boris:
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Two proper jobs from the old days eh boris
regards dave.
dafdave:
boris:
0Two proper jobs from the old days eh boris
regards dave.
And I reckon they would have both been loaded by Cockney shunters as well ready for the night trunk north 
Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
dafdave:
boris:
0Two proper jobs from the old days eh boris
regards dave.And I reckon they would have both been loaded by Cockney shunters as well ready for the night trunk north
Aye, Plus only two very large main sheets be the look of them No drip sheet or should I say Fly Sheet Dennis, Not an easey task, But they are both tidy IMO,Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Bewick:
dafdave:
boris:
0Two proper jobs from the old days eh boris
regards dave.And I reckon they would have both been loaded by Cockney shunters as well ready for the night trunk north
Aye, Plus only two very large main sheets be the look of them No drip sheet or should I say Fly Sheet Dennis, Not an easey task, But they are both tidy IMO,Regards Larry.
Um. They do appear to have a second sheet on top of the main sheet Larry. I didn’t buy ‘fly sheets’ which were, I think, plastic, and not to be roped over.
Pat Mayor, of Preston, where I bought my first sheets, with ‘West of Barrow’ stamped on them, gave me some second hand sheets to use as fly sheets. He recommended that they went on first and guaranteed that with two thicknesses of canvas they wouldn’t leak.
He was right. I never had any ‘wet damage’ with the bog rolls. Had a few rejected boxes where I’d pulled a bit hard on the ‘dolly’, but that was better than the load coming off!
John.
Well Ive had another close look at them & IMO The first sheet would cover all the front with a bit down the back the same as the second sheet has at the front, If you take a look at the second one there is no short bit of sheet down the off side, It was common practice in those days to sheet up in that way so there was double covering on the top of the load & single down the sides IMO That is, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry and Dennis, I reckon a third sheet placed first down the offside and partially round the front offside corner, then the second which covers all the front and seals the front O/S corner then topped of with the third sheet as seen. Thats how we used to do it with very high loads of Marchon BIG S soap powder often delivered to Winthrops Laboratories at Fawdon and also to Grangemouth Docks.
Cheers. Leyland 600
Hiya Lads isn’t it great to have a crack about a decent subject ! Now this is a great photo of two identical loads probably both sheeted and roped ,together,by the two shunters.IMO they have hung a sheet down the near sides and part way over the top then they have done the same from the off-side which gives the driver a smooth surface along his side so that there is nothing impeding his rear view.Although the edge of the sheet lapping over the top of the nearside is too high to ripple or impair the view in the n/s mirror in this case the loads have still been sheeted in the correct way which is exactly how I was taught by my old Pal on Brady’s ,hope it makes sense but I don’t think it needs any explaing to you Lads eh! Cheers Dennis.
so that there is nothing impeding his rear view
I can only imagine how good those mirrors must have been!
The company I drive for still do roping and sheeting on a daily basis but we don’t use flysheets, our tarps have PVC sown into them along the top. What is the opinion of this approach among the roping and sheeting connoisseurs? Our loads stay dry and I think they look good too.
Bewick:
Hiya Lads isn’t it great to have a crack about a decent subject ! Now this is a great photo of two identical loads probably both sheeted and roped ,together,by the two shunters.IMO they have hung a sheet down the near sides and part way over the top then they have done the same from the off-side which gives the driver a smooth surface along his side so that there is nothing impeding his rear view.Although the edge of the sheet lapping over the top of the nearside is too high to ripple or impair the view in the n/s mirror in this case the loads have still been sheeted in the correct way which is exactly how I was taught by my old Pal on Brady’s ,hope it makes sense but I don’t think it needs any explaing to you Lads eh!
Exactly how I used to sheet my loads of boxed fruit. I had two different sizes of sheet- the smaller one covered the nearside and rear, the larger one the offside and front with enough spare material to turn the front and back corners. This meant that the top of the load had a double thickness of sheet (in those days the best material was reckoned to be, “double duck”).
The first fly sheet I had was made from the same material and was very useful for covering low loads and the top of loads of bales. PVC was used only on bulk tippers for some years in our area.
When i first started roping and sheeting as a yard lad for Rookes of Tadcaster they had 3 sheets on a 40 footer. I weighed a big green one when it was brand new and it was exactly 16 stone. Hard work in them days ha.
3 sheets were the big green one, a small blue one and a fly sheet
LowRange:
so that there is nothing impeding his rear view
I can only imagine how good those mirrors must have been!
The company I drive for still do roping and sheeting on a daily basis but we don’t use flysheets, our tarps have PVC sown into them along the top. What is the opinion of this approach among the roping and sheeting connoisseurs? Our loads stay dry and I think they look good too.
Hiya,
“Lowrange”, your loads must always be of the same size, or the PVC “strip” won’t
always land in the “doing any good” area, ie’ covering the total top area of your
load as would be the case if you had a high load that would normally take two
or more sheets to cover or you just have one huge sheet which would take a bit
of muscle to throw about and would leave a lot of material at the bottom to get
rid of in the case of low load, big pair of scissors maybe.
thanks harry, long retired.
