kr79:
Just because they don’t do flat work don’t mean there’s no lots that do. I’d go for it if I was you everyone would remember you as the bloke with the first tilt they had seen in years.
But they wouldn’t know the difference if it was stripped to a flat.
Carryfast:
I’d be a bit zb’d off if I wanted to work for them and I’d have listened to all the advice here instead of having bought a cheap tilt that no one wanted.
I will just say that there is no such thing as “a cheap tilt that no-one wants”. A tilt trailer that has been out of MOT for a decade will be worth as much as a Tautliner with a new MOT, tilts are very sought after by restorers.
Carryfast:
I’d be a bit zb’d off if I wanted to work for them and I’d have listened to all the advice here instead of having bought a cheap tilt that no one wanted.
I will just say that there is no such thing as “a cheap tilt that no-one wants”. A tilt trailer that has been out of MOT for a decade will be worth as much as a Tautliner with a new MOT, tilts are very sought after by restorers.
That and the prices here seem to show that it’s cheaper to lease a flat or a curtainsider than a tilt and a euroliner is about the same as a tilt which would obviously be a no brainer if the earnings potential of a curtainsider,flat or a euroliner is better.
It is the nature of business that if operating a flat trailer meant earning significantly more than operating a curtainsider, that hauliers would move towards flat trailers in ever increasing numbers, which would then push flat trailer rates downwards until the work paid no more than operating a curtainsider. That is fairly basic secondary school economics.
I think it’s fair to say that there are far fewer flat trailers in use than there were when I started in 1986. They are fine for specialist work but it is illogical to run flat trailers doing work which could be carried out in curtainsiders because the time spent roping and sheeting is more valuable in the longer term than the cost saving of buying a trailer without a superstructure.
Harry Monk:
It is the nature of business that if operating a flat trailer meant earning significantly more than operating a curtainsider, that hauliers would move towards flat trailers in ever increasing numbers, which would then push flat trailer rates downwards until the work paid no more than operating a curtainsider. That is fairly basic secondary school economics.
I think it’s fair to say that there are far fewer flat trailers in use than there were when I started in 1986. They are fine for specialist work but it is illogical to run flat trailers doing work which could be carried out in curtainsiders because the time spent roping and sheeting is more valuable in the longer term than the cost saving of buying a trailer without a superstructure.
got a one tipping in glasgow in morning harry but dont think i will ask on here for reload contacts lol
Harry Monk:
It is the nature of business that if operating a flat trailer meant earning significantly more than operating a curtainsider, that hauliers would move towards flat trailers in ever increasing numbers, which would then push flat trailer rates downwards until the work paid no more than operating a curtainsider. That is fairly basic secondary school economics.
I think it’s fair to say that there are far fewer flat trailers in use than there were when I started in 1986. They are fine for specialist work but it is illogical to run flat trailers doing work which could be carried out in curtainsiders because the time spent roping and sheeting is more valuable in the longer term than the cost saving of buying a trailer without a superstructure.
^ This.
Although that just reinforces my view that there’s still probably a case for the flexibilty of the tilt in that environment.I’m obviously not the only one with that view.
If he hasnt loaded that flat trl by now i fear he may have missed the opurtunity,i have never had a backload for a flat nay further down than bridgewater, but if there are any viable contacts im keen to know them !
We used to load concrete sections from Cornwall , but that was many years ago and cant remember the name of the company or where they were, but it was way down
Know that one, there was a place further down we used to load- only did it a couple times myself when we was running the pilings to Penhale and it wasnt that far away but the memory is failing me for the details
So can we add tilt to Carryfasts list of obsessions? You do make me laugh with your obsession with anything that’s had its day. Have you not heard of Euroliners?
Dan Punchard:
On a more positive note atleast while the opinion of the likes of Harry is that flats are what ever was previously mentioned on here the flatbed hauliers jobs are safe .
I saw one of yours today, A23 northbound near Croydon, looked very smart too. Only got a quick glance but it looked like maybe Stressline T-beams on the back?
Floorbeams and flat trailers do work perfectly together although there’s a finite amount of those that need pulling about…
OK, I’ll ask him on Monday. They won’t be cheap though, I seem to recall he sold the last one for £6,000, he’s sold three or four to the same bloke who restores them for the truck show circuit.