So whats the answer then? Vote labour and make the public sector even bigger than it already is so the working class have more money in there pocket and forget we’ve in a massive amount of debt? The fact that the public sector is currently bigger than the private sector is quite worrying and until this changes and we start exporting more the countries’ econmey will not grow.
Does it really matter who we vote for.
It’s not like we can go out and buy a new car if another party gets in, because we will be better off with all the savings they are making for us.
They all just think of us as mushrooms. keep us in the dark and feed us â– â– â– â– . Being a yorkshire man, im all for labour, but for someone like me and my wife, who both work full time with no kids and a mortgage. WTF should we keep paying for people claiming benefits. Really makes my â– â– â– â– boil, when these scrounges are on the radio crying poverty. Saying how am i going to live. Getting a â– â– â– â– â– â– â– job would be a start.
This is why im having second thoughts on who to vote for next time round.
I’ve always said that the only real alternative government was lost when Lord David Sutch died!!
Steve
spectron:
Does it really matter who we vote for.
It’s not like we can go out and buy a new car if another party gets in, because we will be better off with all the savings they are making for us.
They all just think of us as mushrooms. keep us in the dark and feed us [zb]. Being a yorkshire man, im all for labour, but for someone like me and my wife, who both work full time with no kids and a mortgage. WTF should we keep paying for people claiming benefits. Really makes my â– â– â– â– boil, when these scrounges are on the radio crying poverty. Saying how am i going to live. Getting a [zb] job would be a start.
This is why im having second thoughts on who to vote for next time round.
Well said that man!
Are any of the parties really worth their salt, whenever election time looms, they all make lots of promises, but fail to keep them. The electorate at the moment is very dissapointed with whats going on around us, Immigration is the biggest threat, it affects the NHS, schools, benefits, pensions etc, and yet Dave, were all in it togetherdoesnt seem to be doing a great deal about it, he seems more concerned with giving money away ( we cant afford ) in foreign aid, and FFS Somalia is the latest to score our hard earned cash. We have terrorists we cannot deport, We have illegal immigrants we cannot deport cos they have a cat, or it would affect their human rights, we have untold illegals who the government doesnt know where they are. may i suggest that an I.D. card is brought in Immediately, make every body concerned CHECK the card prior to anyone getting NHS, Benefits, and anything else they are able to land their dirty mitts on at the moment, NOBODY should be allowed to gain access to any of our services unless they have paid into the pot, nobody should be allowed in unless they have a job, and especially low paid, unskilled workers, who are at present doing work our students used to do, and can do again, along with our own youth, and yetDavekeeps telling us he is going toMakethem find work, but first, he has to create it for our own people. Child benefit, is being paid to people who have claimed here, then returned home again, cos there are no checks once its claimed, its available until that child reaches 16yrs then its only extended if the child goes to college, and is then extended for another 2 yrs,there was even a Polish man, who phoned up the department ( from Poland ) to ask why his Child benefit had not reached his bank, makes you laugh, So to cap it all, UKIP is making ground, and the other parties are wondering why, well, its because they are the party who actually care about this country, and will do whats necessary to make it great again, and if that means pulling out of the EU, and away from the dreaded Human Rights Act, then so be it, for they will get my vote at the next election, whether Dave decides to give us a referendum or not, for he is certainly dragging his heels on this one.
this country is suffering cutbacks in the nhs, police and all manner of public services. apparently we cant afford to fund these services properly …can someone explain where the millions or is it billions that we give away as foreign aid comes from ■■? Im all for helping others (that need!! it) but charity begins at home . when I started school 50 yrs ago one of the first things I was given was a envelope to put some money in "to help a hungry African child" . 50 yrs later and we are still sending money ■■?? but nothings changed where has the money gone ■■as a parent /grandparent I hate to see kids in need ,but I am of the opinion that something isnt right as regards the whereabouts of the money sent.
In the old days, a swelled public sector meant you could still get work at places like Royal Mail at least.
Now they’ve opened it up for tender and shed 75% of their workforce, you’ve got floundering firms like Manpower struggling to re-undercut other agency’s tenders, driving wages ever lower.
£6.40ph with 90 mins knocked off on 12 hour shifts (worst of both contracts in other words) is not uncommon nowdays for basic 600cf work (7.5t at mail centres)
It seems they are also getting wise to letting people stay on for the 13 weeks that would put one onto parity pay as well, and have joined rank with the supermarkets in makiing sure you never get 13 weeks without the 8 week break to reset the clock. 
Look to the Americans for the best chance of working for a firm that’ll look after you, and not take the ■■■■in the years to come. 
They won’t be pulling the plug if we pull out of Europe - regardless of what gets said. 
