Goldfinger:
So when I’m carrying a 32’x10’ office unit, I have rear markers on it showing width and rear over hang which is about 2m, (rigid 8x4 + hiab = bed is about 27 feet).I need a movement order too?? !!!
Yep see above 
There’s a lad on one of the other sites who does that and he does so…
Over 3 metres wide needs needs marker boards and at night need light on each corner, also a movement order
side markers are a bit vague in the regs but rule of thumb is one marker for every 10 foot( 3 metres) and you wont go wrong
and the poster above is right its under C&U regs and if in daylight no lights need- not even hero lights its not even wider than the wing mirrors
Just google Esdal, it’s the HA’s electronic system for doing it. No idea how it works exactly that’s the office monkeys job
Rikki-UK:
Over 3 metres wide needs needs marker boards and at night need light on each corner, also a movement order
side markers are a bit vague in the regs but rule of thumb is one marker for every 10 foot( 3 metres) and you wont go wrongand the poster above is right its under C&U regs and if in daylight no lights need- not even hero lights its not even wider than the wing mirrors
It’s 2.9 for c&U but 3 for STGO like you used to do I think, Rikki.
“hero lights”
hodgeR500:
Why wetherby svs
'cos that’s where we got clamped , perfect load,3.1 wide I think ,marker boards, outriggers, front and rear beacons bot no MO.
The cop that stopped us was abnormal load specialist I think based at Wetherby or maybe Leeds
Jim
Not good news as will be passing wetherby think ill just dump it and head to the pub 
hodgeR500:
Not good news as will be passing wetherby think ill just dump it and head to the pub
I like your style
billybigrig:
hodgeR500:
Not good news as will be passing wetherby think ill just dump it and head to the pubI like your style
They can contact me when mo is in place 2 days on drink will do and away from Missus bonus
billybigrig:
Saaamon:
billybigrig:
Here’s the links to show your boss, next time he tries to con youbrilliant
To be fair, we’ve all been there in some way shape or form throughout our careers. Without the good old internet to seek fast answers it was a case of faith in the gaffer…who promptly denied it all when you got your collar felt
Even in my short time i have to agree, it is funny though looking back knowing you’ve been properly fobbed off
billybigrig:
It’s 2.9 for c&U but 3 for STGO like you used to do I think, Rikki.:
markers are only needed under C&U ( and lights) there is no requirement under STGO or even Special order to marker board or light a load. all the regs are under C&U Once you come under STGO or VR1 you can ingnore all those rules - fact is most people/firms will still try to comply with C&U on the grounds , quite rightly, of public safety
Rikki-UK:
[quote=“billybigrig”}It’s 2.9 for c&U but 3 for STGO like you used to do I think, Rikki.
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markers are only needed under C&U ( and lights) there is no requirement under STGO or even Special order to marker board or light a load. all the regs are under C&U Once you come under STGO or VR1 you can ingnore all those rules - fact is most people/firms will still try to comply with C&U on the grounds , quite rightly, of public safety
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I knew there were differences but we’re c&u so am naive to your stgo rules. 
Besides I’m to lazy to check that many tyres or walk that far for a daily check
We had to go through this last week as 3 of us moved a wooden house thing, and each piece was 2.99 mtrs wide.
My gaffer also told me that was well as the movement order we could only travel between 10am-4 pm, Not sure how true that is.
Also if your heading over the dartford river crossing its £42 for an ■■■■■■, even though we were less than 3mtrs and then you have to pay the toll as well 
Owen
hodgeR500:
Not good news as will be passing wetherby think ill just dump it and head to the pub
Might be the best course of action Hodge, never really boozed in Wetherby ,
I’m sure you’ll find a billet!
My gaffer also told me that was well as the movement order we could only travel between 10am-4 pm, Not sure how true that is.
probably true and be a restiction on the movement order by one of the police forces trust me when one will only allow you to move by day and the next force only by night it can lead to some very short working days- wheres the pub 
I knew there were differences but we’re c&u so am naive to your stgo rules.
STGO is one thing- throw out most C&U regs- when you get to special order( the type the minister of transport has to personally sign) type loads the regs do not exist at all ) and there is provision in law for more than that - you could move a 5 metre wide load ( go wider if you wish) 300 tonne (Go heavier if you wish) 20 foot high ( go higher, oh you get the point) with no notification at all , all it takes is some one in authority (Police, army, NHS power grid,and a few more) to declare it as a national emergency. once you get to the top end of heavy haulage you would be surprised what goes on and actually how little legislation actually affects you- BTW once your out of C&U regs- you know them EEC hours laws- forget them - of course domestic hours laws might apply-m but they forgot to include Special order work in domestic hour legislation- Oops
JFC999:
The cop that stopped us was abnormal load specialist I think based at Wetherby or maybe Leeds
Jim
You must have ■■■■■■ him off because he measured me at Hartshead Moor slightly over 2.9m with no movement order but when I gave him my details he recognised us as a regular movement order applicants, and he just gave me a verbal flea in me ear and sent me on my way 
Big Joe:
JFC999:
The cop that stopped us was abnormal load specialist I think based at Wetherby or maybe Leeds
JimYou must have ■■■■■■ him off because he measured me at Hartshead Moor slightly over 2.9m with no movement order
Nearly all other drivers I talk to seem to think they can go 3m before they need MO.
I know we got away with it for ages, just said oh it’s only local no one will notice .
JFC999:
Big Joe:
JFC999:
The cop that stopped us was abnormal load specialist I think based at Wetherby or maybe Leeds
JimYou must have ■■■■■■ him off because he measured me at Hartshead Moor slightly over 2.9m with no movement order
Nearly all other drivers I talk to seem to think they can go 3m before they need MO.
I know we got away with it for ages, just said oh it’s only local no one will notice .
Have to say I thought you needed wide load marker triangles but no MO.
I also thought it varied between police areas as whether or not you need a MO. Sounds like there’s quite a few full time jobs rubber stamping in the police generated.
