Right of way?

There is no right of way on UK roads.
People always forget that.

rambo19:
There is no right of way on UK roads.
People always forget that.

correct answer, it’s all down to common courtesy… simples :bulb:

shullbit:
who has right of way here if you have committed to the turn :smiley: google.com/maps/@53.3302503 … 312!8i6656 same coming back out, its an easy turn but its joe public that makes it difficult

Haha I’m so glad I dont deliver/collect from that industrial estate anymore :laughing: Nighmare someone always comes up even though they can see you swinging round

Sometimes nobody has right of way it requires a bit of courtesy from both sides, unfortunately something which is lacking with many drivers more from cars, vans, and taxis than professional drivers to be fair.

Such as at a mini roundabout where 3 vehicles at 3 exits all indicating right all turn up together. No one actually has right if way then. It just requires one driver to make the move and go and the other 2 to have the courtesy to allow it and start being buffoons over it.

Pedestrians have the right of way in certain situations, i.e zebra crossings & road junctions when clear.

Dave.

Tailschwing:
Despite having held my Class 2 for almost two years now, I still regularly encounter situations where I’m unsure who has right of way.

For example, I’ve read before that in a bottleneck situation with parked cars, the driver who is about to enter the bottleneck should give way to the driver about to exit. However, what if the latter driver is reversing? Does the entering car still have to give way or does the fact that he is travelling in the ‘right’ direction mean that the reversing driver is obliged to drive right back up the street to let him pass?

Parked cars or obstruction ahead on your side of road then give way to approaching traffic IE it’s an overtake type situation.However it’s obvious that traffic already established on the wrong side of the road in the hazard is the exception which proves the rule.Just like give way to traffic established on a roundabout can sometimes also mean give way to traffic entering from the left.IE whoever entered the roundabout first.

rambo19:
There is no right of way on UK roads.
People always forget that.

Only sensible answer.

Conor:

dieseldog999:
whoever has the biggest balls usually has right of way.

Yup. Politely but firmly let them know you’re going no matter what. Did a delivery in Crewe, burger van parked on corner of entrance, BMW and van visiting burger van parked in entrance so I couldn’t get in so put the wagon at 45 degrees across the road, tapped on the horn and put it in reverse gear so the beeper came on. People at burger van jumped in vehicles and moved them out the way. Reversed in, pap on horn, a cheery thankyou wave to the drivers. No bullying, no grief just “I’m reversing and you can either shift it or take a chance I won’t take its side out”

Same when approaching parked cars and its a bit narrow, I’ll stick my lorry in a position to go past them before I get to them. It’s usually enough to get all but the most die hard coming the other way to stop. I always give them a thumbs up or thank you wave though.

Your last para tells me you use the size of your vehicle to force your way through.
Who do you think you are? Just the type that gives others a bad name Bullyboy.

Jakethesnake, his last paragraph is little different to what two instructors taught me, which is take the space you need early and this lets others decide early on whether to hang back or continue coming. There’s a difference between forcing your way through, and encouraging someone else to hang back by taking up position early.

SJB:
Jakethesnake, his last paragraph is little different to what two instructors taught me, which is take the space you need early and this lets others decide early on whether to hang back or continue coming. There’s a difference between forcing your way through, and encouraging someone else to hang back by taking up position early.

All depends how you perceive the situation but I would say that he is forcing his way through by intimidating smaller vehicles.
Of course its good to take position early but Conor said his position would force most to stop.
That is not courteous driving. That is using the size of your vehicle to bully your way through.

Its very easy to misinterpret what you have been told sometimes.

jakethesnake:

SJB:
Jakethesnake, his last paragraph is little different to what two instructors taught me, which is take the space you need early and this lets others decide early on whether to hang back or continue coming. There’s a difference between forcing your way through, and encouraging someone else to hang back by taking up position early.

All depends how you perceive the situation but I would say that he is forcing his way through by intimidating smaller vehicles.
Of course its good to take position early but Conor said his position would force most to stop.
That is not courteous driving. That is using the size of your vehicle to bully your way through.

