Carryfast:
discoman:
Now, I could pretend I drive around surrey in my Chelsea tractor pretending to know it all about trucks but I don’t … I am and will advise you that the trucks are spec to pull 90t GVM for two trailers.
Yes as I said a 12 axle 90t GTW A double.Which was the point that in your extremely limited knowledge of doing uk supermarket work you missed.
Seems to me that my experience of driving trucks is a lot more than yours.Including around 38t on 3 axles and 6 single wheels all legal and without needing to go any further than Middx and Surrey to do it. 
Supermarket…■■? Nope, wrong again… M&S Enfield … was run by DHL, and it was clothing that was delivered not food.
In relation to the 90t take it up with the government I only go by what they advise.
discoman:
Carryfast:
Let’s hope that your knowledge of Australian immigration law is better than your knowledge of Australian axle weight limits. 
So tell us exactly what are these supposed free movement rules which would allow a Brit immigrant,with no applicable family connections,to work there driving trucks on arrival and before being granted citizenship rights,which I don’t know about ?.Then again maybe don’t bother because they’ll be no more believable than all the other bs.
Why would I need knowledge of Australian immigration law?? That’s what an agent is paid too do … you should know that… if you are referring to me as a police officer, well forget it because that’s not state that federal … you have them over to immigration 
nothing to do with the police, same as the UK… well, you maybe should look up on the immi.gov.aul website for how to enter Australia… and yes, if I wanted to I could of took a truck test and drove a truck after a few days of arriving. Now you should also be aware when moving to Australia they’re are many many visas a person can get… like we got a 175… which enabled me to walk in and do as I pleased. … why work that out…
You don’t need citizenship to drive a truck here, as long as you are a PR your fine … you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about
My wife is a hairdresser, and it was on the SSL for Australia… hence we got residency and yes that entitled me to walk straight into Australia and drive a truck or do any state job I desired … only federal jobs require citizenship … look at a few website such as the immigration career and you will see. … I am sure you will call it BS… but your wrong will you fess up and say I was wrong
Wrong about what ?.
So you’ve got a wife who’s on the applicable jobs list who could get in which automatically also gives you the right to get in with her.Although doesn’t police also fit an applicable job description for entry too ?.
Exactly where does the 175 Visa state that it includes truck driving as one of the so called needed ‘skilled occupations’ that it’s still conditional on.Also where does it differentiate driving trucks within State v Interstate ?.How many road train driver jobs don’t involve driving Interstate anyway ?.
While back on topic where does the law state that you can use anything other than a 12 axle A train to run as a 90t gross double outfit.Although I doubt that you can understand the difference not having had much experience of anything to do with driving trucks except uk M and S clothes deliveries.Or obviously any interest in the Australian truck driving scene with the intention of working there as a driver,in which case knowing the relevant axle weights before you start helps.Or at least would if the place realised that we’re all supposed to be on the same side as one people,in the form of the idea of free movement which existed at least up to the 1950’s/60’s,so too early for me.
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Carryfast:
discoman:
Carryfast:
Let’s hope that your knowledge of Australian immigration law is better than your knowledge of Australian axle weight limits. So tell us exactly what are these supposed free movement rules which would allow a Brit immigrant,with no applicable family connections,to work there driving trucks on arrival and before being granted citizenship rights,which I don’t know about ?.Then again maybe don’t bother because they’ll be no more believable than all the other bs.
Why would I need knowledge of Australian immigration law?? That’s what an agent is paid too do … you should know that… if you are referring to me as a police officer, well forget it because that’s not state that federal … you have them over to immigration nothing to do with the police, same as the UK… well, you maybe should look up on the immi.gov.aul website for how to enter Australia… and yes, if I wanted to I could of took a truck test and drove a truck after a few days of arriving. Now you should also be aware when moving to Australia they’re are many many visas a person can get… like we got a 175… which enabled me to walk in and do as I pleased. … why work that out…
You don’t need citizenship to drive a truck here, as long as you are a PR your fine … you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about
My wife is a hairdresser, and it was on the SSL for Australia… hence we got residency and yes that entitled me to walk straight into Australia and drive a truck or do any state job I desired … only federal jobs require citizenship … look at a few website such as the immigration career and you will see. … I am sure you will call it BS… but your wrong will you fess up and say I was wrong
Wrong about what ?.
So you’ve got a wife who’s on the applicable jobs list who could get in which automatically also gives you the right to get in with her.Although doesn’t police also fit an applicable job description for entry too ?.
Exactly where does the 175 Visa state that it includes truck driving as one of the so called needed ‘skilled occupations’ that it’s still conditional on.Also where does it differentiate driving trucks within State v Interstate ?.How many road train driver jobs don’t involve driving Interstate anyway ?.
