My salary is acceptable as it is, for the hours I work, but the overtime rate offered is laughable, and as a consequence I don’t work overtime.
bald bloke:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out moneyAnd how many hours do you put in for that ?
if you put the hours in you can earn good money, take 650 home , running in Saturday, job a piece of cake, you don’t get rushed, they kno the drivers who are there to earn and those that don’t, some are happy doing 50 hours and there the ones that winge
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ryan011284:
bald bloke:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out moneyAnd how many hours do you put in for that ?
if you put the hours in you can earn good money, take 650 home , running in Saturday, job a piece of cake, you don’t get rushed, they kno the drivers who are there to earn and those that don’t, some are happy doing 50 hours and there the ones that winge
It’s hardly ‘‘good money’’ mate if you have to work hours that in real terms are a week and a half, to earn what equates to a week’s wage is it.
In that context whether the job is a piece of cake and rushed or not is totally irellavent aint it.
Just think what it could/should be if they didn’t pay you a derisory overtime rate. 
Still if their drivers are saying they are on ‘‘good money’’ on the pay structure that they are on, there will never be a reason to improve it will there. 
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out money
60 hours at your rates is 28k…and doing that every week is illegal, but hey nobody bothers about wtd now do they?
TiredAndEmotional:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out money60 hours at your rates is 28k…and doing that every week is illegal, but hey nobody bothers about wtd now do they?
And is he counting his night out money as wages?(which they are not)
Edit…just noticed he obviously isn’t. 
I believe they pay a £25 “attendance” allowance, which on 50 hours equates to 50p on the hourly rate. Obviously, if off sick or on holiday this isn’t paid.
TiredAndEmotional:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out money60 hours at your rates is 28k…and doing that every week is illegal, but hey nobody bothers about wtd now do they?
I get paid around 60 hours per week every week without fail. My WTD hours however vary between 40 and 50 hours per week. Perfectly legal and quite easy to do if you put some thought into it.
3 days at 12 and 1/ 4 hours =36 3/4
2 days at 13 =26
Total 62 and 3/4 hours includes POA but not 45 minute breaks probably as a rough guess have between 4 and 8 hours poa a week
50 hours times 8.92 = 446
12 3/4 at 9.25 =117.93
total 446+117.93 = 563.93
times 52 weeks =29324
But yes I have misled I omitted the £5 per day attendance allowance (not much but better than a kick in the nuts I guess)
comes to about 1200 over 48 weeks having deducted 4 weeks holiday
Night out money not included
Hope this helps
So as a driver of theirs what are your views on the difference between standard rate and overtime rate, do you think it is actually worth your while working overtime at all.
Do you also as well as the other guy think you are on ‘good money’ bearing in mind you have to work a lot of hours to make up a liveable wage.
Not taking the ■■■■ or having a go mate, just interested in your views as one of their drivers.
the maoster:
TiredAndEmotional:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out money60 hours at your rates is 28k…and doing that every week is illegal, but hey nobody bothers about wtd now do they?
I get paid around 60 hours per week every week without fail. My WTD hours however vary between 40 and 50 hours per week. Perfectly legal and quite easy to do if you put some thought into it.
Indeed…but I was referring to the example given which as stated is illegal.
mattecube:
3 days at 12 and 1/ 4 hours =36 3/4
2 days at 13 =26Total 62 and 3/4 hours includes POA but not 45 minute breaks probably as a rough guess have between 4 and 8 hours poa a week
50 hours times 8.92 = 446
12 3/4 at 9.25 =117.93total 446+117.93 = 563.93
times 52 weeks =29324But yes I have misled I omitted the £5 per day attendance allowance (not much but better than a kick in the nuts I guess)
comes to about 1200 over 48 weeks having deducted 4 weeks holidayNight out money not included
Hope this helps
Do they take breaks off you mate? And if so how much, 45 minutes?
robroy:
So as a driver of theirs what are your views on the difference between standard rate and overtime rate, do you think it is actually worth your while working overtime at all.Do you also as well as the other guy think you are on ‘good money’ bearing in mind you have to work a lot of hours to make up a liveable wage.
Not taking the ■■■■ or having a go mate, just interested in your views as one of their drivers.
My view is this
As an employer they are good
The kit is altogether,defects are dealt with.
They do not condone or expect bent running
Parking paid for and they have a network of hauliers whos yards you can get booked into for the night,we are not allowed to use msas and only park in laybys ,ind estates if empty or low value loads blocks paper rolls etc
Pay what do I think… yes we would all like higher rates and I have yet to meet anyone on a lower rate than me and many in the rdcs are not getting out of bed for less than 1000 a week yeah right!
Input hours yes maybe but its better to get a slightly higher rate and put the hours in than finish early and sit in a truckstop listening to the driver who wants to tell you every delivery he has made since he saved 10 drivers on the Zeebrugge tragedy.
there are ways of achieving this
The jobs not hard,the kit is altogether, as an employer if you are ok with them they are ok with you, I can manage happily on the money
eagerbeaver:
mattecube:
3 days at 12 and 1/ 4 hours =36 3/4
2 days at 13 =26Total 62 and 3/4 hours includes POA but not 45 minute breaks probably as a rough guess have between 4 and 8 hours poa a week
50 hours times 8.92 = 446
12 3/4 at 9.25 =117.93total 446+117.93 = 563.93
times 52 weeks =29324But yes I have misled I omitted the £5 per day attendance allowance (not much but better than a kick in the nuts I guess)
comes to about 1200 over 48 weeks having deducted 4 weeks holidayNight out money not included
Hope this helps
Do they take breaks off you mate? And if so how much, 45 minutes?