Its very easy to misinterpret what you have been told sometimes.

If you didn’t drive like that Jake, you would still be sat polishing your halo waiting for a gap, or until Rowley came the other way.

At least you had a day off for Christmas you miserable old goat :slight_smile:

jakethesnake:

SJB:
Jakethesnake, his last paragraph is little different to what two instructors taught me, which is take the space you need early and this lets others decide early on whether to hang back or continue coming. There’s a difference between forcing your way through, and encouraging someone else to hang back by taking up position early.

All depends how you perceive the situation but I would say that he is forcing his way through by intimidating smaller vehicles.
Of course its good to take position early but Conor said his position would force most to stop.
That is not courteous driving. That is using the size of your vehicle to bully your way through.

Its very easy to misinterpret what you have been told sometimes.

Here we go, Jake’s been away for a few days so he’s trawling through all the threads looking for a road safety and trucker’s attitudes thread to pontificate to us and show us mortals where we are going wrong.
‘‘All depends how we perceive the situation’’ he says, and surprise surprise Jakey perceives it as another trucker being a complete arse when it is clearly the opposite.

Conor is big enough and ugly enough to stand up for himself, but everybody else knew what he was on about but you as usual used it as a vehicle for your Trucknet ■■■■ crusade.
So here is how everybody else saw it on here except YOU. :unamused:

I was told by a wise old guy when I was a young lad learning to drive, to initially consider that everybody else on the road is an idiot until they prove themselves to the contrary, or until they get tf away from you.
A good bit of advice, that has made me a half decent driver, it propagates defensive driving making you alert and aware of potential negative scenarios, and makes you prevent them rather than see them happen. :bulb: …an example of which that Conor used. :bulb:

So…I’m going through a town approaching parked cars either side, and a car or even a truck is in the same situation which is approaching me opposite from a decent distance…what do I do?

Well firstly if it’s a truck, being old school I’d more or likely flash him to come on and I’d wait. (Yeh I know Jake, the trucker could be an idiot also :neutral_face: )

If a car I think ‘potential idiot’, we all know how they will not wait, and try and squeeze through gaps at every opportunity, and maybe he could squeeze through, but with a centimetre to spare each side, where he would more than likely scrape a parked car…(or me) or if he panicked, gridlocked the whole ■■■■ street. :unamused:

So …I prevent him from doing so by using more space available to me (for both of our own goods, and NOT to size bully :bulb: ) he waits as he sees EVEN HE idiot that he is, can’t cut me off, I go past him, smile, give him a wave making him think HE created the safer option, so he’s happy, I come across as friendly trucker, he changes his negative attitude towards us all, we exchange phone numbers and go out on a date…ok maybe not the last bit. :smiley:

So Jake I’ve just wasted 5 minutes of my life typing that, when everybody ■■■■ else on here knew exactly what Conor was on about, but you, true to form, chose to interpret it different to patronise us all. :smiling_imp:

(I really shouldn’t let him wind me up you know. :blush: :laughing: )

Still away Rob. In Vietnam at the moment in the sunshine. Interesting driving over here.
Anyway back to the point. I understand what you are saying but my interpretation of forcing other drivers to stop must be different to yours. Maybe he could have worded it better but to be honest I think he does what a lot do (bus drivers are good at intimidating as well) and that is using the size of his vehicle to force (his words) his way through.
Please don’t let me wind you up as that is not my intention.

jakethesnake:
Still away Rob. In Vietnam at the moment in the sunshine. Interesting driving over here.
Anyway back to the point. I understand what you are saying but my interpretation of forcing other drivers to stop must be different to yours. Maybe he could have worded it better but to be honest I think he does what a lot do (bus drivers are good at intimidating as well) and that is using the size of his vehicle to force (his words) his way through.
Please don’t let me wind you up as that is not my intention.

