About bloody time and can we have camera enforcement as well.Nothing give me more of the hump then
the idiots that ignore red x .
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If it upset you tough read the highway code.Iam talking about people who ignore the red x
I agree it is about time something was done about drivers ignoring the lane closed markers on motorways, lets hope they actually issue the fixed penalties though.
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.
Captain Caveman 76:
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.
At least if its done early it should like it does most of the time reduces the bunching up of traffic a couple of hundred yards from the closure as the majority are in the correct lanes, only muppets who are in a minority ignore red x signs and they deserve to get punished for it.
They should start using the gantries with cameras on to catch them, along with the muppets that use the hardshoulder when it isnt in use.
northern ireland dont have much of a motorway network,but in the last 10 years i have never ever once seen anyone take the slightest notice of the red X gantry signs.ive never seen anyone take the slightest notice of anything other than crack on at whatever speed you were doing till you see something to make you slow down or merge etc…it dont seem to make any difference either way coming into or exiting belfast etc,lit up/flashing or whatever,they just get completely ignored by cars and trucks alike,ive never known or heard of anyone getting a letter either as well as just completely ignoring them myself countless times. no doubt sooner or later someone will activate them for whatever reason but happy days till then.
I was going to post about the advert on the radio reference the red X,i’m assuming its the highways agency that have done the ad,and I did think about whether they thought we were children the way the ad goes,but unfortunately drivers in general do ignore the red X,and if anything has happened then you get problems further up when the ignorant drivers try to move in to your lane at the last moment when they spot the blue lights,causing more jams
weeto:
Captain Caveman 76:
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.At least if its done early it should like it does most of the time reduces the bunching up of traffic a couple of hundred yards from the closure as the majority are in the correct lanes, only muppets who are in a minority ignore red x signs and they deserve to get punished for it.
They should start using the gantries with cameras on to catch them, along with the muppets that use the hardshoulder when it isnt in use.
The red X isn’t supposed to be used as an advanced warning.It means stop don’t pass this point in this lane.While advanced warning ( wicket signs ) means ( should mean ) lane closure ahead merge now.IE it’s an advanced closure not advanced warning of a closure.
The problem is that too many people and the authorities think that merging at the point of the obstruction ( or therefore also at the red X ) makes more use of road space. 
The result being deliberately not enough advanced warning put out and people trying to merge at or beyond the red X.IE proof that the bs zip merging at the obstruction idea doesn’t work.
Captain Caveman 76:
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.
Red X is usually serious. The ones that annoy me are where there’s a speed reduction for miles on a stretch of ‘smart’ motorway and matrix signs saying “Incident, slow down” and there’s no incident. Or where there’s a queue in a slip road and nothing on the main carriageway but still a 40mph speed limit on both.
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Carryfast:
weeto:
Captain Caveman 76:
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.At least if its done early it should like it does most of the time reduces the bunching up of traffic a couple of hundred yards from the closure as the majority are in the correct lanes, only muppets who are in a minority ignore red x signs and they deserve to get punished for it.
They should start using the gantries with cameras on to catch them, along with the muppets that use the hardshoulder when it isnt in use.The red X isn’t supposed to be used as an advanced warning.It means stop don’t pass this point in this lane.While advanced warning ( wicket signs ) means ( should mean ) lane closure ahead merge now.IE it’s an advanced closure not advanced warning of a closure.
The problem is that too many people and the authorities think that merging at the point of the obstruction ( or therefore also at the red X ) makes more use of road space.
No, merging two miles (or three kiometers) before the closure, and everybody going single file with a perfectly serviceable lane next to them, makes sense. Why not six miles before the closure? 10? Why have multiple lanes at all?
the nodding donkey:
Carryfast:
weeto:
Captain Caveman 76:
The problem is, people don’t believe them. Putting up red x’s two miles before the roadworks and channeling motorway traffic into one lane too early simply encourages people to ignore them. Unless the mismanagement of motorways stops, this’ll be nothing more than another cash cow.At least if its done early it should like it does most of the time reduces the bunching up of traffic a couple of hundred yards from the closure as the majority are in the correct lanes, only muppets who are in a minority ignore red x signs and they deserve to get punished for it.
They should start using the gantries with cameras on to catch them, along with the muppets that use the hardshoulder when it isnt in use.The red X isn’t supposed to be used as an advanced warning.It means stop don’t pass this point in this lane.While advanced warning ( wicket signs ) means ( should mean ) lane closure ahead merge now.IE it’s an advanced closure not advanced warning of a closure.
The problem is that too many people and the authorities think that merging at the point of the obstruction ( or therefore also at the red X ) makes more use of road space.
No, merging two miles (or three kiometers) before the closure, and everybody going single file with a perfectly serviceable lane next to them, makes sense. Why not six miles before the closure? 10? Why have multiple lanes at all?
We have multiple lanes for overtaking purposes only at all other times use lane 1.We obviously can’t have overtaking on the approach to lane closures because that stops safe merging of traffic in the closed lane/s.While waiting to merge until the obstruction means that the merging process has to be done at crawling speed because the traffic in the closed lane can no longer maintain its speed without running into the obstruction or passing the red X.As it could if the merging process was carried out well in advance of the closure.IE wicket signs at around 1 mile should do it.Just as in the case of advanced warning of exit slip roads to allow safe merging of exiting traffic without the need for traffic to merge at crawling pace.On that note let me guess the ones who leave merging with lane 1 to exit the motorway until reaching the junction are just doing it to maximise road space.