msgyorkie:
Lol Mazzer you are getting beaten and worn down with tedious links from Mr Links. This bloke could argue with himself in a stuck lift.
We all know that Brexit is a long term game…leave Mr Links and the racist cornishman to carry on crying and constantly bleating negativity, in the meantime we can be positive and look towards the future with pride and positivity.
Lol true but it helps pass the time while sat here in Lymm waiting on a trailer you mentioning pride and positivity will set him up for at least another page
msgyorkie:
Lol Mazzer you are getting beaten and worn down with tedious links from Mr Links. This bloke could argue with himself in a stuck lift.
We all know that Brexit is a long term game…leave Mr Links and the racist cornishman to carry on crying and constantly bleating negativity, in the meantime we can be positive and look towards the future with pride and positivity.
Lol true but it helps pass the time while sat here in Lymm waiting on a trailer you mentioning pride and positivity will set him up for at least another page
Mazzer2:
do you believe that uncontrolled immigration has no effect on the wages of the low paid?
Do I believe immigration has NO effect? No, I don`t.
Do I believe immigration has SOME effect? Yes, I do.
It also seems that immigration in other EU countries has not got the same effect on wages that it may have in the UK.
Something you and others seem to ignore.
Seems…?
Very vague language to base an assumption on.
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Ah, well.
If you can provide us all with some exact facts and figures, with a clear explanation of how all the relevant factors interact, we will be very grateful.
I expect the Sveriges Riksbank Prize Committee will be grateful too, as you`ll stop any argument over the next award.
Until we have your explanation the rest of us mere mortals are stuck with best guesses.
Predictions you mean?
Immediate recession ring any bells?
The Conservative MP for Dover has claimed that Brexit is benefiting her town because new border bureaucracy is creating jobs there.
Natalie Elphicke said the work enforcing new red tape on goods passing through the town was a “Brexit dividend”.
She characterised the £100m cost to the public ■■■■■ of two new inspection facilities as an “investment” in her constituency by the government.
Two large new sites are required because leaving the EU has added new frictions to trade between Britain and the continent.
Vast armies of inspectors and experts are needed to check cargo which was previously able to flow freely. The red tape has contributed to a record fall in exports to the bloc, which were down 12 per cent between January and December of last year compared to the previous year.
But representing the change as a win, Ms Elphicke told the BBC’s Newsnight programme: "Here in Dover and Deal we’ve already been benefiting from the so-called Brexit dividend.
whisperingsmith:
The Conservative MP for Dover has claimed that Brexit is benefiting her town because new border bureaucracy is creating jobs there.
Natalie Elphicke said the work enforcing new red tape on goods passing through the town was a “Brexit dividend”.
She characterised the £100m cost to the public ■■■■■ of two new inspection facilities as an “investment” in her constituency by the government.
Two large new sites are required because leaving the EU has added new frictions to trade between Britain and the continent.
Vast armies of inspectors and experts are needed to check cargo which was previously able to flow freely. The red tape has contributed to a record fall in exports to the bloc, which were down 12 per cent between January and December of last year compared to the previous year.
But representing the change as a win, Ms Elphicke told the BBC’s Newsnight programme: "Here in Dover and Deal we’ve already been benefiting from the so-called Brexit dividend.
> Monkey241: > I’m guessing you also question the requirement for EU customs checks at EU borders? > Or is that good? Just bad for the UK to do it?
Not at all, just that before Brexit out first EU border going South East was around 1,700 miles away, roughly 4 to 5 days drive at Kapikule, not just down the road.
whisperingsmith: > Monkey241: > I’m guessing you also question the requirement for EU customs checks at EU borders? > Or is that good? Just bad for the UK to do it?
Not at all, just that before Brexit out first EU border going South East was around 1,700 miles away, roughly 4 to 5 days drive at Kapikule, not just down the road.
So, what’s your point?
A choice was made to leave.
The EU enforces border checks- and so do we.
I guess there are those like you that like border checks - personally I’d rather do without, though I have to admit that on occasions a good old border delay gives a chance to have a break and a yarn with other drivers.
I guess there are those like you that like border checks - personally I’d rather do without, though I have to admit that on occasions a good old border delay gives a chance to have a break and a yarn with other drivers.
Those like you?
As opposed to people like you? Those that didn’t spend twenty plus years exhibiting their commitment to this great nation by protecting it’s citizenry and interests you mean?
Shakespeare had it right.
And it’s time you just got on with it and made the most of a situation you clearly disagree with but lacked the persuasion and personal charm to carry the vote
I don’t like or dislike border checks. It’s an odd thing to get hung up on
whisperingsmith:
The Conservative MP for Dover has claimed that Brexit is benefiting her town because new border bureaucracy is creating jobs there.
Natalie Elphicke said the work enforcing new red tape on goods passing through the town was a “Brexit dividend”.
She characterised the £100m cost to the public ■■■■■ of two new inspection facilities as an “investment” in her constituency by the government.
Two large new sites are required because leaving the EU has added new frictions to trade between Britain and the continent.
Vast armies of inspectors and experts are needed to check cargo which was previously able to flow freely. The red tape has contributed to a record fall in exports to the bloc, which were down 12 per cent between January and December of last year compared to the previous year.
But representing the change as a win, Ms Elphicke told the BBC’s Newsnight programme: "Here in Dover and Deal we’ve already been benefiting from the so-called Brexit dividend.
How foolish we have been sending Liz Truss to make free trade deals, we need more documentation to give more jobs to private clerks and agents to raise T2s. Checking lorries will need more parks, more traffic marshals, more Customs Officers, vets, it1s all more jobs for the UK. Scrap those pointless free trade deals with Australia! That only puts civil servants out of work.
