Could I enquire what sort of weight was on that trailer?,if it was “full whack” I don’t reckon much to it being up against the headboard leaving all that empty platform at the back end,it is probably on pallets so it could have been set back 4 or 5 feet.However if it was only a light load fair enough for how it was loaded but still not my idea of how it should have been done No fly sheet either,but I don’t think they are used much nowadays probably too much like hard work but a fly sheet would have finished off that very well sheeted load surely Cheers Bewick.
Hiya,
Well “Scottie0011” Your’e mate will never be out of work with that capability obviously
a fly sheet not required or that would have been equally as well applied, not all loads
did require a fly the sheeting and roping there to make sure the load stayed on only.
thanks harry, long retired.
Well Harry, even Dennis admitted in an earlier post that the further North you travelled the better the sheeting/roping became and you don’t get much further North than Aberdeen! I suppose Dennis’s crew were somewhere just above central, tidy, but ‘could do better’ I guess?
Could I enquire what sort of weight was on that trailer?,if it was “full whack” I don’t reckon much to it being up against the headboard leaving all that empty platform at the back end,it is probably on pallets so it could have been set back 4 or 5 feet.However if it was only a light load fair enough for how it was loaded but still not my idea of how it should have been done No fly sheet either,but I don’t think they are used much nowadays probably too much like hard work but a fly sheet would have finished off that very well sheeted load surely Cheers Bewick.
Hiya,
Looks like a “cap” load Dennis !!! no flat spots on the “boolers” or was he like me
always having to leave a couple of yards at the back, “there’s a couple of tons in
the yard for Northampton when you’re passing” en-route to London.
thanks harry, long retired.
Could I enquire what sort of weight was on that trailer?,if it was “full whack” I don’t reckon much to it being up against the headboard leaving all that empty platform at the back end,it is probably on pallets so it could have been set back 4 or 5 feet.However if it was only a light load fair enough for how it was loaded but still not my idea of how it should have been done No fly sheet either,but I don’t think they are used much nowadays probably too much like hard work but a fly sheet would have finished off that very well sheeted load surely Cheers Bewick.
Hiya,
Looks like a “cap” load Dennis !!! no flat spots on the “boolers” or was he like me
always having to leave a couple of yards at the back, “there’s a couple of tons in
the yard for Northampton when you’re passing” en-route to London.
thanks harry, long retired.
You could be right there “H”,it was a regular thing years ago,“got 4 pallets here in the yard so leave 8 foot if you can” !!! failing that they can go on the top and sheet them seperate “BUT THEY’VE GOT TO GO DEFO” !!! It looks like that load has had a right good shower on it “H” so a fly sheet would have kept the mains bone dry ! Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
I’m pleased to see that the “nit picking club” is still functioning efficiently However,I do realise that regardless of a plausible explanation which I can offer it will still remain as a black mark against the Bewick shunter who sheeted the trailer! That was a new fly sheet and some of them came with ties in the centre end eyelet,although not all our fly sheets had a centre eyelet.The shunter will have rolled out the new sheet and rather than remove the centre tie he has just tied it around the bases of the suzie connections,quite safely IMHO but uneccessary all the same and that tie would have been removed sooner rather than later As for ROF’s suggestion that we should have had a hook welded on the middle of the headboard !!! no comment Actually the TASK flats did have a double hook welded on in the middle of the back cross member which were very useful.But you are really “scraping the barrel” to find fault compared to some of the “examples” that have been posted on this thread But it keeps me on my toes eh! Cheers Dennis.
That’s a poor excuse Dennis,if you ordered the new fly sheets,the order should have been confirmed as being correct on receipt of the new fly sheet,with or without the centre eyelet,but received as ordered.
Bewick:
I’m pleased to see that the “nit picking club” is still functioning efficiently However,I do realise that regardless of a plausible explanation which I can offer it will still remain as a black mark against the Bewick shunter who sheeted the trailer! That was a new fly sheet and some of them came with ties in the centre end eyelet,although not all our fly sheets had a centre eyelet.The shunter will have rolled out the new sheet and rather than remove the centre tie he has just tied it around the bases of the suzie connections,quite safely IMHO but uneccessary all the same and that tie would have been removed sooner rather than later As for ROF’s suggestion that we should have had a hook welded on the middle of the headboard !!! no comment Actually the TASK flats did have a double hook welded on in the middle of the back cross member which were very useful.But you are really “scraping the barrel” to find fault compared to some of the “examples” that have been posted on this thread But it keeps me on my toes eh! Cheers Dennis.
