Question?

Truckulent:

cliffton 27:

tootman318:

Coffeeholic:

10-08:
Now is it me or is the only way this job is covered by the working time directive is if you opt out of it?

You can’t opt out of it, the night work opt out only removes the 10 hour night working time limit, not the 48 hour average or 60 hour week maximums.

There is already 6 hours of break in there looking at the shift length so throw in another 6 or POA and it will come down to 48. Probably trunking with a couple or so hours wait before heading back, that would do it. If you advertised my job it would be a 47.5 hour week, yeah I know that’s within the average, but I only have a total duty time of 40 - 43 hours and only about 20 - 22 hours count for the WTD so the start and finish times in an advert don’t tell you much as to whether it will be within the WTD regs or not.

So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

yea everytime i was on a bay or being tipped id be on p o a

:smiley: no but when being tipped at a big rdc i knew i was gonna be there for at least 30 min so poa it was :sunglasses:

Everytime? So you knew when they’d be finished/had been given a finish/departure time every tip?? :grimacing:

Better organised than most if so!!

tootman318:
So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

Yes.

cliffton 27:

tootman318:

Coffeeholic:

10-08:
Now is it me or is the only way this job is covered by the working time directive is if you opt out of it?

You can’t opt out of it, the night work opt out only removes the 10 hour night working time limit, not the 48 hour average or 60 hour week maximums.

There is already 6 hours of break in there looking at the shift length so throw in another 6 or POA and it will come down to 48. Probably trunking with a couple or so hours wait before heading back, that would do it. If you advertised my job it would be a 47.5 hour week, yeah I know that’s within the average, but I only have a total duty time of 40 - 43 hours and only about 20 - 22 hours count for the WTD so the start and finish times in an advert don’t tell you much as to whether it will be within the WTD regs or not.

So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

yea everytime i was on a bay or being tipped id be on p o a

I’d have it on break, never voluntarily booked POA. Booked many hours of it in the last 6 months or so but that’s only because I have no choice when my card is in slot 2.

Coffeeholic:

tootman318:
So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

Yes.

cliffton 27:

tootman318:

Coffeeholic:

10-08:
Now is it me or is the only way this job is covered by the working time directive is if you opt out of it?

You can’t opt out of it, the night work opt out only removes the 10 hour night working time limit, not the 48 hour average or 60 hour week maximums.

There is already 6 hours of break in there looking at the shift length so throw in another 6 or POA and it will come down to 48. Probably trunking with a couple or so hours wait before heading back, that would do it. If you advertised my job it would be a 47.5 hour week, yeah I know that’s within the average, but I only have a total duty time of 40 - 43 hours and only about 20 - 22 hours count for the WTD so the start and finish times in an advert don’t tell you much as to whether it will be within the WTD regs or not.

So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

yea everytime i was on a bay or being tipped id be on p o a

I’d have it on break, never voluntarily booked POA. Booked many hours of it in the last 6 months or so but that’s only because I have no choice when my card is in slot 2.

get what your saying mate but il have a break when i been tipped and pulled of the door and out the gate only have a break on a door if im on 4hr 27

cliffton 27:

Coffeeholic:

tootman318:
So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

Yes.

cliffton 27:

tootman318:

Coffeeholic:

10-08:
Now is it me or is the only way this job is covered by the working time directive is if you opt out of it?

You can’t opt out of it, the night work opt out only removes the 10 hour night working time limit, not the 48 hour average or 60 hour week maximums.

There is already 6 hours of break in there looking at the shift length so throw in another 6 or POA and it will come down to 48. Probably trunking with a couple or so hours wait before heading back, that would do it. If you advertised my job it would be a 47.5 hour week, yeah I know that’s within the average, but I only have a total duty time of 40 - 43 hours and only about 20 - 22 hours count for the WTD so the start and finish times in an advert don’t tell you much as to whether it will be within the WTD regs or not.

So is it best to book break or poa? In a week can you work say 65 hours in total, take off poa/breaks and still be legal?

yea everytime i was on a bay or being tipped id be on p o a

I’d have it on break, never voluntarily booked POA. Booked many hours of it in the last 6 months or so but that’s only because I have no choice when my card is in slot 2.

get what your saying mate but il have a break when i been tipped and pulled of the door and out the gate only have a break on a door if im on 4hr 27

I’d rather crack on and get done rather than make the day longer by having a break after sitting about for ages.

^this^

been doing rdc deliveries last 2 weeks. went asda lutterworth. 2hours on break waiting for a bay.
last week Tesco magor. 3 hours driving each way with 50minutes break whilst being tipped. another driver arrived just as i was done and asked me where i going to take break.when i said i had it he saying that it was illegal
show me in black and white i told him. if I’m not working I’m on break

10-08:

Coffeeholic:

10-08:
Now is it me or is the only way this job is covered by the working time directive is if you opt out of it?

You can’t opt out of it, the night work opt out only removes the 10 hour night working time limit, not the 48 hour average or 60 hour week maximums.

so we’re all working illegally? That will displease the Europeans.

Who cares what Europe thinks ? who won the war anyway. One good thing about Cameron is he stood up to the likes of Germany and France who want to rule Europe between them. Tony Blair told them to stick the Euro and good for him or Britain would be in far worse crap and now the present PM has stuck to his ground.
Why should France and Germany tell Britain what it may or may not do ?

Pat Hasler:
Who cares what Europe thinks ? who won the war anyway.

In the long run, Germany.

andy187:
^this^

been doing rdc deliveries last 2 weeks. went asda lutterworth. 2hours on break waiting for a bay.
last week Tesco magor. 3 hours driving each way with 50minutes break whilst being tipped. another driver arrived just as i was done and asked me where i going to take break.when i said i had it he saying that it was illegal
show me in black and white i told him. if I’m not working I’m on break

These are the blokes where the best urban myths come from :stuck_out_tongue:

Some of the questions asked by company drivers never got a truthful reply.

Where have you come from?
What time did you start?
Which ferry did you get?
That was my job but I turned round and told her.

The last one is the best, as I was given the job late and still beat the wannabe copper to the drop :laughing: