Yeah I got that too.
Winseer:
It is often not possible for full time RM staff to pick up the longer OT shifts, such as the ones over 12 hours in length.
This means that covering on agency - gets you access to the duties that actually belong to a senior driver - should their duty have built-in scheduled attendence on it, making it up to 12+ hours.I had no problems picking up the longer night duties during Jan-March last year for instance, but this was out of Rochester running INTO places like NDC, Croydon, Heathrow, and of course the best of all - Coventry.
Coventry duties - were by far my favourite whilst working @ RM A four night spread doing these - netted nearly a grand a week top line… That’s 4x12 hour shifts - not five! The duty might be 13.5hrs with 1.5hours deducted for breaks, net 12 hours paid @ £19.48ph… £935.04 I challenge any driver here to beat that for a four day week!
RM won’t let you work more than net 48 hours in a week however, - with the upside being that there’s more to go around if there are say, 8 such duties (which there were at least…) you can make 10 blocks of 4 shift weeks out of what was once 8 duties @ 5 shifts - before the 48 hour limits are applied… An extra two duties for the lucky lucky people who got to pick up one of these goldmines over christmas…
Only these “extra two” were the dross though - as they were very tight for running times compared to the other main six… The main six duties had you up there 3 hours to fit a 90 minute break in - perhaps in new kit, or at least a tractor with a night heater and bunk in.
How are you legally doing 4x 13.5 hr shifts in a week?
^^^^ lots of people do that and can do it legally.
DCPCFML:
Winseer:
It is often not possible for full time RM staff to pick up the longer OT shifts, such as the ones over 12 hours in length.
This means that covering on agency - gets you access to the duties that actually belong to a senior driver - should their duty have built-in scheduled attendence on it, making it up to 12+ hours.I had no problems picking up the longer night duties during Jan-March last year for instance, but this was out of Rochester running INTO places like NDC, Croydon, Heathrow, and of course the best of all - Coventry.
Coventry duties - were by far my favourite whilst working @ RM A four night spread doing these - netted nearly a grand a week top line… That’s 4x12 hour shifts - not five! The duty might be 13.5hrs with 1.5hours deducted for breaks, net 12 hours paid @ £19.48ph… £935.04 I challenge any driver here to beat that for a four day week!
RM won’t let you work more than net 48 hours in a week however, - with the upside being that there’s more to go around if there are say, 8 such duties (which there were at least…) you can make 10 blocks of 4 shift weeks out of what was once 8 duties @ 5 shifts - before the 48 hour limits are applied… An extra two duties for the lucky lucky people who got to pick up one of these goldmines over christmas…
Only these “extra two” were the dross though - as they were very tight for running times compared to the other main six… The main six duties had you up there 3 hours to fit a 90 minute break in - perhaps in new kit, or at least a tractor with a night heater and bunk in.How are you legally doing 4x 13.5 hr shifts in a week?
4 off 15hr shifts in a week is possible. As an example:
Work- Mon and Tues 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Off Weds, so a reduced weekly rest resets the clock on reduced daily rest. (Not on 10hr drives though)
Work- Thu and Friday 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Full rest of 55hrs until next Mon start.
OR a 3hr break during the shift would mean that the reduced daily rest counts as a full one.
Franglais:
DCPCFML:
Winseer:
It is often not possible for full time RM staff to pick up the longer OT shifts, such as the ones over 12 hours in length.
This means that covering on agency - gets you access to the duties that actually belong to a senior driver - should their duty have built-in scheduled attendence on it, making it up to 12+ hours.I had no problems picking up the longer night duties during Jan-March last year for instance, but this was out of Rochester running INTO places like NDC, Croydon, Heathrow, and of course the best of all - Coventry.
Coventry duties - were by far my favourite whilst working @ RM A four night spread doing these - netted nearly a grand a week top line… That’s 4x12 hour shifts - not five! The duty might be 13.5hrs with 1.5hours deducted for breaks, net 12 hours paid @ £19.48ph… £935.04 I challenge any driver here to beat that for a four day week!