Think about it - Can you imagine a firm like FedEx shutting up shop in the UK, and selling their depots off at a loss to some currently tailed off competitor just because our government changes to a protectionist policy? If anythink, they’ll scramble to hang on in case they get thrown out with the bathwater! NO more cheap labour from the contininent opens the game right up you see… 
syramax:
this country is suffering cutbacks in the nhs, police and all manner of public services. apparently we cant afford to fund these services properly …can someone explain where the millions or is it billions that we give away as foreign aid comes from ■■? Im all for helping others (that need!! it) but charity begins at home . when I started school 50 yrs ago one of the first things I was given was a envelope to put some money in "to help a hungry African child" . 50 yrs later and we are still sending money ■■?? but nothings changed where has the money gone ■■as a parent /grandparent I hate to see kids in need ,but I am of the opinion that something isnt right as regards the whereabouts of the money sent.
The hungry African child has now had 15 kids of his own 
Sprogging because you can’t feed kids you’ve got, and not sprogging because you’re on over £66k and have had all benefits stopped is the total opposite to what natural selection intended.
You push against nature long enough, and it pushes back.
Expect a pandemic, war, or other dieback in the not too distant future that will of course affect mostly the overpopulated parts of the world. 
Saaamon:
So whats the answer then? Vote labour and make the public sector even bigger than it already is so the working class have more money in there pocket and forget we’ve in a massive amount of debt? The fact that the public sector is currently bigger than the private sector is quite worrying and until this changes and we start exporting more the countries’ econmey will not grow.
Contrary to popular believe the public sector only makes up approximately 25% of the workforce rest been private sector we are unable to fund properly police,nhs etc yet tax breaks to the richest and turning a blind eye to multi national companies tax avoidance/evasion schemes epitimises the main political parties within this country.
What do we all do about it(general public)? absolutely nothing because we are all feeble pathetic and just except what our political masters give us.Would it change if labour where returned to power very much not bankers will do as they please and do as they did before 2008 as they would under the conservatives and the resulting financial crash will be paid for by the poorest and less well off in society.
The only difference between labour and the conservatives if the conservatives where returned to power would be that the tories would do away with the minimum wage,labour probably would keep but hourly rate rises below rate of inflation
zeddman:
syramax:
this country is suffering cutbacks in the nhs, police and all manner of public services. apparently we cant afford to fund these services properly …can someone explain where the millions or is it billions that we give away as foreign aid comes from ■■? Im all for helping others (that need!! it) but charity begins at home . when I started school 50 yrs ago one of the first things I was given was a envelope to put some money in "to help a hungry African child" . 50 yrs later and we are still sending money ■■?? but nothings changed where has the money gone ■■as a parent /grandparent I hate to see kids in need ,but I am of the opinion that something isnt right as regards the whereabouts of the money sent.The hungry African child has now had 15 kids of his own
LOL. And them â– â– â– â– â– â– â– are getting to a breeding age.
tuckman:
Saaamon:
So whats the answer then? Vote labour and make the public sector even bigger than it already is so the working class have more money in there pocket and forget we’ve in a massive amount of debt? The fact that the public sector is currently bigger than the private sector is quite worrying and until this changes and we start exporting more the countries’ econmey will not grow.Contrary to popular believe the public sector only makes up approximately 25% of the workforce rest been private sector we are unable to fund properly police,nhs etc yet tax breaks to the richest and turning a blind eye to multi national companies tax avoidance/evasion schemes epitimises the main political parties within this country.
What do we all do about it(general public)? absolutely nothing because we are all feeble pathetic and just except what our political masters give us.Would it change if labour where returned to power very much not bankers will do as they please and do as they did before 2008 as they would under the conservatives and the resulting financial crash will be paid for by the poorest and less well off in society.
The only difference between labour and the conservatives if the conservatives where returned to power would be that the tories would do away with the minimum wage,labour probably would keep but hourly rate rises below rate of inflation
Like I said. We’re like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed crap all our lives.
The scary thing is that the so called ‘Conservatives’ both in the UK and the US are actually running a Communist type scam run on Communist lines,which contrary to true Fordist capitalism,just like any other Communist system,is all about a rich ruling parasitic elite taking all the wealth for itself by taking advantage of a captive exploited underpaid workforce.Which will eventually put the working classes,together with the two nations’ economies,back where they were in the 1920’s in real terms.
While the western working classes seem too stupid to realise what’s happening in that they’ve sleepwalked into a commie type nightmare,run by a bunch of undercover commie zb’s masquerading as so called conservative capitalists.When the fact is the US and the UK haven’t had true capitalism,of the type which Ford created,since at least the end of the 1970’s,when Thatcher and Reagan and their cronies in the banking system etc,were allowed to dismantle it to help make their Chinese Communist Party cronies richer and more powerful at the two nations’ expense.While making sure that the whole scam made the ruling western elite richer by way of the resulting kick backs. 
since the 60’s, wages have gone up about 20 times, and the cost of living has gone up 50 times.
To have the same standard of living today as the average HGV driver had in the 60’s, A driver earning £500 today, should actually be on £1250.00.
We could have that standard of living before Maggie got in, and we could have that standard of living before the banks allowed two people wages to be taken into account for a mortgage. All that did was double the value of houses and gain more interest for the banks, Who benefitted? the banks and the government, the people just got fleeced.