Should know this, do have an idea that you cant, not 100 per cent sure.
If I start at midnight and finish at 09.00 and have my eleven hour break can I start again at 21.00 the same day. because its within the same 24 hour period details about it are a bit sketchy to find.
Of course you can.
Contraflow:
Of course you can.
Good man Thanks for that, never did it before and it did not sound right because of the same 24 hour, but as you say I can.
Contraflow:
Of course you can.
+1.
You could conceivably and legally get three shifts in in a 24 hour period if you so desired. It’d be ridiculous admittedly, but still legal nonetheless.
nightline:
Contraflow:
Of course you can.Good man Thanks for that, never did it before and it did not sound right because of the same 24 hour, but as you say I can.
Most people who work nights will finish work and then start work again in the same calendar day.
nightline:
Should know this, do have an idea that you cant, not 100 per cent sure.If I start at midnight and finish at 09.00 and have my eleven hour break can I start again at 21.00 the same day. because its within the same 24 hour period details about it are a bit sketchy to find.
You would have had 12 hours rest in the 24 hour period.
I used to occasionally arrive after a week away at a a container tip point on Friday at 2pm on Scunthorpe having started at maybe 03- 400 to run to “The Grain”. It took 4 hours plus to tip this box so used to go to drop trailer immediately on bay at 2pm, rest up, chill then yoke it up at 11pm then drive to yard to be back in time for beer at local prior 1am
Better than an 0400 wake up for an 0500 arrival and no Friday night beer. Make sure dead time is on their time, not your time. I was forever conjuring up dodges and trimming when I was younger. 
The 24 hour clock/day is not the deciding factor.
A working day, is the period in between two daily rest periods.
Just the same as your daily rest is the period in between two working shifts.
nightline:
Should know this, do have an idea that you cant, not 100 per cent sure.If I start at midnight and finish at 09.00 and have my eleven hour break can I start again at 21.00 the same day. because its within the same 24 hour period details about it are a bit sketchy to find.
Depends How many hours you drive in your shift.
You can drive a maximum of 9 hours, which can be extended to 10, in a 24 hour period. So whilst you can be on duty, you may not be able to drive at 21.00 that day.
More details needed.
the nodding donkey:
You can drive a maximum of 9 hours, which can be extended to 10, in a 24 hour period. So whilst you can be on duty, you may not be able to drive at 21.00 that day.More details needed.
the driving time is also reset by the rest period is it not? So even if he has done a 9hr 50 mins drive, if that was his first since his last weekly then he can still do another regardless of start time as long as he has had a daily rest, even if it is technically the same day?
The-Snowman:
the nodding donkey:
You can drive a maximum of 9 hours, which can be extended to 10, in a 24 hour period. So whilst you can be on duty, you may not be able to drive at 21.00 that day.More details needed.
the driving time is also reset by the rest period is it not? So even if he has done a 9hr 50 mins drive, if that was his first since his last weekly then he can still do another regardless of start time as long as he has had a daily rest, even if it is technically the same day?
No, the rest period does not reset the 24 hour clock. Same way that an 11 hour rest after a 15 hour duty does not count as an 11 hour rest.
the nodding donkey:
The-Snowman:
the nodding donkey:
You can drive a maximum of 9 hours, which can be extended to 10, in a 24 hour period. So whilst you can be on duty, you may not be able to drive at 21.00 that day.More details needed.
the driving time is also reset by the rest period is it not? So even if he has done a 9hr 50 mins drive, if that was his first since his last weekly then he can still do another regardless of start time as long as he has had a daily rest, even if it is technically the same day?
No, the rest period does not reset the 24 hour clock. Same way that an 11 hour rest after a 15 hour duty does not count as an 11 hour rest.
+1
For EU regulations the daily driving time is reset by a daily rest period, the 9/10 hour daily driving time is the driving time between 2 daily rest periods or between a weekly rest period and a daily rest period.
As far as driving time is concerned the only time the 24 hour period comes into the equation is if you’re on UK domestic regulations, in which case you can drive 10 hours in the 24 hour period.
On EU regulations, if you start work at midnight and finish at 09:00 then have an 11 hour rest period you can start work/driving again any time after 20:00 regardless of how many hours driving you did in the previous shift.
Someone playing battleships with tachograph and just lost with one hit 
nick2008:
Someone playing battleships with tachograph and just lost with one hit
tachograph:
For EU regulations the daily driving time is reset by a daily rest period, the 9/10 hour daily driving time is the driving time between 2 daily rest periods or between a weekly rest period and a daily rest period.As far as driving time is concerned the only time the 24 hour period comes into the equation is if you’re on UK domestic regulations, in which case you can drive 10 hours in the 24 hour period.
On EU regulations, if you start work at midnight and finish at 09:00 then have an 11 hour rest period you can start work/driving again any time after 20:00 regardless of how many hours driving you did in the previous shift.
Yes, my mistake. I’m not very good at scraping as many hours driving as possible…
You can have two more hours in a 24 hours period, if you take a rest reduction, and use your 10 Hour option in your first period. Your boss may even buy you chocolates. …
It’s best to just slip away gracefully when you’ve made a mistake Donkey. We can see your passive aggressive thinly veiled insults. 
Contraflow:
It’s best to just slip away gracefully when you’ve made a mistake Donkey. We can see your passive aggressive thinly veiled insults.
I came into this world kicking and screaming and covered in someone else’s blood. I intent to leave in a similar fashion. …
the nodding donkey:
Contraflow:
It’s best to just slip away gracefully when you’ve made a mistake Donkey. We can see your passive aggressive thinly veiled insults.I came into this world kicking and screaming and covered in someone else’s blood. I intent to leave in a similar fashion. …
The thing is you was hung upside down and slapped hard by a well built midwife.
By the time you pop off she’ll have perfected that slap so don’t ever wish for the same as you came into this world.
the nodding donkey:
Contraflow:
It’s best to just slip away gracefully when you’ve made a mistake Donkey. We can see your passive aggressive thinly veiled insults.I came into this world kicking and screaming and covered in someone else’s blood. I intent to leave in a similar fashion. …
Does this extend to the wider way which you came onto the earth? To run it backwards, spend your last years ■■■■■■■■ yourself, having someone wipe your backside and talking general crap before being covered in blood and disappearing up some birds box?
What a way to go. I prefer the Hugh Hefner method myself.