RM won’t let you work more than net 48 hours in a week however, - with the upside being that there’s more to go around if there are say, 8 such duties (which there were at least…) you can make 10 blocks of 4 shift weeks out of what was once 8 duties @ 5 shifts - before the 48 hour limits are applied… An extra two duties for the lucky lucky people who got to pick up one of these goldmines over christmas…
Only these “extra two” were the dross though - as they were very tight for running times compared to the other main six… The main six duties had you up there 3 hours to fit a 90 minute break in - perhaps in new kit, or at least a tractor with a night heater and bunk in.How are you legally doing 4x 13.5 hr shifts in a week?
4 off 15hr shifts in a week is possible. As an example:
Work- Mon and Tues 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Off Weds, so a reduced weekly rest resets the clock on reduced daily rest. (Not on 10hr drives though)
Work- Thu and Friday 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Full rest of 55hrs until next Mon start.OR a 3hr break during the shift would mean that the reduced daily rest counts as a full one.
Fair enough. Perhaps I should have rephrased as a WORKING week. Having a weekly rest in the middle is 2 weeks in your example, not 1. And he’s unlikely to have a continuous 3 hour break on Royal Mail work.
DCPCFML:
Franglais:
DCPCFML:
Winseer:
It is often not possible for full time RM staff to pick up the longer OT shifts, such as the ones over 12 hours in length.
This means that covering on agency - gets you access to the duties that actually belong to a senior driver - should their duty have built-in scheduled attendence on it, making it up to 12+ hours.I had no problems picking up the longer night duties during Jan-March last year for instance, but this was out of Rochester running INTO places like NDC, Croydon, Heathrow, and of course the best of all - Coventry.
Coventry duties - were by far my favourite whilst working @ RM A four night spread doing these - netted nearly a grand a week top line… That’s 4x12 hour shifts - not five! The duty might be 13.5hrs with 1.5hours deducted for breaks, net 12 hours paid @ £19.48ph… £935.04 I challenge any driver here to beat that for a four day week!
RM won’t let you work more than net 48 hours in a week however, - with the upside being that there’s more to go around if there are say, 8 such duties (which there were at least…) you can make 10 blocks of 4 shift weeks out of what was once 8 duties @ 5 shifts - before the 48 hour limits are applied… An extra two duties for the lucky lucky people who got to pick up one of these goldmines over christmas…
Only these “extra two” were the dross though - as they were very tight for running times compared to the other main six… The main six duties had you up there 3 hours to fit a 90 minute break in - perhaps in new kit, or at least a tractor with a night heater and bunk in.How are you legally doing 4x 13.5 hr shifts in a week?
4 off 15hr shifts in a week is possible. As an example:
Work- Mon and Tues 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Off Weds, so a reduced weekly rest resets the clock on reduced daily rest. (Not on 10hr drives though)
Work- Thu and Friday 06hr00 to 21hr00.
Full rest of 55hrs until next Mon start.OR a 3hr break during the shift would mean that the reduced daily rest counts as a full one.
Fair enough. Perhaps I should have rephrased as a WORKING week. Having a weekly rest in the middle is 2 weeks in your example, not 1. And he’s unlikely to have a continuous 3 hour break on Royal Mail work.
At the end of his fourth shift he will be going onto a weekly rest so perfectly legal as in theory it’s only 3 reductions
robthedog:
At the end of his fourth shift he will be going onto a weekly rest so perfectly legal as in theory it’s only 3 reductions
Nope, still needs to have 11hrs rest in the 24hr period since the start of his shift, to work a 15 hrs shift would automatically be classed as a reduction whether starting his weekly rest or not
scottie0011:
robthedog:
At the end of his fourth shift he will be going onto a weekly rest so perfectly legal as in theory it’s only 3 reductionsNope, still needs to have 11hrs rest in the 24hr period since the start of his shift, to work a 15 hrs shift would automatically be classed as a reduction whether starting his weekly rest or not
Yes, saved me the typing!