thanks jimti , that is good news , so as long as im on paye within 3 months it wont matter 
Joe89:
thanks jimti , that is good news , so as long as im on paye within 3 months it wont matter
OK JoeâŚlet me get this straightâŚYou turned up for work, which they would have set up but youâre not getting paid at all just because they didnât have any work for you? Thatâs just wrong! You should demand a minimum payment for turning up. If you were employed by the agency direct youâd probably be on a guaranteed 8 hours a dayâŚjust because youâre self employed doesnât mean you should skip thisâŚafter all, you could turn down other work in favour for DPD. get there and be sent home and boomâŚno pay at allâŚbefore you know it, youâve got money troubles. The agencies love guys like you because Iâm sorry to say it, but youâre a massive push over!
im not sure if im through the agency " directly" as you say , because i know some1 who works for the actual company , and they just said turn up weel see if you can get any work , iv not signed anything with the agency? its all a bit confusing and unofficial thats why i just want to get on the books asap
Joe89:
im not sure if im through the agency " directly" as you say , because i know some1 who works for the actual company , and they just said turn up weel see if you can get any work , iv not signed anything with the agency? its all a bit confusing and unofficial thats why i just want to get on the books asap
Even if its unofficial Iâd still have a minimum pay for the days you are sent home. Otherwise as Iâve saidâŚyou could end up saying yes to your friend and turn down other work.
I smell a RAT⌠IMO I think the OP is having a Girraffe with you all & yanking ya chains to get a reaction. Afterall NO ONE can be that stupid to turn up for ANY work, and NOT expect to get paid ⌠Or can they?? 
look mate im not messing about , if i go out on a run i get ÂŁ90 , the guy wont pay me if i dont do any runs. what am i spose to do , i need work
Joe89:
thanks jimti , that is good news , so as long as im on paye within 3 months it wont matter
that is not what I said, what ever you earn you will have to declare, you just have to notify the tax man within 3 months that you have been earning, then submit your self assessment by Jan the following year.
just keep records of what you earn and expenses you incur due to business
Joe89:
look mate im not messing about , if i go out on a run i get ÂŁ90 , the guy wont pay me if i dont do any runs. what am i spose to do , i need work
We all need work Joe, but I think the point here is you need to wise up to what the experienced hands are trying to tell youâŚ
THIS GUY IS TAKING THE â â â â OUT OF YOU.
You need to establish who is asking you to turn up, and whether they are an agency or DPD direct. What is their relationship to one or both. You then need to establish who is paying you, how theyâre paying you, and who is paying your tax and ni.
If itâs an agency, and THEY are asking you to turn up, and then there is no work when you get there, that is not your problem, and THEY should be paying you 8 hoursâŚPeriod. End of. (Or finding you another job elsewhere, as agencies in the main donât like giving you 8 hours for nothing. Thatâs not good business sense.)
If itâs an employee of DPD, and the same scenario is happening, then a call to the DPD head office and a severe letter of complaint should follow. This muppet needs to be disciplined.
Like others, if you donât wise up very soon, then your going to keep on turning up with the false promise of work, and youâll end up in the serious financial â â â â personally, while they, whoever they are, donât give 2 â â â â â , as theyâll know your gullible enough to do it.
Do yourself a favour.
Ken.
i dont mean to disrespect experienced advice.
but no one has asked me to turn up so to speak , iv always said to them , shall i come in tomorrow same time? will it be busier tomorrow? i dont think they give a crap if i turn up or not? so if i turn around and say , so you going to pay me for doing nothing ? i cant risk them saying , dont come back mate
Joe89:
i dont mean to disrespect experienced advice.
but no one has asked me to turn up so to speak , iv always said to them , shall i come in tomorrow same time? will it be busier tomorrow? i dont think they give a crap if i turn up or not? so if i turn around and say , so you going to pay me for doing nothing ? i cant risk them saying , dont come back mate
I think you can risk itâŚand Iâve been in a crap financial situation and I did risk it!
Joe89:
i dont mean to disrespect experienced advice.
but no one has asked me to turn up so to speak , iv always said to them , shall i come in tomorrow same time? will it be busier tomorrow? i dont think they give a crap if i turn up or not? so if i turn around and say , so you going to pay me for doing nothing ? i cant risk them saying , dont come back mate
How much is it costing you to âjust turn upâ (petrol in the car)
This is what is going to put you in financial straits. If I was you, I would look for something else there fella
+1 on what Quinney & Semtex say.
Ill also add, if you want to work on a adhoc basic, or cash in hand. At least get some clarification from someone who has the say so. If you want a full time job, fill out an application form and apply. you could at least say to them, set me on, give me a 3-4 week trial to see how you go on, hell you could even work for 90% wages till you got to know the ropes. but at least, whatever way, youd know how you stand
This bit gets meâŚ
Joe89:
but no one has asked me to turn up so to speak , iv always said to them , shall i come in tomorrow same time? will it be busier tomorrow? i dont think they give a crap if i turn up or not? so if i turn around and say , so you going to pay me for doing nothing ? i cant risk them saying , dont come back mate
So ⌠if no one has asked you to come in and work, it does beg the questionâŚ
What would happen it you had an accident on site?
Because as you state, your acting upon your own volition (in the hope of getting some work), & your clearly not employed by either DPD or any agency directly and dont have anything in writing saying that covered by. So therefore your not covered by their employers liability insurance, and potentially not covered by the companies motor insurance policy. As that would only cover legitimate employees, and those employed by agents acting for the company. So heaven forbid, if something should happen and you have an accident, or a motoring offence. You will end up buried under a very big pile of the brown stuff. Even Ive got piece of paper in my pocket, when I step on a firm premises, saying ÂŁ5m-ÂŁ10m of liability insurance cover. So if something does happen âŚ
Wheel Nut:
Another question about invoicing, well VAT really.A UK customer with a depot in Germany ordered 540 boxes of made up kits in December. The kits were made up but the transport company did not collect them, they came for them 2 hours early and the parcels were not quite ready. New years eve, the driver left them behind.
The computer system generates an invoice using the transport reference which has not yet been issued.
The problem is the 2.5% VAT increase, so how can the invoice be raised after the holidays using the 17.5% rate.
This is a question that is worrying my mate and is worried about getting a bollocking when they realise the load is still sat on pallets in a bonded warehouse.
The customer should of issued their invoice after the job was completed, (but there will also be an order reference number that can be quoted) and therefore that is entered into the ledger under the month of December, as for Germany? Their VAT tax rate is 19% not 17.5% also as long as the company paying is Vat registered it would make no difference what Vat rate they paid or charge as it is all offset on the Vat return.
Basically a company buying goods pays the current Vat Rate on those goods, at the end of the Vat quarter they tally up all the vat paid and then deduct it off the Vat they have charged, In the UK Customs and revenue then get paid the surplus so lets say you buy goods and pay ÂŁ1000 vat in that 3 months and your services / sales you have charged ÂŁ1500 Vat you deduct your ÂŁ1000 you paid and send a cheque to the tax man with your tax return form for ÂŁ500, itâs no different in Germany as all UK companies have to supply details of their european customers along with their Vat codes each quarter.
One last thing, you have to physically adjust your invoicing software to update the new Vat rate, so you could just compile that invoice before updating the new tax rate, I used Tas 3 and still have a registered copy here if its any good to you, its basically part of the Sage business software.