The RHA are in a loss why they were not ask what they thought about clamp release prices going up .Maybe because your a complete waste of time.
the trade body with responsibility for the HGV sector
despite the industry highlighting the lack of parking over the last 10 years, neither Kent nor the DfT have provided extra parking.
“In the longer term, we call on the DfT and local authorities in Kent – and indeed elsewhere – to show leadership on this issue and do all they can to urgently address the shortage of lorry parks.
In those 10 years have the RHA ever asked their members, why they haven’t included the overnight parking facilities for the visiting drivers that the operation of the distribution centre they’ve built rely on for its operation?
muckles:
the trade body with responsibility for the HGV sector
despite the industry highlighting the lack of parking over the last 10 years, neither Kent nor the DfT have provided extra parking.
“In the longer term, we call on the DfT and local authorities in Kent – and indeed elsewhere – to show leadership on this issue and do all they can to urgently address the shortage of lorry parks.
In those 10 years have the RHA ever asked their members, why they haven’t included the overnight parking facilities for the visiting drivers that the operation of the distribution centre they’ve built rely on for its operation?
Their answer is obvious, space costs money. Unless they have to, why do they want to spend money on employees that aren’t theirs when they could store a dozwn or so empty trailers instead?
RHA NEED to grow some balls, this industry is struggling in so many ways yet they don’t appear to be doing anything.
Captain Caveman 76:
muckles:
the trade body with responsibility for the HGV sector
despite the industry highlighting the lack of parking over the last 10 years, neither Kent nor the DfT have provided extra parking.
“In the longer term, we call on the DfT and local authorities in Kent – and indeed elsewhere – to show leadership on this issue and do all they can to urgently address the shortage of lorry parks.
In those 10 years have the RHA ever asked their members, why they haven’t included the overnight parking facilities for the visiting drivers that the operation of the distribution centre they’ve built rely on for its operation?
Their answer is obvious, space costs money. Unless they have to, why do they want to spend money on employees that aren’t theirs when they could store a dozwn or so empty trailers instead?
RHA NEED to grow some balls, this industry is struggling in so many ways yet they don’t appear to be doing anything.
I know what their answer will be, but it’s the RHA, and I assume therefore its members, who are complaining the government doesn’t provide overnight facilities and whether it’s actually real or not, they also complain that the government should do something about the driver shortage. Those are problems they’ve caused for themselves, so why should they expect the government and therefore us taxpayers to solve them.
muckles:
Captain Caveman 76:
muckles:
the trade body with responsibility for the HGV sector
despite the industry highlighting the lack of parking over the last 10 years, neither Kent nor the DfT have provided extra parking.
“In the longer term, we call on the DfT and local authorities in Kent – and indeed elsewhere – to show leadership on this issue and do all they can to urgently address the shortage of lorry parks.
In those 10 years have the RHA ever asked their members, why they haven’t included the overnight parking facilities for the visiting drivers that the operation of the distribution centre they’ve built rely on for its operation?
Their answer is obvious, space costs money. Unless they have to, why do they want to spend money on employees that aren’t theirs when they could store a dozwn or so empty trailers instead?
RHA NEED to grow some balls, this industry is struggling in so many ways yet they don’t appear to be doing anything.
I know what their answer will be, but it’s the RHA, and I assume therefore its members, who are complaining the government doesn’t provide overnight facilities and whether it’s actually real or not, they also complain that the government should do something about the driver shortage. Those are problems they’ve caused for themselves, so why should they expect the government and therefore us taxpayers to solve them.
I can see why you think any driver shortage is largely the fault of the RHA, in not offering desirable jobs.
But isn’t lack of overnight parking the fault of national and local government in their planning of main roads and warehousing?
Planning parking at a new warehouse isn’t a direct expense to we tax payers. Providing parking on a motorway may be cost paid by taxes, but I’d say it’s a worthwhile one.
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Franglais:
I can see why you think any driver shortage is largely the fault of the RHA, in not offering desirable jobs.
