The earlier picture of the W.J.Hawes DAF looks like a Robert Armstrong tank behind it. 
gerbil sb152:
The earlier picture of the W.J.Hawes DAF looks like a Robert Armstrong tank behind it.
Kev
could be any of the P&O Group tanker companies
Jeremy
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Apologies for once more intruding on a primarily wagon related site with a non related comment.
I do feel obliged to divulge however that despite the fact that I’ve never been a fleet operator, or an owner driver even , nor was I ever involved in the Middle East spike of the 70s /80s , … over the years I’ve done my share of sheeting , roping , chaining and strapping etc ., forty four years of it in fact , and like Dennis , I’ve had enough of it , but in my opinion , given the correct equipment , there’s zb all much involved in restraining a few sections of railway track … After all , it ain’t effin Quantum physics is it ? … come on .
It would appear however that I seemingly made a minor grammatical error in my previous post which , it would appear , was immediately seized upon , apparently in order to to evade answering my initial question … but again … , that’s just my train of thought .
Leaving that aside for a moment however , and with regard to Spardo’s comment concerning european languages , for some time now , I’ve found it fascinating that many of us , the English that is , unknowingly perhaps , speak , to a degree , a multitude of international languages , as a substantial amount of our language does in fact evolve from Greek and Latin , with a soupçon of Arabic also it has to be said
as well as a bit of Viking and Germanic .
I don’t want this post to take up page after page , but historically , within the postcode in which I currently reside , the crude name for a toilet , or lavatory , was back in the 50s anyway , ‘ petty ‘.
“ Petty “ is a word rarely heard these days in Wigan , as anyone born post 66 will most probably never even have heard the word … Language continually evolving as it does .
As kids ,we were never allowed to use this word at home as the word was considered to be impolite , but information subsequently received advises that the word ‘ petty ‘ is a derivative of the phrase “ petit salle “ , and was brought back to this country by the surviving combatants of the 14 / 18 bloodbath who retrospectively had sadly been misinformed about the possible outcome of the adventure .
Nothing impolite about this word in my view .
Unfortunately Wigan isn’t in France , or I’d most likely be fluent in French by now .
“ Dommage “
… we hear of women being trapped in men’s bodies … and vice versa .
Well I guess I’m just a frog trapped inside the body of a bifstek .
[ edit ] Fergie labelled this S**thole “ Plague Island “ … and Fergie was bleedin’ well right an’ all . God help us .
Eddie, way back in my primary school days, amongst the slates and chalk*, Queensland Education taught from and provided students with a booklet entitled “Derivation”. This explained from which language various words evolved and helped greatly with spelling words that broke the normal rules of English.
*May or may not be a slight exaggeration. 
Is that where you learnt your roping skills S.D.U. on “bring your calf to school” day.
Anon.
mushroomman:
Is that where you learnt your roping skills S.D.U. on “bring your calf to school” day.Anon.
Not sure I learned much at school, apart from the cane hurts. 
Star down under.:
Eddie, way back in my primary school days, amongst the slates and chalk*, Queensland Education taught from and provided students with a booklet entitled “Derivation”. This explained from which language various words evolved and helped greatly with spelling words that broke the normal rules of English.*May or may not be a slight exaggeration.
That’s a brilliant idea SDU, and one that other kids around the world might have benefitted from.
@Eddie - Petit salle, or more gramatically petite salle, simply means little room and so it is quite reasonable to be used in the way that you remember. I have not heard it used here though so perhaps something that went out of common speech years ago. 
Eddie Heaton:
Apologies for once more intruding on a primarily wagon related site with a non related comment.I do feel obliged to divulge however that despite the fact that I’ve never been a fleet operator, or an owner driver even , nor was I ever involved in the Middle East spike of the 70s /80s , … over the years I’ve done my share of sheeting , roping , chaining and strapping etc ., forty four years of it in fact , and like Dennis , I’ve had enough of it , but in my opinion , given the correct equipment , there’s zb all much involved in restraining a few sections of railway track … After all , it ain’t effin Quantum physics is it ? … come on .
It would appear however that I seemingly made a minor grammatical error in my previous post which , it would appear , was immediately seized upon , apparently in order to to evade answering my initial question … but again … , that’s just my train of thought .
Leaving that aside for a moment however , and with regard to Spardo’s comment concerning european languages , for some time now , I’ve found it fascinating that many of us , the English that is , unknowingly perhaps , speak , to a degree , a multitude of international languages , as a substantial amount of our language does in fact evolve from Greek and Latin , with a soupçon of Arabic also it has to be said
as well as a bit of Viking and Germanic .I don’t want this post to take up page after page , but historically , within the postcode in which I currently reside , the crude name for a toilet , or lavatory , was back in the 50s anyway , ‘ petty ‘.
