Retireing

tachograph:

Franglais:
Dunno about notification letters wot are they? :smiley:

Usually, towards the end of the year the DWP send out letters to let people know what their pensions will be from the following April, I generally get my letter around October/November but obviously they couldn’t do that last year because the decision to reinstate the triple lock wasn’t made until earlier this year.

I already know what my pension should be after April but it’s always good to have confirmation that the DWP agree :slight_smile:

Both myself and my wife received our confirmation letters about 2 weeks ago, if that’s any help.

yourhavingalarf:

dozy:
country’s a bloody joke

Living here…

Is optional.

Just sayin’

Yes and going to the council meeting & telling them what you think to this load of crap is also a option , which is what I’ll be doing

trucken:

tachograph:

Franglais:
Dunno about notification letters wot are they? :smiley:

Usually, towards the end of the year the DWP send out letters to let people know what their pensions will be from the following April, I generally get my letter around October/November but obviously they couldn’t do that last year because the decision to reinstate the triple lock wasn’t made until earlier this year.

I already know what my pension should be after April but it’s always good to have confirmation that the DWP agree :slight_smile:

Both myself and my wife received our confirmation letters about 2 weeks ago, if that’s any help.

Thanks for that

Quite recent then, I believe they send them out in order dependent on the first letter of the last name so I’ll probably get mine the end of April :grimacing:

SWEDISH BLUE:
I have now been retired for 3 years. I only get state pension and a small private pension.
I can not get Pension Credit as I am already retired. If I had applied for P/C 3 months before I retired, and got it, then there are so many more benefits that I wou;d be able to claim.
This is NOT my sob story, just my experience. I am posting this as a heads-up, as I am reading about others on here that are coming up io that age.

Think you need to look at the GOV.UK website PROPERLY for entitlement and eligibility for Pension Credit. Nothing on there about having to claim before you actually retire.

Winseer:

Conor:

Winseer:
The establishment have very cleverly made it so we manual/semi-skilled workers simply cannot retire now, which in time - will ease the shortages in the sector.

Hyperbolic nonsense. Your own spending habits and whether you did anything to save for your retirement do that. My parents and mother in law are both retired on pension credit, they’re managing. It ain’t fantastic but they’re not surviving on rice and beans. They don’t get to pay off the mortage on that…

I would imagine that many other people with paid-up company pensions - are going to find themselves in the same boat as me, i.e. postponing retirement now until such a time comes when we CAN afford to retire.

Depends on how much debt they’re in and how much lifestyle inflation they’ve had. If you can’t afford to retire on £300 a week plus whatever your missus gets, should you have one, so quite feasibly £500+ for just two people which is the take home pay for a £35k job with no mortgage/rent, travel to work costs etc not sure what to say.

I was talking about company pensions which those in the company have fully paid into over the years.
THESE are the ones that are already depleted by the amount UK pension fund managers BLEW out of the funds by
(1) Speculating on the fall of the Ruble, only for it to rise
(2) Buying forward Gas and Electricity at the top of the market - only for it to then fall back 85%
(3) Selling Gold, Shares, and other assets to cover the losses from (1) and (2) only for Shares and Gold to remain firm in the market…

I have no credit card debt or car finance myself, but a lot of other people do. This isn’t about me, but about all those others who don’t realize how they’ve been robbed as of yet.
I have a mortgage, a good one too - but that hasn’t stopped my payments going up due to the Bank of England losing control of interest rates to the “buy or not to buy this week” whims of the Chinese Delegation that buys up our bonds as they get freshly auctioned by the UK and other western treasuries every week.
If you’ve scrimped and saved over the years, been fed a ■■■■-and-bull story about the real reaons behind the Covid scamdemic, and are not even being informed now that your savings - you’ve spent, your pension - is disappearing before your very eyes, and you idiots think you can avoid the fallout from all this by pretending this is “someone else’s problem” not the problem for every working person who one day wants to retire, which is what this thread is supposed to be about…

As for me, half the battle in avoiding the pitfalls and events that have already happened - is to be prepared for what follows.
The most vulnerable group of workers right now - are those who were intending to retire by the end of this decade, combined with those who have taken a new full time job on within the last year… Why? - If there is a sudden, very sharp economic downturn later this year, then someone who’s only just got started in their new job - gets let go FIRST, no redundancy money.
Miss a mortgage payment now? - Repossession proceedings - are likely to be done at an accelerated rate, now that banks are having a bit of a cashflow situation themselves…

“You’ll own nothing - and be happy” is well under way, but “Happy” like “The Brexit Dividend” is the pot of gold at the end of that rainbow - that we’ll strangely never ever quite reach…

1929/1932 is almost upon us.
After, the only jobs going will be working for local businesspeople, who are now out of reach of local law enforcement. Where do you think the 1930’s “Gangsters” originally rose from?

We’ve already had the lockdown time, where we find out who can get by on the least… Now it’s time to find out who can get by on double that pay, but triple the cost of living…
Overall, everyone’s standard of living is likely to drop by between a third and a half…

“Depression” - again not about me here - is what you feel when you COULD have done something about what was coming, got warned enough times by people like myself - but did nothing and now it’s too late to recover… The thing to do is lobby your MP to raise these issues before they take full effect…

There’s always a glimmer of hope of course, that Sunak knows how to drive here, and suddenly announces a collapse in energy prices (to bring them in line with wholesale prices NOW) and a drop-back in BoE interest rates too, since they are only rising to “combat inflation” which is now supposedly OVER…

4 weeks left for Sunak to make his winning move, 6 weeks until the “Post Easter” period downturn begins, if he DOESN’T act.

I dunno what happens if Sunak falls in the meantime, as much will depend on who his successor is. It won’t be Boris…

The point I’m making here, is that Inflation has been weaponized, and the Triple Lock - isn’t doing what it is supposed to have done in protecting people’s standard of living. This is easy to do, by massaging the data whenever it suits the ruling powers… Long-term benefit claimants - stand to lose the most of all, but the general mindset is that “I’m alright Jack” people - won’t care if the government does that…

It is even a scandal that Pension Funds (Company, not “State”) were allowed to buy bonds on margin, which effectively turns the fund into nothing more than a speculator betting on lower interest rates, which multiplies losses if interest rates then rise instead, which is what has happened. We don’t have the full list of Western pension funds - that lost a packet shorting the Ruble as of yet, neither.

It is almost as if Liz Truss + Kwarteng were “allowed” to be the government for 5 minutes so they could take the blame for what was already in the pipeline post-lockdown effect, as when Boris went, I was as surprised as anyone that Sunak didn’t become PM at THAT point…

Now we know.
People in high places - think the sun shines out of his arse, but then again the Deep State-Friendly media would offer such support, wouldn’t they?

It is like the CIA perpetuating acts of war/terrorism against Germany and Norway…
“Ukraine Friendly Sabateurs” - My arse!

We have been sleepwalked into a war with Russia - that means WWIII has already started.
Who will survive?
Whilst it will be a while until Putin gets around to using nukes - that’s little comfort if that particular future - is set as “Inevitable” - is it? That future, fortunately is NOT set yet. ‘Lies’ would have it so, but by this point people make up their own minds as to what are “Lies” or not.

Daniel 8.jpg

^^^^^ This refers to the future Antichrist, and I don’t believe that this character is “Putin” - but rather one of the other world leaders… Sunak is on the shortlist, as are a number of other people, including the Pope and senior members of the both sides of the English-speaking Western World’s political Aisle… “Uniparty” anyone?

“A bird in the hand - is worth two in the bush”.
Got an opportunity to take your pension early?
If you get offered 90% of what you thought you’d get now - that’ll likely be a better deal than the <50% of what you expected later - put it that way.

Cuckoo

Nothing more needs to be said other than absolutely cuckoo.

Anyhow I shall stick to topic and not the deranged ramblings of an absolutely schizophrenic crackpot derail my input to the thread further.

I’m frankly amazed that info that many better-heeled people than any of us would normally pay for - gets derided so on here.

It’s free, and surely it is bad for to critique “free stuff”, especially if you’re a left-leaning person who normally chases anything with a “Free” pricetag on it…

Mind you, the same could be said of “Religious Faith” - something else the Left tends to shun… That’s “Free” as well…

What DO you lot believe in then?

It doesn’t seem to be “Retirement” much… I’ve posted my suggestions and advice for things like the “Timing” of retirement and “Financial Suitability”… What advice has anyone else got, other than “don’t listen to anything Winseer says”…? If you really know, or even think you know better - then FFS state what that alternative plum advice IS!.. :unamused: :confused: :astonished:

Winseer:
I’m frankly amazed that info that many better-heeled people than any of us would normally pay for - gets derided so on here.

It’s free, and surely it is bad for to critique “free stuff”, especially if you’re a left-leaning person who normally chases anything with a “Free” pricetag on it…

Mind you, the same could be said of “Religious Faith” - something else the Left tends to shun… That’s “Free” as well…

What DO you lot believe in then?

It doesn’t seem to be “Retirement” much… I’ve posted my suggestions and advice for things like the “Timing” of retirement and “Financial Suitability”… What advice has anyone else got, other than “don’t listen to anything Winseer says”…? If you really know, or even think you know better - then FFS state what that alternative plum advice IS!.. :unamused: :confused: :astonished:

I don’t generally read what you write because you are on my ignore list. I gather you have been writing essays in the last couple of days. I have summoned the required energy and fortitude to read your last post and couldn’t get any further than a few lines of your other posts.

I expect that for many what you are talking about is a pipe-dream due to circumstances encountered during their working lives, such as being on low income or for an employer without a good pension scheme. You seem to feel generally aggrieved (with a lot of things) when you are in a far better situation than some. Okay, you perceive that it could have been and should have been better for you. It wasn’t, and that is all there is to it.

The choice is either work on or don’t. When you do retire, take what you have and make the best of it. If you are fit and healthy enough, driving does seem to be an occupation where one can carry on working ad-hoc, so take the positives.

Retirement - is for those that can afford it.
With today’s “Cost of living Crisis” now in full swing - that number of people that’ll EVER retire - deminishes by the day, with the ones thinking they have a cushy pension plan - being the ones most likely to find a depleted pension pot by the time they get to hang up their keys over the next few years in particular…

The Lockdown proved that a lot of us can manage on a third less money than usual, providing one cuts overheads such as “commute costs” and “eating out” with it.

Even gold-plated pension schemes - don’t pay out 100% or more of final salary however… Worth to consider, if your current working patterns have you putting in regular “overtime” because you cannot make ends meet without it.

Another way to retire is to obtain an “alternative income” that doesn’t involve tying up one’s cash for years and years…

Not much point talking about that though, as the main angle of returns - diminishes the more people are in on such production of “private income”… Where the past “Freedom of Movement” has been a boon for incoming workers - “Freedom of FInancial Movement” I suggest is now a means to keep one’s money safe, and yourself along with it.

Winseer:
Even gold-plated pension schemes - don’t pay out 100% or more of final salary however… Worth to consider, if your current working patterns have you putting in regular “overtime” because you cannot make ends meet without it.

It sounds as if you want to be on about the same money in retirement as you have been when working. Even final salary schemes are based on a percentage of final salary.

It would suggest a non-prudent approach to end up with a massive pension and still have large outgoings. As others have tried to explain in the thread above, it would be normal to have less outgoings later in life.

As regards overtime, I do what my employer asks of me and don’t go seeking it. When a basic wage is presented to me I want that to cover my outgoings, everything else is a bonus. I call that living within my means.

We’ve started on a plan of refurbishment of our house ( kitchen / electrics / bathroom ) etc before retirement , last thing you want to be doing is spending 1,000,s on the house out of your pension , put money away for a new car as well ( will revert too 1 ) ,
The issue as always is would the money have been better spent enjoying yourself now , may not even make retirement !

New bed coming,tomorrow afternoon…and that’s me done.
■■■■ work.
I’ve done my 35 years…and more besides,when you work the hours,out.

toonsy:
Cuckoo

Nothing more needs to be said other than absolutely cuckoo.

Anyhow I shall stick to topic and not the deranged ramblings of an absolutely schizophrenic crackpot derail my input to the thread further.

Can’t figure out WHO you mean!!! Lol

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commonrail:
New bed coming,tomorrow afternoon…and that’s me done.
[zb] work.
I’ve done my 35 years…and more besides,when you work the hours,out.

Forgot the bed , will get my order in for 2028