Ha ,at least carry fast and me,we need a little bit time in grasping things. maybe make a dolly to the song [OH .DO THE OKEY -KOKEY] put you right hand up and turn around twist, with the left… or go to the back of the room, and stay in the corner…next.
I think folding and rolling up a sheet on your own and getting it onto your shoulder in one swift move is just as much a skill as the rest but again it must have almost disappeared from use which is a shame as these things are hardly recorded for posterity and heritage reasons, rather like older craftsmanship techniques in Blacksmithing and Woodworking etc they can become lost in time. Franky.
A l/h-hitch when pulled turns the loop inward onto the sheet, R/h-hitch turns the loop outward when pulled, so its
easy to crack the dollie on right handed hitches.
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No rope was harmed in any way in the reply to this thread.
Thanks Kevmac47 Jarrow steel mill early 70,s
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MIKE P:
Great picture dennis Proper job thatWhat year ■■?
Cheers MIke
Bewick:
windrush:
Well I haven’t a clue how to tie a dolly, never needed to learn as I had body sides to keep stuff safe and secure, and even nowadays I still can’t fasten a tie properly which is why I never wear one.!Tried many a time, I just can’t do it though. Knots and my hands are totally alien objects it appears, and now I have arthritic fingures I aint going to try and learn now.
However I do admire those who can do it all easily.
Pete.
Late '68 Mike, and within a few hours I would have been passing through Tamworth on my way to London , it was a load of Libbys Evap milk probably for Sainsbury’s warehouse in Stamford St. which only had short loading bays so it was a regular job for my D1000, Stamford St closed eventually and they opened a new one in Charlton. Cheers Dennis.
harry_gill:
Hiya,
I did a spell doing Lancashire flats from Preston to anywhere in the UK, when lifted
onto your trailer they always had to be re-sheeted and re-roped they were always
like a sack of [zb] ■■■■■■■ any old way usually brand new hemp rope all one length
and fastened with what I can only describe as an Irish dolly impossible to undo and
a “rope spanner” was always a must, although the return flat was always properly
“done” for it’s return I did always make sure they had plenty of knots to contend
with, well they do say an eye for an eye.
thanks harry, long retired
Hiya “H” Happy New Year to you and yours ! I recall that when RoRo started in earnest the Paddys built tandem vans using 40ft ISO containers so they just bunged everything into them, you know! heavy stuff on top of light stuff they didn’t give a ■■■■, but nothing fell off eh! unless they rolled the whole outfit over ! Cheers Dennis.
That’s about the same time my father would be going to London in his V8 ford Dennis taking Ashpalt blocks and returning with tinned food with ply sheets on then other stuff such as rolls of roofing felt stacked on top .
Funny, I’m one of those awkward sods that ties them left handed, and no one appears to have had any trouble undoing them, just pull a bit of the rope slack to get it off the hook, then pull it back through and presto, the knot disappears. Right handed or left handed doesn’t appear to have made any difference. Perhaps it becomes more of an issue when roping artic loads, which may have to be hauled much tighter than our little 7.5t loads… Never had any experience of roping artics, so no clue there.
8LXBV8BRIAN:
A l/h-hitch when pulled turns the loop inward onto the sheet, R/h-hitch turns the loop outward when pulled, so its
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I remember it well Brian, your education was a priority to all the drivers if I recall correctly. I know our great friend George Fearns (r.i.p.) did his bit teaching you HIS kak handed dollies,
but you got the message eventually. Ps. I think you would be about 13 then, am I correct? Regards Kev.
Hiya,
I must be a bit of a saddo, today whilst adding a bit more junk to my already
laden garden shed I spotted a bit of rope, the type used for pulling cables
and things through underground ducts, so I would have a go at tying a dolly
just to see if I could still “do one” no problem and when loosened off from it’s
anchor “the door bottom” it pulled out straight away just as I remember, so I
would have a go at doing a left hander “this thread has something to answer
for” slowly and surely I managed to do one and again it worked being again
anchored to the bottom of the door, on release and using the normal way
of “shaking and a little tug” and “ole” a perfectly straight length of rope, so I
reckon if a left hander is a mirror image of a right hander and don’t forget I
have just proven there’s no difference in the undoing process, I just can’t
possibly see what the problem if any there is by being keggy handed.
thanks harry, long retired.
Punchy Dan:
That’s about the same time my father would be going to London in his V8 ford Dennis taking Ashpalt blocks and returning with tinned food with ply sheets on then other stuff such as rolls of roofing felt stacked on top .
Hiya Dan, did your Dads motor have a V8 ■■■■■■■ or the Ford badged Perkins V8 I also seem to recall that Fords used the 6 speed ZF box behind the V8 Perkins later on after they kicked the V8 ■■■■■■■ into touch. Cheers Dennis.
Dennis it was the ■■■■■■■ ,and he self fitted a self steering axle that worked on casters .
Bewick:
Punchy Dan:
That’s about the same time my father would be going to London in his V8 ford Dennis taking Ashpalt blocks and returning with tinned food with ply sheets on then other stuff such as rolls of roofing felt stacked on top .Hiya Dan, did your Dads motor have a V8 ■■■■■■■ or the Ford badged Perkins V8 I also seem to recall that Fords used the 6 speed ZF box behind the V8 Perkins later on after they kicked the V8 ■■■■■■■ into touch. Cheers Dennis.
I can confirm that the 6-speed ZF went behind the Perkins V8. In the artics the combination was used with a 2-speed axle, giving the peculiar shift pattern as discussed on another thread recently. The usual method of progress was to use every gear after the first three, with stacks of revs when fully loaded (
). It was the best way to get the plot moving at a reasonable rate although fuel consumption didn’t bear too much investigation!
Punchy Dan:
Dennis it was the ■■■■■■■ ,and he self fitted a self steering axle that worked on casters .
Would the axle have been an Italian “Cesci” one Dan, the ones you had to stop before reversing and insert a spring pin so as to keep the self steer in fixed position otherwise you had the wheels all over the place and couldn’t reverse very far ?( a bit like reversing a trailer behind a “Skate Board” Mate)
Dennis.
I was taught to rope & sheet by my father wen i was 12yrs old,i used to stand & watch him,he used to do 1 dolly pull down hard put another dolly in that makes 2,pull down hard on the 2nd dolly as it pulls the 1st down,then he wud take the 2nd dolly out.wen putting on yr fly sheet,never rope on it,the scotchman called the fly sheet,“skin”
i had to learn from scratch,but i learned at a younger age.i had to carry chains & tightners for timber,before straps appeared,“I think i deserve a pat on the Back as i never lost a load in my 28 yrs of long distance” I did alot of chip board out of cabberboard,cowie,stirling,to west country,strap it down first,i always used 7 straps,mine never moved,put on my main 2 sheets,fly sheet,thats it,“no ropes” Norman croad,Torquay
6LX:
I was taught to rope & sheet by my father wen i was 12yrs old,i used to stand & watch him,he used to do 1 dolly pull down hard put another dolly in that makes 2,pull down hard on the 2nd dolly as it pulls the 1st down,then he wud take the 2nd dolly out.wen putting on yr fly sheet,never rope on it,the scotchman called the fly sheet,“skin”
i had to learn from scratch,but i learned at a younger age.i had to carry chains & tightners for timber,before straps appeared,“I think i deserve a pat on the Back as i never lost a load in my 28 yrs of long distance” I did alot of chip board out of cabberboard,cowie,stirling,to west country,strap it down first,i always used 7 straps,mine never moved,put on my main 2 sheets,fly sheet,thats it,“no ropes” Norman croad,Torquay
The best way to learn, taught by Dad Sadly we are a dying breed, my youngest is 10 years old & Lorry mad, but can’t take him with me, Insurance/H&S etc etc etc
. Regards Chris
I used to take my Son on trips regularly too but he wasn’t interested in the job itself and preferred to stay in the cab drawing or reading, however his younger Sister was another matter and she would help me fold my sheets and tie a Dolly, she’s almost 40 yrs old now but still remembers those days fondly, its nice your kids share some of the memories you also had at their age. Franky.
They’re Bewick type loads !
Your in trouble now Dan
Punchy Dan:
They’re Bewick type loads !
Wonder how many Skate Boards it would take to tranship those loads onto ? 30,40,50 maybe ? You’d need a telescopic lens to get them all in the shot though ! Cheers Bewick.