“ Petty “ is a word rarely heard these days in Wigan , as anyone born post 66 will most probably never even have heard the word … Language continually evolving as it does .
As kids ,we were never allowed to use this word at home as the word was considered to be impolite , but information subsequently received advises that the word ‘ petty ‘ is a derivative of the phrase “ petit salle “ , and was brought back to this country by the surviving combatants of the 14 / 18 bloodbath who retrospectively had sadly been misinformed about the possible outcome of the adventure .
Nothing impolite about this word in my view .
Unfortunately Wigan isn’t in France , or I’d most likely be fluent in French by now .
“ Dommage “
… we hear of women being trapped in men’s bodies … and vice versa .
Well I guess I’m just a frog trapped inside the body of a bifstek .
[ edit ] Fergie labelled this S**thole “ Plague Island “ … and Fergie was bleedin’ well right an’ all . God help us .
Soupçon Eddie?..…………love it!!!
Perhaps “petty” very near to"potty"■■
David
5thwheel:
Eddie Heaton:
Apologies for once more intruding on a primarily wagon related site with a non related comment.I do feel obliged to divulge however that despite the fact that I’ve never been a fleet operator, or an owner driver even , nor was I ever involved in the Middle East spike of the 70s /80s , … over the years I’ve done my share of sheeting , roping , chaining and strapping etc ., forty four years of it in fact , and like Dennis , I’ve had enough of it , but in my opinion , given the correct equipment , there’s zb all much involved in restraining a few sections of railway track … After all , it ain’t effin Quantum physics is it ? … come on .
It would appear however that I seemingly made a minor grammatical error in my previous post which , it would appear , was immediately seized upon , apparently in order to to evade answering my initial question … but again … , that’s just my train of thought .
Leaving that aside for a moment however , and with regard to Spardo’s comment concerning european languages , for some time now , I’ve found it fascinating that many of us , the English that is , unknowingly perhaps , speak , to a degree , a multitude of international languages , as a substantial amount of our language does in fact evolve from Greek and Latin , with a soupçon of Arabic also it has to be said
as well as a bit of Viking and Germanic .I don’t want this post to take up page after page , but historically , within the postcode in which I currently reside , the crude name for a toilet , or lavatory , was back in the 50s anyway , ‘ petty ‘.
“ Petty “ is a word rarely heard these days in Wigan , as anyone born post 66 will most probably never even have heard the word … Language continually evolving as it does .
As kids ,we were never allowed to use this word at home as the word was considered to be impolite , but information subsequently received advises that the word ‘ petty ‘ is a derivative of the phrase “ petit salle “ , and was brought back to this country by the surviving combatants of the 14 / 18 bloodbath who retrospectively had sadly been misinformed about the possible outcome of the adventure .
Nothing impolite about this word in my view .
Unfortunately Wigan isn’t in France , or I’d most likely be fluent in French by now .
“ Dommage “
… we hear of women being trapped in men’s bodies … and vice versa .
Well I guess I’m just a frog trapped inside the body of a bifstek .
[ edit ] Fergie labelled this S**thole “ Plague Island “ … and Fergie was bleedin’ well right an’ all . God help us .
Soupçon Eddie?..…………love it!!!
Perhaps “petty” very near to"potty"■■
David
Eddie the “Geordie” derivation of the word for toilet / lavatory, is “Netty” , so not so far from your " petty". Regards Kev.
kevmac47:
Eddie the “Geordie” derivation of the word for toilet / lavatory, is “Netty” , so not so far from your " petty". Regards Kev.
Our word for it began with ‘S’, no surprise it was parentally banned.
Buzzer
Spardo:
kevmac47:
Eddie the “Geordie” derivation of the word for toilet / lavatory, is “Netty” , so not so far from your " petty". Regards Kev.Our word for it began with ‘S’, no surprise it was parentally banned.
A Scottish word for it is “cludgie”. Don’t think anyone really knows how that evolved into our language but as the word sounds disgusting it’s quite apt IMO.
These other names come to mind regarding toilets, Karzi,Bog, Thunderbox,Lavvie,Loo,Pee Corner.
So many names for a simple dunny.
And for any old matelots on here it’s the “heads”.
A rather apt thread for this discussion, maybe not everyone can rope, but I’m everyone can…
Star down under.:
A rather apt thread for this discussion, maybe not everyone can rope, but I’m everyone can…
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As long as the thread dosnt change to Roping & ■■■■■■■■■
Dennis Javelin:
And for any old matelots on here it’s the “heads”.
Only for Royal ‘Grey Funnel Line’ (RN) matelots. Never heard that used in the MN.
Spardo:
Dennis Javelin:
And for any old matelots on here it’s the “heads”.Only for Royal ‘Grey Funnel Line’ (RN) matelots. Never heard that used in the MN.
I always thought that the term “matelot” in general use only applied to RN sailors anyway.