Remote driving.

Would you still be a HGV driver if driving jobs went the way of remote driving via your computer & a set of monitors sat at a PC desk? “Remote driving technology enables a person to drive a vehicle from a remote location. It has seen rapid advancements in recent years, and is already used in controlled environments, such as warehouses and farms.” fleetnews.co.uk/news/compan … egislation

Not happening any time soon. I do sim racing and there’s a hell of a lot of input you don’t get which you do get driving a real vehicle that you use when driving, especially in a lorry to judge how it handles with the load you’re carrying and how that load affects the vehicle on cornering. Basically anythng you feel through your backside sat on the seat you’re not getting, that “bloody hell this feels heavy” as you set off after hooking up a trailer you’re not going to get. You’re also not going to feel things like the wind trying to put your truck on it’s side when going over the A66 or Shap in bad weather. Talking of weather you’re going to be knackered in snow because it won’t be possible to keep the cameras clear.

Whilst it’s OK for things like forklifts and those massive earth movers that don’t move that quickly and basically feel the same for every load they’re carrying and for tractors moving around a field at low speeds with little to hit it’s no good at the moment for driving a vehicle whose weight can change by 28 tonnes and where you can have loads that are constantly moving in transit such as bulk liquids at speeds up to 56MPH on busy roads.

I dont think the public will allow a remote controlled HGV to be driving past mums/prams and school kids etc.

Imagine there’s a lag in the display (like it happens in some games?). There has to be very low latency/ high speed internet/ bandwidth priority etc in every corner of the country for a every valley, every depot, every road etc. Not gonna happen.

Maybe some form of smart truck that is semi autonomous on the motorways.

Once again the answer why there will always be a manual working human held responsible for actual control of the thing, the designers and makers as in a recent mass medical experiment absolved of all responsibility.

No of course i wouldn’t be idiot enough to attempt to drive a truck via a souped up gameboy :unamused: , i’ve been on a full size professional use truck simulator, that was just a bigger gameboy.

It seems a preposterous idea. If the driver is sat remotely, why not be sat in the vehicle?

I suppose if lorries ever become fully autonomus, it makes sense to have one person sat at a bank of 20 monitors, overseeing 20 HGVs, to troubleshoot, reboot, steer the things off the grass, or whatever. But I doubt there’d be one full time driver to one HGV driving the thing all day from a computer screen. Doesn’t make sense.

And to answer the question, no, I wouldn’t still drive an HGV if I was doing it from a computer remotely. That would feel like exercising my conjugal rights by text message.

ezydriver:
It seems a preposterous idea. If the driver is sat remotely, why not be sat in the vehicle?

I suppose if lorries ever become fully autonomus, it makes sense to have one person sat at a bank of 20 monitors, overseeing 20 HGVs, to troubleshoot, reboot, steer the things off the grass, or whatever. But I doubt there’d be one full time driver to one HGV driving the thing all day from a computer screen. Doesn’t make sense.

And to answer the question, no, I wouldn’t still drive an HGV if I was doing it from a computer remotely. That would feel like exercising my conjugal rights by text message.

Wage rates in the Philippines for example are lower, while delivering at Tesco Goole, say.

Absolutely not.

  1. As Juddian implied I’m not taking the blame for a software fault.
  2. More importantly I drive because I don’t like being behind a desk, I enjoy my own space and travelling and meeting people (in small doses, time slots) [emoji38]
  3. Also I do like controlling the vehicle and yes you need the real feel as someone stated as weather And conditions and weight in vehicle changes.

Sometimes a human can see what another human (idiot) is about to do on a motorway before they do it.

This morning guy in lane four came past me ( lane 3 in a van today) into lane 2 it was obvs he was heading for slip road and cut straight in front of a truck in lane 1 just after the 1 marker!

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lancpudn:
and is already used in controlled environments, such as warehouses and farms.

It may well work in air conditioned portacabins in the Nevada desert for “pilots” to rain down very expensive death onto cavemen, but it’s a few generations away from negotiating Hanger Lane at 8 am on a Monday morning I suggest.

If its like my PS5 setup then why not? The proviso being that I’d be sat in my pants with pornhub on an additional screen and a box of tissues to hand.

sorry for burning that image into people’s minds

toonsy:
If its like my PS5 setup then why not? The proviso being that I’d be sat in my pants with pornhub on an additional screen and a box of tissues to hand.

sorry for burning that image into people’s minds

So it would be no different to you driving now with the curtain half pulled over the offside window :open_mouth: :wink: :unamused: :blush:

Beau Nydel:

toonsy:
If its like my PS5 setup then why not? The proviso being that I’d be sat in my pants with pornhub on an additional screen and a box of tissues to hand.

sorry for burning that image into people’s minds

So it would be no different to you driving now with the curtain half pulled over the offside window :open_mouth: :wink: :unamused: :blush:

The only difference would be the working from bit :laughing:

Remote driving is done in the gold and iron ore minefields of Western Australia, teams of drivers are hours away from the mine driving huge dump trucks. This saves having to fly in the teams of drivers and setup accommodation facilities for them

Huh, when I suggested this during lockdown I was lauughed at :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :smiley: :smiley: :laughing:

Muddy K:
I dont think the public will allow a remote controlled HGV to be driving past mums/prams and school kids etc

At least 50% of people drive/behave like there isn’t a human being behind the wheel of a truck as it is.

If I park the truck away from base do I get night out money? If so put me down for tramping.

Jimmy McNulty:
If I park the truck away from base do I get night out money? If so put me down for tramping.

Yes, but if the curtain gets slashed, you’re the one that gets bent over.

Thing with remote driving be nobody sat on the truck physically. So the truck can operate 24 7 .
No stopping for a break no toilet breaks etc.
Only have to stop to be refulled/ loaded offloaded how ever that will work.
As gurnatee the people controlling them won’t have tacho regs having to stop every 4 half hours etc be sat in a nice warm comfy office finish at 2 next shifts starts at 2 and just takes over control of said truck.
So technically a truck could go lands end John ogroats non stop apart from fuelling up
Be re loaded then head back again non stop

chooch:
Huh, when I suggested this during lockdown I was lauughed at :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :smiley: :smiley: :laughing:

If you’d care…

To suggest it again, we’ll still larf at you.

edd1974:
Thing with remote driving be nobody sat on the truck physically. So the truck can operate 24 7 .
No stopping for a break no toilet breaks etc.
Only have to stop to be refulled/ loaded offloaded how ever that will work.
As gurnatee the people controlling them won’t have tacho regs having to stop every 4 half hours etc be sat in a nice warm comfy office finish at 2 next shifts starts at 2 and just takes over control of said truck.
So technically a truck could go lands end John ogroats non stop apart from fuelling up
Be re loaded then head back again non stop

By the this no driver thing becomes a reality-never-the truck won’t have to stop for refuelling, the nuclear reactor will last far longer than LE to JoG :unamused:
Ahhh technology :smiley:

the maoster:

lancpudn:
and is already used in controlled environments, such as warehouses and farms.

It may well work in air conditioned portacabins in the Nevada desert for “pilots” to rain down very expensive death onto cavemen, but it’s a few generations away from negotiating Hanger Lane at 8 am on a Monday morning I suggest.

I’ve said similar before. Build me an autonomous truck that can deliver 18 tonnes of feed to a Welsh hill farm on a wet day, and I’ll start to believe they’re possible.