Putting two or three PVC panels into the middle of a main sheet may seem like killing two birds with one stone so to speak but I never reckoned much to the idea as the continual roping over the mains gradually wore thin spots into the sheet which eventually would allow the ingress of rain water (ingress is a polite description for “■■■■■■■ in”).As “H” quite rightly observed it’s OK if the loads are always the same size but not much use otherwise. IMO you couldn’t beat topping of a set of main sheets with a decent Fly,Drip or Flapper sheet which kept the load dry and certainly helped to reduce the water soaked up in the mains and the ropes .And as for that previous post from the Lad who had to lift 16 stone main sheets at Rookes well IMHO it was just ■■■■■■■ madness as IIRC Rookes hauled pallets of glass regularly so surely the sheets could have been more manageable but probably the ■■■■ in the office who ordered them was never going to have to work with them Doh! my ■■■■■■■ head hurts !1 Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Putting two or three PVC panels into the middle of a main sheet may seem like killing two birds with one stone so to speak but I never reckoned much to the idea as the continual roping over the mains gradually wore thin spots into the sheet which eventually would allow the ingress of rain water (ingress is a polite description for “■■■■■■■ in”).As “H” quite rightly observed it’s OK if the loads are always the same size but not much use otherwise. IMO you couldn’t beat topping of a set of main sheets with a decent Fly,Drip or Flapper sheet which kept the load dry and certainly helped to reduce the water soaked up in the mains and the ropes .And as for that previous post from the Lad who had to lift 16 stone main sheets at Rookes well IMHO it was just [zb] madness as IIRC Rookes hauled pallets of glass regularly so surely the sheets could have been more manageable but probably the [zb] in the office who ordered them was never going to have to work with them Doh! my [zb] head hurts !1 Cheers Bewick.
Hiya,
You put it much better than me Dennis, Oh’ and that (zb) in the office if he was
not the Guvnor might just have been doing a spot of “nest feathering” in league
with the sheet manufacturing outfit.
thanks harry, long retired
i was once saddled with a huge sheet , measured to cover 20 tons of hydrated lime which it did perfectly . the damned thing weighed about 2 cwt dry , not that it was dry often in buxton . one windy day i was rolling it up on top of the load and the wind took it , with a little help , straight off the load into canada dock . oh dear what a shame !even the gaffer was glad it was gone . dave
Many thanks for the info gentlemen, every day is a school day. Our sheeted loads are roughly all the same size so that makes sense about the PVC panel. I can see what Bewick means about the PVC wearing through too. It’s fairly easy to tear an older sheet on the corners of the headboard if you pull too tight on the rope across the top of it.
All this talk about sheeting high loads brings back memories from when I first started with my first motor,22ft flat equipped with 1x30ft Long x 21ft wide main plus 1x 30ft long x 12ft wide fly sheet and a piece of old sheet probably about 12 x 10 ft. Some of my first loads back from the Smoke was a regular load of cans ex Metal Box Acton to Glaxo in Kendal. Twenty pallets two high so I had to use every square inch of canvas I had on the motor which involved hanging the tail sheet down the back of the load then hanging the fly sheet down the N/S and around the fron’t and back then opening the main sheet out over the top about a couple of foot above the chock on the O/S then pulling it down careful like to the chock and nip around and tie it off along the N/S then fastening the sheets around the fron’t end then pulling the edge of the main tight along the O/S chock and around the back end,result,a sheeting job as nice and tight as some of the virgins “H” used to consort with down the Brown Bear in his hay day 
Seriously I never got 'owt wet but I could have done with a nice fly sheet to finish off the job( if I could have afforded it ! Cheers Bewick.
You didn’t have an unlocked BRS depot near you then, Dennis?
Retired Old ■■■■:
You didn’t have an unlocked BRS depot near you then, Dennis?
Well this only goes to demonstrate the difference between the high law-abiding standards us ■■■■■■■■ lads maintain to those which the inhabitants of the “Forrest” practice. 
Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Putting two or three PVC panels into the middle of a main sheet may seem like killing two birds with one stone so to speak but I never reckoned much to the idea as the continual roping over the mains gradually wore thin spots into the sheet which eventually would allow the ingress of rain water (ingress is a polite description for “■■■■■■■ in”).As “H” quite rightly observed it’s OK if the loads are always the same size but not much use otherwise. IMO you couldn’t beat topping of a set of main sheets with a decent Fly,Drip or Flapper sheet which kept the load dry and certainly helped to reduce the water soaked up in the mains and the ropes .And as for that previous post from the Lad who had to lift 16 stone main sheets at Rookes well IMHO it was just [zb] madness as IIRC Rookes hauled pallets of glass regularly so surely the sheets could have been more manageable but probably the [zb] in the office who ordered them was never going to have to work with them Doh! my [zb] head hurts !1 Cheers Bewick.
i got the boss to get me two sheets with a pvc top panel , but they were for a centre mounted crane trailer . we got a contract to deliver bagged cement to ground consolidation sites and it was all crane off load . they were invaluable and rolled up tight were small enough to ride on the side guard mounts . mind you if the sun was shining the cement got netted down . dave