Just carry on winding me up Jake…I enjoy the arguments. :smiley:

robroy:

jakethesnake:
Still away Rob. In Vietnam at the moment in the sunshine. Interesting driving over here.
Anyway back to the point. I understand what you are saying but my interpretation of forcing other drivers to stop must be different to yours. Maybe he could have worded it better but to be honest I think he does what a lot do (bus drivers are good at intimidating as well) and that is using the size of his vehicle to force (his words) his way through.
Please don’t let me wind you up as that is not my intention.

Just carry on winding me up Jake…I enjoy the arguments. :smiley:

That’s the spirit. :laughing:

I agree it’s usually a matter of who’s the most assertive.

However, I’ve just started a new job. I love the hours, the pay, and finally have my own run after almost two years of agency work. If I occasionally have to bite my tongue and let a knobhead past I’ll do it if it’s the difference between getting my work done or not - time is tight atm as I’m still learning my route.

If I’ve done all my jobs and I’m on the way back then I’ll happily sit there as long as required.

Carryfast:

Tailschwing:
Despite having held my Class 2 for almost two years now, I still regularly encounter situations where I’m unsure who has right of way.

For example, I’ve read before that in a bottleneck situation with parked cars, the driver who is about to enter the bottleneck should give way to the driver about to exit. However, what if the latter driver is reversing? Does the entering car still have to give way or does the fact that he is travelling in the ‘right’ direction mean that the reversing driver is obliged to drive right back up the street to let him pass?

Parked cars or obstruction ahead on your side of road then give way to approaching traffic IE it’s an overtake type situation.**However it’s obvious that traffic already established on the wrong side of the road in the hazard is the exception which proves the rule.**Just like give way to traffic established on a roundabout can sometimes also mean give way to traffic entering from the left.IE whoever entered the roundabout first.

To a point. But one of my pet hates is drivers who then on the wrong side of the road because of parked vehicles take the p155 and don’t snick in to an appropriate space, that even includes truckies like me. I’ll get in. Of course what compounds it all then are the ■■■■ heads who follow blindly without looking ahead. And that can of course can provide the mother of off all **** ups as no one can go anywhere. Colinsburgh in Fife is good for this.

SJB:
Jakethesnake, his last paragraph is little different to what two instructors taught me, which is take the space you need early and this lets others decide early on whether to hang back or continue coming. There’s a difference between forcing your way through, and encouraging someone else to hang back by taking up position early.

Absolutely. The issue is who gets to the obstruction first. If you get to ‘your end of parked vehicles’ first then take the road, however if it’s your give way and its 50/50 the correct and polite thing to do is wait and let the traffic through, as they had the ‘right of way’ being the unobstructed side.

It is why they tell you when driving a large vehicle think ahead.

But they don’t tell car and van drivers.

yourhavingalarf:
I’ve come across…

This right of way situation a few times over the years and I always use the same technique.

Completely totally 100% utterly ignore them, avoid making eye contact, turn off your engine, lock the doors and if you have one, start reading a newspaper. There is no point in trying to reason with these type of self-righteous wee drinking Nazis. What happens is the other car drivers being held up will eventually force Mr or Mrs Upmyownbackside to reverse up.

It’s never failed me and I once got a 15 minute break out of it.

When I first started driving lorries in the early 60s (no special licence then) I had a job with a general haulage and removals company in London. The truck I had was a four-wheeler with a big body and I had a furniture delivery somewhere in the posh part of Chelsea. I turned into a street with cars double-parked all along, just as a Jaguar turned into the other end - we met in the middle and he was not going to give way even though there was an entrance behind him that he could have used.

I stayed in the cab and he came over and ordered me to back up and let him through. I kept it polite and explained why that wasn’t going to happen and he threatened to call the police. Eventually, I wound the window up and ostentatiously started reading my newspaper, making it clear that I was happy to stay all day.

Eventually, a cop turned up and after asking me where I was going, he told the Jag guy to get back in his car and went back up the road to make all the other cars that were stuck behind him get out of the way so I could get through