Question about LTL pricing

Hello there from Canada! I have a question that perhaps someone can answer, please. I am almost ready to release an app that does costing and pricing for loads for hauliers in the UK and Europe. My question is simply this: do you use skid (pallet) pricing for LTL shipments which are not expedited and, if so, do you use a cubic metre rule (eg., 1000 kg/3 cubic metres) or is it straight pallet pricing on partial loads? My app currently does skid pricing based on a rule of how much revenue a trucker needs for half of a truck and I am concerned that hauliers may not use this system. Your help is appreciated. Thank you. :slight_smile:

I don’t think you are almost ready to release this app.

try bit.ly/UM5uya

If anyone has a phone or tablet that runs Android, you can download my free app at:

play.google.com/store/apps/deta … W5uZXIiXQ..

It’s available at the Google Play store. Basically, what it does is gives you the approximate operating cost of doing a load based on mileage. What you guys will really like is you can also see what the approximate cost would be for a foreign haulier to do that load (example: a haulier from Hungary with a truck somewhere in the UK, competing for a load coming from the UK.) Just enter the distance and the current price of fuel where your truck is and the app does the rest.

Enjoy!

shawner:
If anyone has a phone or tablet that runs Android, you can download my free app at:

play.google.com/store/apps/deta … W5uZXIiXQ..

It’s available at the Google Play store. Basically, what it does is gives you the approximate operating cost of doing a load based on mileage. What you guys will really like is you can also see what the approximate cost would be for a foreign haulier to do that load (example: a haulier from Hungary with a truck somewhere in the UK, competing for a load coming from the UK.) Just enter the distance and the current price of fuel where your truck is and the app does the rest.

Enjoy!

Hi shawner,

I’m somewhat technologically challenged and therefore not very technically logical, but does your app also factor in all the standing and fixed costs for various nationalities of hauliers, or does it only indicate ‘part’ costs??

For instance, drivers wages are a significant cost and so hauliers from certain countries actually have that as an advantage if they’re loading in a territory that has higher drivers’ wages than ‘back home.’

Hello Dieseldave,

It actually is based on research from the European Commission and does, in fact, include overheads (fixed) as well as variable costs. The costs are: insurance, depreciation, financing, tyres, maintenance, driver’s wages, overheads, VED (vehicle excise duty) and vignette. The fuel cost is computed based on the mileage and price of fuel you enter.

To give you a comparison based on the data, a UK company would have to pay £1.15 per mile (before accounting for fuel) whilst a haulier from the Czech Republic would need £0.98 per mile (before fuel cost.) Take for example a run from London to Paris, 282 miles, and it was between a UK haulier and that same guy from the Czech. Let’s say the fuel price is £1.40 per litre in London. The guy from the UK: 282 miles @ 7.6 mpg and convert into litres is about 140 L x 1.40 = £196 fuel cost + (282 miles x £1.15/mi) = £520.30 (£1.85/mi). Your Czech competitor: £196 fuel + (282 miles x £0.98/mi) = £472.36 (£1.68/mi). Advantage: Czech.

From what I can see and if I’m understanding this right, hauliers in the UK are basically competing against foreign companies that come in and do loads cheaper than what a bonafide haulier could do, thus stealing work as it were. I’d be pleased to share these numbers with you fine folks, if it helps level the playing field some, in case you don’t have a phone or tablet that can run the app. What do you think?

I have iPad?

Hi ibson, sorry, only have it developed for Android so far.

Well never mind. I would have loved to seen it but cannot I’m afraid as I only have apple products.

Terribly sorry. I’m not an Apple guy but let me see if there’s something I can do.

shawner:
From what I can see and if I’m understanding this right, hauliers in the UK are basically competing against foreign companies that come in and do loads cheaper than what a bonafide haulier could do, thus stealing work as it were.

No [zb] Sherlock !

I’d be pleased to share these numbers with you fine folks, if it helps level the playing field some, in case you don’t have a phone or tablet that can run the app. What do you think?

As long as you’re not trying to sell us software or get free advertising :wink:

your forgetting the CZ truck has fueled up not in the uk but in the eu and drop the cz .98 price to more like .60p

also its would only work for owner drivers as eu drivers do not select there own loads and no input where they go even owner drivers dont have much say in the price there paid there told what they will get paid and they take it or leave. for the eu i thik you need to rethink you target market any owner driver would know what they need to make a profit from anyjob

shawner:
Terribly sorry. I’m not an Apple guy but let me see if there’s something I can do.

coding language it similar to android though apis would be different there should some conversion software for devs to move apps over

Here’s the numbers (doesn’t include cost of fuel):

UK: £1.15/mile
Belgium: £1.24/mile
Czech: £0.98/mile
France: £1.22/mile
Germany: £1.22/mile
Hungary: £0.89/mile
Italy: £1.38/mile
Netherlands: £1.40/mile
Romania: £0.80/mile