Shouldnt Elphickes “Brexit Bonus*” be shared out more?
Let`s have borders between England and Wales, England and Scotland. Look at the vast opportunity to create even more jobs and for us to build even more inland clearance facilities. More work for English, Scots and Welsh people. Trips will take longer so we will need more drivers, another bonus.
Maybe the Dáil Éireann too will see what a bonus this is and agree to hard borders between NI and Eire. Not only builders and clerks, but extra jobs for security forces too. Brilliant! Maybe we can give extra work to hospitals too.
The EU will soon see the folly of dropping internal border controls and re-introduce them. As we spend tax money on documentation checks, increase companies costs on raising and clearing documents, increase lorry journey times, they will see just how many more people we can use to make a product. We will show the way maybe even doubling the manpower necessary to do any job.
*Elphicke:
There are no Problems at Dover.
The Dover Problems aren`t caused by Brexit.
We have control of our borders.
The Problems at Dover are caused by Brussels.
The Problems at Dover aren`t Problems, they are a bonus giving extra jobs, made by Brexit.
whisperingsmith:
The Conservative MP for Dover has claimed that Brexit is benefiting her town because new border bureaucracy is creating jobs there.
Natalie Elphicke said the work enforcing new red tape on goods passing through the town was a “Brexit dividend”.
She characterised the £100m cost to the public ■■■■■ of two new inspection facilities as an “investment” in her constituency by the government.
Two large new sites are required because leaving the EU has added new frictions to trade between Britain and the continent.
Vast armies of inspectors and experts are needed to check cargo which was previously able to flow freely. The red tape has contributed to a record fall in exports to the bloc, which were down 12 per cent between January and December of last year compared to the previous year.
But representing the change as a win, Ms Elphicke told the BBC’s Newsnight programme: "Here in Dover and Deal we’ve already been benefiting from the so-called Brexit dividend.
How foolish we have been sending Liz Truss to make free trade deals, we need more documentation to give more jobs to private clerks and agents to raise T2s. Checking lorries will need more parks, more traffic marshals, more Customs Officers, vets, it1s all more jobs for the UK. Scrap those pointless free trade deals with Australia! That only puts civil servants out of work.
Shouldnt Elphickes “Brexit Bonus*” be shared out more?
Let`s have borders between England and Wales, England and Scotland. Look at the vast opportunity to create even more jobs and for us to build even more inland clearance facilities. More work for English, Scots and Welsh people. Trips will take longer so we will need more drivers, another bonus.
Maybe the Dáil Éireann too will see what a bonus this is and agree to hard borders between NI and Eire. Not only builders and clerks, but extra jobs for security forces too. Brilliant! Maybe we can give extra work to hospitals too.
The EU will soon see the folly of dropping internal border controls and re-introduce them. As we spend tax money on documentation checks, increase companies costs on raising and clearing documents, increase lorry journey times, they will see just how many more people we can use to make a product. We will show the way maybe even doubling the manpower necessary to do any job.
*Elphicke:
There are no Problems at Dover.
The Dover Problems aren`t caused by Brexit.
We have control of our borders.
The Problems at Dover are caused by Brussels.
The Problems at Dover aren`t Problems, they are a bonus giving extra jobs, made by Brexit.
See
At least we know you’re not a fan of Scottish independemce.
have the UK ever had more money out of the common market than what was put in…that mafia had 40 od years to show joe blogs how good it was and the common market lost err 3 times was it
Yet again massive queues this time in Folkestone a whole 20 minutes from the location in the picture to the lanes 4 trains an hour arrived at 12.50 eta France 15.00 probably a bit busier than usual due to the bad weather and more using the train rather than the Ferry
Bit of topic but Out of interest what is the procedure these days at ports and customs, lets say I was going to Portugal and then back to Manchester, what happens.
Macski:
Bit of topic but Out of interest what is the procedure these days at ports and customs, lets say I was going to Portugal and then back to Manchester, what happens.
Would be an interesting you tube video.
Ha it wouldn’t be a very interesting video, a customs agent does the paperwork, this gives an MRN number, or multiple numbers depending on the load, the firm then inputs that into gov site to generate a GMR number, driver has this on phone or printed, you trundle to the port, its scanned & onto the crossing you go.
You might get pulled at French side, or UK side however & need checks & it is possible be in customs ‘jail’ parked up as something is amis with the paperwork.
Some goods need pre trip checks & I’ve moved stuff on carnet which is a different procedure also, needing stamps UK side & EU side outbound & reverse on way back
iguana:
Ha it wouldn’t be a very interesting video,
True enough.
iguana:
a customs agent does the paperwork, this gives an MRN number, or multiple numbers depending on the load, the firm then inputs that into gov site to generate a GMR number, driver has this on phone or printed, you trundle to the port, its scanned & onto the crossing you go.
You might get pulled at French side, or UK side however & need checks & it is possible be in customs ‘jail’ parked up as something is amis with the paperwork.
Some goods need pre trip checks & I’ve moved stuff on carnet which is a different procedure also, needing stamps UK side & EU side outbound & reverse on way back
None of which was normal a couple of years ago, but is everyday and boring today.
The driver does very little, we dont have complicated forms to fill in or check over, just enter reg numbers etc and a bar-code etc. Having crossed the Channel, and left port zone, its plain sailing.
If you are having problems with e-docs, you`re parked and just sit and wait for phone or e-mail. Nothing that you as a driver do.