While back on topic where does the law state that you can use anything other than a 12 axle A train to run as a 90t gross double outfit.Although I doubt that you can understand the difference not having had much experience of anything to do with driving trucks except uk M and S clothes deliveries.Or obviously any interest in the Australian truck driving scene with the intention of working there as a driver,in which case knowing the relevant axle weights before you start helps.Or at least would if the place realised that we’re all supposed to be on the same side as one people,in the form of the idea of free movement which existed at least up to the 1950’s/60’s,so too early for me.
You really are a dumb idiot … a 175 visa is an unrestricted visa … unrestricted means you are not required to do a required job, that was the old 457 visa temp worker. and for the information here in Australia all states have there own police ie, I work for nsw police force … you have NT, QLD SA WA and VIC. You also have the AFP federal … that’s the only force you need to be a citizen for is the AFP. … free movement ceased you dumb idiot … you know nothing of immigration in Australia if you harp on about 60 years ago … it’s no longer 10£ Pom… a 176 visa is a state sponsored visa… which would require a person to remain in he sponsoring state for 2 years prior to moving states… you Need to go on www.immi.gov.au and research visas … you are talking out of your arse as per.
No the police doesn’t fit an applicable role unless it is on the skills occupation list… please do not pretend to know about the immigration process for Australia because you will look like a proper mug … you can’t even realise a 175 is an unrestricted visa…
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
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And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Woosh, that joke went right over your head didn’t it. Like most on here I long ago realised its impossible to have an intellegent discussion when you’re involved so I tend to steer clear. Having a ‘debate’ with someone who thinks he has the answer to everything and will never ever listen to others isn’t great for ones mental health.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Woosh, that joke went right over your head didn’t it. Like most on here I long ago realised its impossible to have an intellegent discussion when you’re involved so I tend to steer clear. Having a ‘debate’ with someone who thinks he has the answer to everything and will never ever listen to others isn’t great for ones mental health.
Do you build brick walls? I’m sure carry fast might as you to build one after. A lesson on where sand comes from and, well you know the rest …
discoman:
You really are a dumb idiot … a 175 visa is an unrestricted visa … unrestricted means you are not required to do a required job,
Blimey so being able to read isn’t a requirement for the Australian police.Also don’t see hairdresser there unless I’ve missed it. 
border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/175-
visabureau.com/australia/ski … -list.aspx
visabureau.com/australia/med … -list.aspx
While if you were right don’t you think the Oz driver market would be flooded by hopeful Brits looking to drive a proper truck and doing something better than supermarket runs here.Although admittedly the desert scenery,flies and snakes zb roads and blazing heat or torrential rain might be enough to put anyone off.So I’d probably go for NZ.Oh wait their visa regime is just as bad if not worse because they’ll deport anyone retrospectively with fluctuations in the skills/recognised occupations list. Meanwhile would anyone want to work in a country that doesn’t view driving road trains in whatever form as being a ‘skilled’ job.
discoman:
No the police doesn’t fit an applicable role unless it is on the skills occupation list… please do not pretend to know about the immigration process for Australia because you will look like a proper mug … you can’t even realise a 175 is an unrestricted visa…
Ironically I’m not mug enough to not realise that a 175 visa is as bad as all the rest of the bs colonial immigration barriers put up against their own here.As for police like hairdresser no that was just a case of me being mug enough to actually believe you for once.Unless it’s a case of hairdresser was on it in which case think yourself lucky that you’re not in NZ because they would probably deport you retrospectively.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Woosh, that joke went right over your head didn’t it. Like most on here I long ago realised its impossible to have an intellegent discussion when you’re involved so I tend to steer clear. Having a ‘debate’ with someone who thinks he has the answer to everything and will never ever listen to others isn’t great for ones mental health.
Great.
So do you agree that the design of the Denby outfit,based on GCW,compromises its load capacity/flexibilty in addition to not being much better than the Stan Robinson A train regards road space requirement.
Or that the Stan Robinson design is a case of just too much truck for uk road conditions.
Leaving the still GTW based 8-9 axle type drawbar design as just right ?.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Woosh, that joke went right over your head didn’t it. Like most on here I long ago realised its impossible to have an intellegent discussion when you’re involved so I tend to steer clear. Having a ‘debate’ with someone who thinks he has the answer to everything and will never ever listen to others isn’t great for ones mental health.
Great.
So do you agree that the design of the Denby outfit,based on GCW,compromises its load capacity/flexibilty in addition to not being much better than the Stan Robinson A train regards road space requirement.
