harry_gill:
hiya,
Fred can you remember the ropework that I used to put on the back it resembled
a Mercedes badge when pulled tight I can’t remember how I did it now, but I don’t
want anything to practice on, hope you and the good lady had a good Christmas
and good and prosperous New Year to follow, All the Best Mate.
thanks harry, long retired.
If the truth was Known how many of us from them there days wanted it to pour
downso it would shrink the ropes (Proper-Ropes) nothe girly plastik ones you melt the
end to stop it from fraying “eh”.WHAT WHAT you couldn’t splice a dogs ■■■■,
GUESTY44.
Ups sorry they use them there things they call straps now Harry is that it,
GUESTY44
Very nice mr bewick, is there a reason for the landing legs being like that?
The shot dosen’t do the trailer justice ! that particular York SL34 was built with flat landing feet as were all the trailers I ordered new and those that did come into the fleet with wheels,we changed as they buckled and resembled a 50 pence piece !All the many TASK trailers we had built in ■■■■■■■■■■■ all had the round flat feet ( elephants feet) fitted and we never had any problems with sinking legs on the various trailer parks we used.I could never understand the use of those stupid wheels on trailer legs,comments welcome! Cheers Bewick.
Absolutely right, Dennis. I used to hate the wheeled variety except when dropping on solid concrete. The trick was to carry a few 18" lengths of 3" X 3" timber so you could place one each side between the individual wheels, giving a quite decent load bearing area.
Very nice mr bewick, is there a reason for the landing legs being like that?
The shot dosen’t do the trailer justice ! that particular York SL34 was built with flat landing feet as were all the trailers I ordered new and those that did come into the fleet with wheels,we changed as they buckled and resembled a 50 pence piece !All the many TASK trailers we had built in ■■■■■■■■■■■ all had the round flat feet ( elephants feet) fitted and we never had any problems with sinking legs on the various trailer parks we used.I could never understand the use of those stupid wheels on trailer legs,comments welcome! Cheers Bewick.
Yes you’re right mr bewick, I’ve had trouble with them especially on good ground and some nice person hasn’t put trailer brake on, pre air trailer brake of course. The only reason I asked I did similar with a skelly trailer I had and before I could put new effer lumps feet on it got dropped at a customers for loading, gee whizz within an hour they’d taken photos done a risk assessment and f knows what, and the driver had done like rof said and put timber under as well. Don’t really know what the idea was behind them but as you say they all ended up like ten bob bits, bit better then though but look she height
Well, I can’t say I miss roping and sheeting. I was never brilliant at it but I could secure a load and did so many, many times. What I do regret is the whole ‘de-mystification’ of transport driving which has led to a sense of wholesale de-skilling among older drivers. If you want monkeys give 'em peanuts and make the job child’s play. I’m in my sixties and quite like not having to strip tilts and rope-and-sheet trailers; but I have to go for long walks at the weekend to ensure proper exercise. Tilts and flats gave drivers the necessary exercise they needed between long spells at the wheel. It’s the same with gearboxes: I am damned sure that I can do a better job with a 9-speed constant-mesh Fuller 'box than with an automated computer-box - damned sure but maybe wrong, economically, but and I know that I am safer when I am in full control of that gearbox. We used to be thinking, initiative-taking, innovative, multi-skilled drivers just thirty years ago: now, drivers are automotatons - steering-wheel attendants. We wanted comfortable cabs and better working conditions and we got them; but we don’t want oblivion! Driving a modern truck is like sitting in a simulator. Give me that ERF NGC 420 ‘European’ with its ■■■■■■■ NTC 335 and 9-speed Fuller any-day, and I’ll drive to the ends of the earth. Yeah! Robert
robert1952:
Well, I can’t say I miss roping and sheeting. I was never brilliant at it but I could secure a load and did so many, many times. What I do regret is the whole ‘de-mystification’ of transport driving which has led to a sense of wholesale de-skilling among older drivers. If you want monkeys give 'em peanuts and make the job child’s play. I’m in my sixties and quite like not having to strip tilts and rope-and-sheet trailers; but I have to go for long walks at the weekend to ensure proper exercise. Tilts and flats gave drivers the necessary exercise they needed between long spells at the wheel. It’s the same with gearboxes: I am damned sure that I can do a better job with a 9-speed constant-mesh Fuller 'box than with an automated computer-box - damned sure but maybe wrong, economically, but and I know that I am safer when I am in full control of that gearbox. We used to be thinking, initiative-taking, innovative, multi-skilled drivers just thirty years ago: now, drivers are automotatons - steering-wheel attendants. We wanted comfortable cabs and better working conditions and we got them; but we don’t want oblivion! Driving a modern truck is like sitting in a simulator. Give me that ERF NGC 420 ‘European’ with its ■■■■■■■ NTC 335 and 9-speed Fuller any-day, and I’ll drive to the ends of the earth. Yeah! Robert 0
Using Flats didnt always need sheets, but looking at a pile of steel on the floor & working out how you were going to load it also took a bit of skill (not that Im blowing my own trumpet)
Here`s another/ a load of Yams out of Teesport for Walthamstow
robert1952:
Well, I can’t say I miss roping and sheeting. I was never brilliant at it but I could secure a load and did so many, many times. What I do regret is the whole ‘de-mystification’ of transport driving which has led to a sense of wholesale de-skilling among older drivers. If you want monkeys give 'em peanuts and make the job child’s play. I’m in my sixties and quite like not having to strip tilts and rope-and-sheet trailers; but I have to go for long walks at the weekend to ensure proper exercise. Tilts and flats gave drivers the necessary exercise they needed between long spells at the wheel. It’s the same with gearboxes: I am damned sure that I can do a better job with a 9-speed constant-mesh Fuller 'box than with an automated computer-box - damned sure but maybe wrong, economically, but and I know that I am safer when I am in full control of that gearbox. We used to be thinking, initiative-taking, innovative, multi-skilled drivers just thirty years ago: now, drivers are automotatons - steering-wheel attendants. We wanted comfortable cabs and better working conditions and we got them; but we don’t want oblivion! Driving a modern truck is like sitting in a simulator. Give me that ERF NGC 420 ‘European’ with its ■■■■■■■ NTC 335 and 9-speed Fuller any-day, and I’ll drive to the ends of the earth. Yeah! Robert 0
Shouldn’t the front sheet overlap the rear sheet ?
robert1952:
Well, I can’t say I miss roping and sheeting. I was never brilliant at it but I could secure a load and did so many, many times. What I do regret is the whole ‘de-mystification’ of transport driving which has led to a sense of wholesale de-skilling among older drivers. If you want monkeys give 'em peanuts and make the job child’s play. I’m in my sixties and quite like not having to strip tilts and rope-and-sheet trailers; but I have to go for long walks at the weekend to ensure proper exercise. Tilts and flats gave drivers the necessary exercise they needed between long spells at the wheel. It’s the same with gearboxes: I am damned sure that I can do a better job with a 9-speed constant-mesh Fuller 'box than with an automated computer-box - damned sure but maybe wrong, economically, but and I know that I am safer when I am in full control of that gearbox. We used to be thinking, initiative-taking, innovative, multi-skilled drivers just thirty years ago: now, drivers are automotatons - steering-wheel attendants. We wanted comfortable cabs and better working conditions and we got them; but we don’t want oblivion! Driving a modern truck is like sitting in a simulator. Give me that ERF NGC 420 ‘European’ with its ■■■■■■■ NTC 335 and 9-speed Fuller any-day, and I’ll drive to the ends of the earth. Yeah! Robert 0
Shouldn’t the front sheet overlap the rear sheet ?
Boyze:
Before i went in the office and started pushing a compoooter about i still wonder how some of the new boys could cope with proper loading… I dont mean that in a nasty way but there are loads of blokes who come into my yard looking for work until they realise that we still do proper general and heavy haulage work which needs a good knowledge of how to keep it on the trailer. I spend a good amount of time teaching blokes to rope and sheet and am convinced that it should be something that every driver should know how to do. With out making me out to being supertrucker i was just wondering weather everyone else feels the days of stripping tilts and putting two canvas and the fly should be bought back… In all fairness it was only the brits who did it properly and all of the europeans wher [zb]!!!
In this policical correct world i know its all wrong now but mate i do miss the blokes who know what there doing!!!
A few pictures of before i came of the road.
Really if you can rope and sheet you are a better driver than someone who cant ■■ ( yes I can and was shown by my Dad when I was a kid ) , sick of hearing this time and time again ,reason most don’t do it now is because of technology has moved on i.e. curtainsiders and not a great deal of requirements for flats due to not as much heavy industry these days as in machinery movements etc. but it does not make you a better driver because you CAN rope and sheet , if most drivers coming in to this game had too rope and sheet they would do , this always reminds me of old time Army veterans saying in the recent past " hope these young uns don’t have to fight any wars like we did as they would run a mile " , looks like they were proved wrong as well seeing as how many young men have been just as brave as any other ex soldiers , one last thing I am neither young or an ex soldier but please all this rope and sheeters are the elite has rock all to do with how good a driver you are.
Volscadaf,
I can see where you’re coming from but I have to add a bit of a rider-
If a driver was of the type to do a bit of roping and sheeting PROPERLY, it was quite a good indication that he would be of the mindset to do the rest of the job properly, too.
Just a personal observation, of course.
greek:
Using Flats didnt always need sheets, but looking at a pile of steel on the floor & working out how you were going to load it also took a bit of skill (not that Im blowing my own trumpet)
Here`s another/ a load of Yams out of Teesport for Walthamstow
i picked up a load of yams outta teesport when i was on for sammy jones.they where for brixton market early morning delivery lol,i got there just after eleven am.terrible load. loads of box.s had got wet pre sheeting and they were dropping off as i sheeted them
Lawrence Dunbar:
0Long before fly sheets were invented Eh, This is one of my late Great Uncles wagons Isaac Smiles, Regards Larry.
I just hope it wasn’t you that sheeted and roped that 8 wheeler Larry Cheers Dennis.
If you look a bit closer, Larry, you will see that there is indeed a fly sheet on that load. It’s a canvas one, of course, they hadn’t started making plastic ones in those days.
Not that Bewick can remember that far back, being just a young whippersnapper!
Cheers Dennis.