That’s a poor excuse Dennis,if you ordered the new fly sheets,the order should have been confirmed as being correct on receipt of the new fly sheet,with or without the centre eyelet,but received as ordered.
David
Come on David !! I would order half a dozen fly sheets “lettered” and at a price at a time, and if the supplier( one of only two) stuck an extra two eyelets on each end and two additional ties so what! the ties were used else where in the fleet .And no we didn’t open up 6 new sheets when they were delivered as we trusted our suppliers to deliver what we had ordered ! It never happened but if we had opened one up one and it was defective in any way I would have had the “goolies” off the salesman concerned,or the bloke that made them, no danger Cheers Dennis.
The one on the far carriageway may not be too bad but the two in the foreground are just disgusting ■■■■■■■ messes ! They gave the industry a bad name at times ! The BRS AEC is “par for the course” but there is no excuse for the Invincible,he want’s a right good bollocking !! Cheers Bewick.
Leyland600:
What is all this rubbish from VOSA about ropes not being fit for purpose, ■■ It seems to work on the Isle of Capri. I hope the driver did not make a sharp right turn and hit the cop on the back of his head with the timber overhang.
High tech roping !! Leyland 600.
Regarding ropes not being fit for purpose, in may cases VOSA are a joke, typical of H & S gone mad, they worked well in the 1930’s 40’s 50’s 60’s 70’s until straps were brought out which no doubt are better, but ropes still have there place in transport, and I doubt there were more accidents with ropes that there are now with straps, Oh yes! I wonder how many in the manufacturing of straps have interest in VOSA and H & S, who make up the rules for transport, makes you think dont it.
I think the BRS shunter that loaded that must have been the one they sent to Bowaters at Barrow, where the first 2 loads had collapsed in the sheets before they got 15 miles, Dennis!
Leyland600:
What is all this rubbish from VOSA about ropes not being fit for purpose, ■■ It seems to work on the Isle of Capri. I hope the driver did not make a sharp right turn and hit the cop on the back of his head with the timber overhang.
High tech roping !! Leyland 600.
Regarding ropes not being fit for purpose, in may cases VOSA are a joke, typical of H & S gone mad, they worked well in the 1930’s 40’s 50’s 60’s 70’s until straps were brought out which no doubt are better, but ropes still have there place in transport, and I doubt there were more accidents with ropes that there are now with straps, Oh yes! I wonder how many in the manufacturing of straps have interest in VOSA and H & S, who make up the rules for transport, makes you think dont it.
Well said jack
As all know [who have done it] in the earlier yrs when it was all r/s,done proper nothing moved.The reason VOSA and the H&S brigade come out with these r/rs is because biggest majority have never done the job hands on and therefore don’t know what they are on about.
regards dave.
Methods with regard to load security have changed dramatically over the years from flat platform/ropes and sheets to curtainsiders/vans/tensioned strapping,unfortunately adhoc sheeting and roping became too much of a chore and time consuming not to mention that many customers believed their goods were far better transported inside a curtainsider or van.Consequently the skills required to move goods using the R&S method have been lost and coupled with the upsurge in H&S followed by the ■■■■■ at VOSA taking an un-healthy interest in load security the whole industry has “gone down the pan” viz-a-viz the drivers/shunters responsibilty for load security.It now seems that drivers can’t be trusted to ensure that their cargos are safely secured without recourse to the VOSA book on “how to secure your load” what a load of bollox some of the long gone drivers I have both known in my younger days as well as many that I employed will be spinning in their graves now.It reminds of an old and correct saying,"those that can “do” those that can’t “teach” or in VOSAS case “interfere” !! Glad I’m well out of the ■■■■■■■ job nowadays ! Cheers Bewick.
Yes i agree with Bewick on his last comment,however the photograph of the 3 trucks i do not ,as the load on the guy looks solid enough ,maybe bales of wool
as for the lorry in the back ground looks like a leyland commet another well sheeted load for a tramper… the drivers little round mirror is the give away.?The BRS man also sheeted well nice dollies…,perhaps the two were heading north to display southern workmanship, time to look for digs and park up.ww
No fly sheet either,but I don’t think they are used much nowadays probably too much like hard work but a fly sheet would have finished off that very well sheeted load surely 
Cheers Bewick.
Actually the TASK flats did have a double hook welded on in the middle of the back cross member which were very useful.But you are really “scraping the barrel” to find fault compared to some of the “examples” that have been posted on this thread 
