseens, instead of planning and giving a workload that takes 14 hours 59.9 minutes.(which is already designed as a get out of jail free card anyway , and not a compulsory routine weekly thing as used by many
OR
Plan for the driver do a 17 HOUR DAY.
Brilliant eh?
But as observed earlier, there is no provision for “duty time” to be extended beyond the current 15 hours maximum.
Ok so I’ve read it wrong.
Bored with it anyway tbh, might resume interest when they cut the hours instead…
What time is kick off on Sunday?
So the flip flops can get home and not take a 45 in the cab brings a whole new meaning to foot down friday
robroy:
Franglais:
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?Guess what mate? I do actually get that…believe it or not.
My point is the hours are too much as it is.
If the said situation did occur it would be because they are ‘‘planning’’ you to the bitter [zb] end,.rather than allowing for unforseens.
Solution?..Plan properly,.allow time for potential [zb] ups and unforseens, instead of planning and giving a workload that takes 14 hours 59.9 minutes.(which is already designed as a get out of jail free card anyway , and not a compulsory routine weekly thing as used by many
OR
Plan for the driver do a 17 HOUR DAY.
Brilliant eh?
Can’t do that robroy because if they plan with plenty of leeway in for any ■■■■ ups then if all goes to plan and the driver only does a 13 hour day and not 15 then he will be in the office or on the phone moaning that he’s not had max hours that week and that he’s losing money.
Thank ■■■■ I’mon domestic. 
Ray
robroy:
Franglais:
robroy:
When I first read the o/p my initial thought was…more drivercrap.
Turns out it’s true.
Ffs is 15 hours not enough already?
They should be cutting the maximum hours, not increasing them, exceptional circumstances, one day or not.To avoid week-ending 60miles from home? After a delayed ferry or accident?
.
Haven’t you ever moaned about the inflexibility of rules in exceptional cases?Guess what mate? I do actually get that…believe it or not.
My point is the hours are too much as it is.
If the said situation did occur it would be because they are ‘‘planning’’ you to the bitter [zb] end,.rather than allowing for unforseens.
Solution?..Plan properly,.allow time for potential [zb] ups and unforseens, instead of planning and giving a workload that takes 14 hours 59.9 minutes.(which is already designed as a get out of jail free card anyway , and not a compulsory routine weekly thing as used by many
OR
Plan for the driver do a 17 HOUR DAY.
Brilliant eh?
If people are prepared to work for these logistics companies who plan you for max hours then they deserve all they get.
There is No such thing as a 17 hour day as several have pointed out already above.
There is no extension allowed to your duty day.
There are merely saying if you are delayed due to unforeseen circumstances you can do 1 or possibly 2 extra hours driving to get home or to base if you are about to start your weekly rest.
So if the M whatever goes to crap as it often does they are giving you an extra driving only allowance to save your weekend plans.
Only on TruckNet could drivers complain about that.
And yes, no more regular weekly rests in the cab plus drivers must go home every 4 weeks and the truck must go home every 8 weeks is another change for the better.
It means that the invasion of EE slave victims will be much reduced and those on Euro work might be able to find a place to stop on Saturdays and Sundays.
New rules for ferry breaks as well which is very welcome in my opinion.
Overall these amendments are a great step in the right direction although we are not yet sure if EU rules will apply domestically for very long after Jan 1st.