But isn’t lack of overnight parking the fault of national and local government in their planning of main roads and warehousing?
Planning parking at a new warehouse isn’t a direct expense to we tax payers. Providing parking on a motorway may be cost paid by taxes, but I’d say it’s a worthwhile one.Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Reading your post I was reminded of that new warehouse complex off the M18, the one with the monster Amazon depot. Given the amount of deliveries all them warehouses must get, there isn’t any (that I could see) provision for drivers to park up. Surely the simple answer is to make provision of drivers rest areas compulsory before planning permission is given for these places.
As always, everything is always someone else’s problem.
Where money is concerned with RHA Members its instinctive to avoid paying out more than they need to,if they can get away with it.
lolipop:
Where money is concerned with RHA Members its instinctive to avoid paying out more than they need to,if they can get away with it.
I agree. The RHA, like much of the haulage industry, adopts the mentality of wanting anything and everything while always expecting someone else to pay for it. Parking, driver training… its members are commercial enterprises that are in it for profit, so rather than expect the taxpayer’s dime to cover those expenses, they should get their hands in the own pockets.
muckles:
I know what their answer will be, but it’s the RHA, and I assume therefore its members, who are complaining the government doesn’t provide overnight facilities and whether it’s actually real or not, they also complain that the government should do something about the driver shortage. Those are problems they’ve caused for themselves, so why should they expect the government and therefore us taxpayers to solve them.
Captain Caveman 76:
Franglais:
I can see why you think any driver shortage is largely the fault of the RHA, in not offering desirable jobs.
But isn’t lack of overnight parking the fault of national and local government in their planning of main roads and warehousing?
Planning parking at a new warehouse isn’t a direct expense to we tax payers. Providing parking on a motorway may be cost paid by taxes, but I’d say it’s a worthwhile one.Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Reading your post I was reminded of that new warehouse complex off the M18, the one with the monster Amazon depot. Given the amount of deliveries all them warehouses must get, there isn’t any (that I could see) provision for drivers to park up. Surely the simple answer is to make provision of drivers rest areas compulsory before planning permission is given for these places.
As always, everything is always someone else’s problem.
This is something I’ve said before about planning permission for these large distribution complexes being linked to providing facilities for overnight parking for the trucks, considering they are reliant on them and mostly they’re just off the motorway network.
However there is nothing to stop the RHA working with its members to provide those facilities, without needing a change in planning permission, even it is just reserved for drivers delivering to their site.
But of course they won’t consider it as it will cost them money, even if that’s just in space lost for trailer parking, instead they’ll go to government and ask for them to build truckstops and even when the government actually say they’re going to build a parking area, it doesn’t get the go ahead due to protests by another load of Nimby’s.
Bear in mind the RHA members are mostly third-party hauliers…they don’t normally own distribution centres etc. However, I’ve always thought that the RHA could do more to encourage its members to offer away from base parking in each others’ yards. I think the Transport Association does this…but membership of it is by invitaiton only.
There is an argument that local authority planners should ask developers of industrial estates etc to always allocate one plot for a truck park with some reasonable facilities…but faced with a choice of doing that or going for an industrial unit that will provide jobs and pay more in rates, they will always go for the latter.
I recall Langdons used to have a public truck park on their premises many years ago, but I think it is now buried under the cold store.
Sometimes, where truck stops exist, they go out of business through lack of use. I remember the Gossington Truck Stop on the A38 near Dursely. It lost a lot of business when someone put a catering caravan in the layby at the entrance, and then it closed. I think it may have reopened since.
People preferred to park for nothing on the A38 laybys, in spite of the lack of facilities. Not blaming anyone…just saying that if facilities are provided they have to be paid for somehow.
The RHA has nothing to do with drivers or for drivers…its an organisation purely to protect Hauliers…hence the name Road Haulage Association…the organisations there for drivers are Unions, and theyre not worth a toss in this day and age,because drivers wont join…so thats why nothing is ever done for the drivers, and why theyre maxing out their hours with the minimum rests…rant over.