Seeing there isn’t a tachograph in the wagon, I would assume that road sweeper wagons were to drive under domestic rules… however there is no mention of adhering to driver hours laws in the contract, nor are we given a driver book to log hours on duty, however we have a weekly timesheet, which we put our start and finish times on, but don’t get a copy of it. So if I were to be given a day’s work that started in the yard at 0500… and I didn’t get back in the yard till 1900 and I had to be back in the yard at 0500 the next day… that would be wrong… yes?
Also if we get to the yard, get the wagon ready and get to a building site in 1.5 hours, then have to spend 9 hours on site, including tipping the wagon, and then the hour drive back to the yard, and another half hour to clean the wagon and park it up… that would be a 12 hour day… also against the rules? or do they only apply to time spent on the road, and not time on a building site off the road?
Are you talking about the big left hand drive ones and not the wee street king ones.im sure the larger ones are operated under plant,so no drivers regs need apply
The sweeper i drove had an analogue tacho in it, as far as im aware anything above 3500kg GMW that’s used for hire and reward is required by law to have a tacho.
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Are you talking about the big left hand drive ones and not the wee street king ones.im sure the larger ones are operated under plant,so no drivers regs need apply
The one i drove was a lhd Daf and required a tacho? Are you able to register them for different uses?
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Are you talking about the big left hand drive ones and not the wee street king ones.im sure the larger ones are operated under plant,so no drivers regs need apply
The one i drove was a lhd Daf and required a tacho? Are you able to register them for different uses?
I know a firm who use them and theres no tacho required and almost certain they run them on cherry,due to the plant rule.they are not a fly by night firm either
Right, so I’m still confused as why it would be considered plant, and not come under any drivers hours rules…
How’s this for a day… Go to work at 6am
Get to first job, 40 minute drive away, be there for an hour, get my ticket signed.
Drive to next job… 35 minutes away… be there for an hour, get ticket signed.
Continue this till 17:30 at which point I’m ready to head back to the yard, get back to the yard at quarter past 6, absolutely knackered cause I haven’t had a chance to stop for a proper break all day, just eat sarnies as I go, not mention it to anyone cause they wouldn’t give a flying zb anyway.
do this monday to friday and 0600 - 1200 saturday… how does all that time on the road not get regulated? and what if they are filling me full of it, and I get pulled by VOSA and they see my timesheets with 12 - 13 hour days on… would they not bother because it’s a plant vehicle?
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Right, so I’m still confused as why it would be considered plant, and not come under any drivers hours rules…
How’s this for a day… Go to work at 6am
Get to first job, 40 minute drive away, be there for an hour, get my ticket signed.
Drive to next job… 35 minutes away… be there for an hour, get ticket signed.
Continue this till 17:30 at which point I’m ready to head back to the yard, get back to the yard at quarter past 6, absolutely knackered cause I haven’t had a chance to stop for a proper break all day, just eat sarnies as I go, not mention it to anyone cause they wouldn’t give a flying zb anyway.
do this monday to friday and 0600 - 1200 saturday… how does all that time on the road not get regulated? and what if they are filling me full of it, and I get pulled by VOSA and they see my timesheets with 12 - 13 hour days on… would they not bother because it’s a plant vehicle?
It was once said to me, by someone whose opinion I respect, that you can actually drive & work for longer hours on the tacho than you can on the domestic rules.
I have no desire to prove them right or wrong, because for me, when I consider myself too knackered to drive then I stop driving. It’s as easy as that.
Like when I feel the need to go to the toilet, since leaving skool I’ve never felt the need to ask someone else’s permission !
It’s your license mate, you need to look after it. If you lose it because your following your employers instructions then consider the fact that without your license you can no longer work for that employer . . . & you can no longer work for any other employer either !