My calculations exclude a 45 minute break therefore if you have done a 13 hour day you will get paid 12 and 3/4
TiredAndEmotional:
the maoster:
TiredAndEmotional:
mattecube:
I will earn about 29k no weekends plus night out money60 hours at your rates is 28k…and doing that every week is illegal, but hey nobody bothers about wtd now do they?
I get paid around 60 hours per week every week without fail. My WTD hours however vary between 40 and 50 hours per week. Perfectly legal and quite easy to do if you put some thought into it.
Indeed…but I was referring to the example given which as stated is illegal.
Which example?
mattecube:
eagerbeaver:
mattecube:
3 days at 12 and 1/ 4 hours =36 3/4
2 days at 13 =26Total 62 and 3/4 hours includes POA but not 45 minute breaks probably as a rough guess have between 4 and 8 hours poa a week
50 hours times 8.92 = 446
12 3/4 at 9.25 =117.93total 446+117.93 = 563.93
times 52 weeks =29324But yes I have misled I omitted the £5 per day attendance allowance (not much but better than a kick in the nuts I guess)
comes to about 1200 over 48 weeks having deducted 4 weeks holidayNight out money not included
Hope this helps
Do they take breaks off you mate? And if so how much, 45 minutes?
My calculations exclude a 45 minute break therefore if you have done a 13 hour day you will get paid 12 and 3/4
Cheers Matt. (I assume the 12 3/4 is a typo and you mean 12 1/4?)
eagerbeaver:
mattecube:
eagerbeaver:
mattecube:
3 days at 12 and 1/ 4 hours =36 3/4
2 days at 13 =26Total 62 and 3/4 hours includes POA but not 45 minute breaks probably as a rough guess have between 4 and 8 hours poa a week
50 hours times 8.92 = 446
12 3/4 at 9.25 =117.93total 446+117.93 = 563.93
times 52 weeks =29324But yes I have misled I omitted the £5 per day attendance allowance (not much but better than a kick in the nuts I guess)
comes to about 1200 over 48 weeks having deducted 4 weeks holidayNight out money not included
Hope this helps
Do they take breaks off you mate? And if so how much, 45 minutes?
My calculations exclude a 45 minute break therefore if you have done a 13 hour day you will get paid 12 and 3/4
Cheers Matt. (I assume the 12 3/4 is a typo and you mean 12 1/4?)
Apoligies indeed I do just threw the typo in to test you…you passed lol
Just as a side note on this subject, I assume you are aware the minimum wage in April 2018 will be £8.05.
Any sign of a pay increase? 
eagerbeaver:
:lol: Just as a side note on this subject, I assume you are aware the minimum wage in April 2018 will be £8.05.Any sign of a pay increase?
when I know I will post it we can celebrate…but I will bet you a £1 to a pinch of rocking horse pooh someone will of just had double that!
mattecube:
eagerbeaver:
:lol: Just as a side note on this subject, I assume you are aware the minimum wage in April 2018 will be £8.05.Any sign of a pay increase?
when I know I will post it we can celebrate…but I will bet you a £1 to a pinch of rocking horse pooh someone will of just had double that!
I think it’s a f**king disgrace personally that drivers are paid that amount. I am not knocking you personally fella as I am well aware that everyone’s situation is different.
In an ideal world drivers would simply not work for those wages. Is there not anywhere local to you who pay’s better?
mattecube:
robroy:
So as a driver of theirs what are your views on the difference between standard rate and overtime rate, do you think it is actually worth your while working overtime at all.Do you also as well as the other guy think you are on ‘good money’ bearing in mind you have to work a lot of hours to make up a liveable wage.
Not taking the ■■■■ or having a go mate, just interested in your views as one of their drivers.
My view is this
As an employer they are good
The kit is altogether,defects are dealt with.
They do not condone or expect bent running
Parking paid for and they have a network of hauliers whos yards you can get booked into for the night,we are not allowed to use msas and only park in laybys ,ind estates if empty or low value loads blocks paper rolls etcPay what do I think… yes we would all like higher rates and I have yet to meet anyone on a lower rate than me and many in the rdcs are not getting out of bed for less than 1000 a week yeah right!
Input hours yes maybe but its better to get a slightly higher rate and put the hours in than finish early and sit in a truckstop listening to the driver who wants to tell you every delivery he has made since he saved 10 drivers on the Zeebrugge tragedy.
there are ways of achieving thisThe jobs not hard,the kit is altogether, as an employer if you are ok with them they are ok with you, I can manage happily on the money
Ok, but personally I would rather do fewer hours for a better rate, than more hours for a lesser rate, I would have thought that would be a no brainer tbh.
Like you, I am also on a crap rate of pay for the firm that I work for, but I’m a realist and see my firm for what they really are.
I have worked in the past on big money for other firms, but today I like my job what I do, …but not keen on my firm in other words.
I don’t sit among other drivers talking crap when on a night out, (nor am I the one talking the crap before anybody starts 
) nor am I sat in a lay by on my own for that matter.
Whatever suits you, suits you at the end of the day mate I reckon eh?