Or that the Stan Robinson design is a case of just too much truck for uk road conditions.
Leaving the still GTW based 8-9 axle type drawbar design as just right ?.
And so you prove my point. You Just. Don’t. Listen.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
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And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Woosh, that joke went right over your head didn’t it. Like most on here I long ago realised its impossible to have an intellegent discussion when you’re involved so I tend to steer clear. Having a ‘debate’ with someone who thinks he has the answer to everything and will never ever listen to others isn’t great for ones mental health.
Thank god someone got it Luke. I wasn’t actually aiming at him . It’s been removed as a personal attack
As if someone would actually say in seriousness someone smells of chihuahua balls. Place is turning snowflake .
Well personally speaking I’m impressed that you spelt chiwowa correctly. 
the maoster:
Well personally speaking I’m impressed that you spelt chiwowa correctly.
Me too. Got to otherwise might be called racist
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Choices choices. I choose Stan Robinson A double.
See you’ve got a personal attack removed. What was it, cad? Bounder?
Carryfast:
discoman:
No the police doesn’t fit an applicable role unless it is on the skills occupation list… please do not pretend to know about the immigration process for Australia because you will look like a proper mug … you can’t even realise a 175 is an unrestricted visa…
Ironically I’m not mug enough to not realise that a 175 visa is as bad as all the rest of the bs colonial immigration barriers put up against their own here.As for police like hairdresser no that was just a case of me being mug enough to actually believe you for once.Unless it’s a case of hairdresser was on it in which case think yourself lucky that you’re not in NZ because they would probably deport you retrospectively.
Carryfast, the skilled occupational list changes as the states see fit … when the application was made in 2008 it was on the list … it is now removed … now, I don’t care what you believe as I know factually it was in 2008 … and I live here in Australia. You do realise that the list changes as seen fit.
James the cat:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
James the cat:
This is entertaining, love the playgroundness. Takes me right back. Can I join in the debate?
And you sir are a nincompoup and a wally.
Or in the interests of what could/should be an interesting topic why not cut the pathetic trolling zb and provide an intelligent view as to the best most practical option for a long over due uk spec LHV.
IE Stan Robinson A double,or Denby B double,or Scandinavian/NZ/Western US type drawbar outfit ?.I’ve already provided mine in the form of the last option.
Choices choices. I choose Stan Robinson A double.
See you’ve got a personal attack removed. What was it, cad? Bounder?
Personally I couldn’t give two hoots about the whole subject. The only length limit I’d like to see increase is overall length but leaving trailer max lengths alone so we could have the option of bigger cabs. How many pallet spaces I tow around I couldn’t care less about!
Carryfast:
discoman:
You really are a dumb idiot … a 175 visa is an unrestricted visa … unrestricted means you are not required to do a required job,
Blimey so being able to read isn’t a requirement for the Australian police.Also don’t see hairdresser there unless I’ve missed it.
the uk is deemed to be competent then the uk citizens were not required to sit the English skills test
border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/175-
visabureau.com/australia/ski … -list.aspx
That changes once visa is granted it doesn’t matter.
visabureau.com/australia/med … -list.aspx
Again once the visa is issued you keep the right to remain and can work or study in any chosen field you desire.
While if you were right don’t you think the Oz driver market would be flooded by hopeful Brits looking to drive a proper truck and doing something better than supermarket runs here.Although admittedly the desert scenery,flies and snakes zb roads and blazing heat or torrential rain might be enough to put anyone off.So I’d probably go for NZ.Oh wait their visa regime is just as bad if not worse because they’ll deport anyone retrospectively with fluctuations in the skills/recognised occupations list. Meanwhile would anyone want to work in a country that doesn’t view driving road trains in whatever form as being a ‘skilled’ job.
Call up a migration agent, and ask them, once you are issued a visa it is not a condition based on your trade the required skills change as and when required … soon as the visa is granted you are not required to do the selected trade you can do any skill you want… sometimes landscaper gardener is on the list it comes and goes as the states see fit …That’s a fact… what’s a proper truck. Majority of trucks are European now … all the big companies such as Woolworth Coles, Linfox all use Mercs and Volvo’s … I can’t comment on NZ in relation to the issl or the ltsl as they have different rules to Australia… but, I will tell you one last time … if your wife was a teacher … she could obtain a visa, I don’t even know if it’s a 175 anymore … once it’s granted she can enter and do any job she pleased you can be a applicant on her application and so could of any child under 18 only the main applicant has their skills assessed. And all over 18 have police checks and medicals. As long as you meet the requirements at the time of the visa grant you are fine.