So this country pretends it wants to reduce congestion, pollution and emissions, but insists on using roundabouts on main through routes.
What happens when a major through route like say the A1 or A43 gets a little busy or worse still, peak periods ? Yep, not a lot, everyone crawls, if youāre lucky. Roundabouts cause congestion on major roads especially. What we need are intersections, where you get in a lane and stay on it unhindered to your disired route. We need intersections at Motorway junctions too, instead of roundabouts.
Hi Daf,
bet I can think of something worse than roundabouts!
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Roundabouts with traffic lights on them! So you canāt even move if you have a red even if there is nothing coming!
JayHoe:
Hi Daf,bet I can think of something worse than roundabouts!
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Roundabouts with traffic lights on them! So you canāt even move if you have a red even if there is nothing coming!
Bloody annoying and totally pointless at 2 am, when you are the only thing on the road for miles!!!.
Well folks on the A43 / A6003 roundabout at Kettering is going to be changed into a Cheeseburger Roundabout or is that Hamburger. From what Iāve heard the A43 will go straight through the middle of the roundabout & the A6003 traffic will still use it as a roundabout with traffic lights.
jammymutt:
JayHoe:
Hi Daf,bet I can think of something worse than roundabouts!
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Roundabouts with traffic lights on them! So you canāt even move if you have a red even if there is nothing coming!
Bloody annoying and totally pointless at 2 am, when you are the only thing on the road for miles!!!.
Agree, and they always change to red when you are aproaching
Itās when itās a busy roundabout with lights & badly worn directions marked on lanes coverd by traffic that it gets really fun.
Because you can bet if you know which lane you need to be in no one else does & its because they cannot read the badly worn road markings, which are further obscured by traffic.
Common sense who needs it.
daxi:
Itās when itās a busy roundabout with lights & badly worn directions marked on lanes coverd by traffic that it gets really fun.
Because you can bet if you know which lane you need to be in no one else does & its because they cannot read the badly worn road markings, which are further obscured by traffic.
Common sense who needs it.
Road marking on roundabouts are useless, most drivers are unaware of them or ignore them because they can get in front of you by chopping lanes.
It annoys me when they plant the ā ā ā ā ā ā ā things up and you canāt see a dickybird. Then they wonder why theirās so many accidents. Hellooooooooo .
therās a lovely one near asda in tipton,3am no one about yet the lights stick to the same pattern as daytime, you go green, next red and so on,till you have worked your way round all four sets in about 5-10 mins. rush hours are the worst takes about 2 days 
just canāt wait for the set being put in on the BRISTOL ring road,near empire park 
Should check out the lane discipline on Gildersome roundabout (M62 J27). 3 lanes on to the roundabouts on both sides of the motorway but only 2 lanes round the roundabouts. How does that one work then? Which lane of the roundabout do you go in if you approach it in the middle lane ? 
JayHoe:
Roundabouts with traffic lights on them! So you canāt even move if you have a red even if there is nothing coming!
What exactly is the point of a roundabout if there are traffic lights on themā ā ? Isnāt that a bit counterproductive?
The other thing about lights is the daft timings they are set up on. In the states, If you are going at the ācorrectā speed, the lights are each changing to green as you approacj them. I have come across plenty of examples here where just as you get green, the lights ahead just change to red, so guaranteeing you have to stop again and again.
I think the system in Hungary is great, after a certain time at night, the lights just flash green which basically means that they are no longer controlling the traffic, so use common sense!
JayHoe:
I think the system in Hungary is great, after a certain time at night, the lights just flash green which basically means that they are no longer controlling the traffic, so use common sense!
With British skateboard drivers 
OMG 
Kate Hasler:
JayHoe:
Roundabouts with traffic lights on them! So you canāt even move if you have a red even if there is nothing coming!What exactly is the point of a roundabout if there are traffic lights on themā ā ? Isnāt that a bit counterproductive?
There is just such a traffic circle in the middle of Avon, NY.
If roundabouts are used properly they ease congestion because the whole idea is that traffic slows without stopping unless absoloutely needed 
Trouble is that a lot of folk donāt know how to use them, there are not many in this part of the world and people here have no idea how to use them, even stopping half way round because a vehicle id comming up a side road 
the problem with uk roundabouts is that they are just too big and vehicles come round without slowing down, then seem surprised when there is a 44 tonne truck pulling across in front of them.
The rule says, āGive way to traffic on your immediate rightā not some pillock in a Subaru Impreza, 1/4 mile away heading towards a roundabout.
This week I have come across, a car stopped to give way on the A34 / M40 junction westbound
2 TNT trucks driving through the red lights at Coleshill A446 and M42 causing havoc and someone going the wrong way round one in Poole
DAFMAD:
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What happens when a major through route like say the A1 or A43 gets a little busy or worse still, peak periods ? Yep, not a lot, everyone crawls, if youāre lucky. Roundabouts cause congestion on major roads especially. What we need are intersections, where you get in a lane and stay on it unhindered to your disired route. We need intersections at Motorway junctions too, instead of roundabouts.
so it wasn`t you that was brokedown on the approach to stamford roundabout on the A1on monday teatime causing a massive tailback
Give way to traffic on your immediate right
IIRC ā¦ the rules say to give way to the right, and also to vehicles already on the roundabout (not nesc on the right) ā¦ I interprete this to mean personally that if I enter the roundabout before someone approaching it from the right hand side I have right of way, even if they have to slow down to allow me to get fully out
Rikki-UK:
Give way to traffic on your immediate right
IIRC ā¦ the rules say to give way to the right, and also to vehicles already on the roundabout (not nesc on the right) ā¦ I interprete this to mean personally that if I enter the roundabout before someone approaching it from the right hand side I have right of way, even if they have to slow down to allow me to get fully out
When youāre in an artic you can pretty much do what you want at roundabouts Iāve found . As long as you donāt mind the odd beep and some fist waving out of the other vehicles windowā¦
Rikki-UK:
Give way to traffic on your immediate right
IIRC ā¦ the rules say to give way to the right, and also to vehicles already on the roundabout (not nesc on the right) ā¦ I interprete this to mean personally that if I enter the roundabout before someone approaching it from the right hand side I have right of way, even if they have to slow down to allow me to get fully out
Thankfully thatās how my last examiner saw itā¦
On more than one occasion I pulled onto the roundabout as a vehicle was approaching, but had not entered, the roundabout. This is how it should be as I see it, itās my right of way if I get on it first and youāll have to go around meā¦ As one artic did, and he was flying !!
Not all examiners do see it that way though, as I found to my cost, but Iāll stick to my guns regardless. Particularly on large roundaboutsā¦