Sploom:
Robroy.They cant blame you unless you are at fault because the camera doesnt lie.
Obviously,you do as you are told in line with your contract,so if your contract says you have to have a full search,then you have to.If its not in your job description,then you dont have to do iy
Yep,.just do as you are told at all costs, even the rubber glove right up the Gary 
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Ok got it,.cheers for that.
I rest my case. 
I suppose they might have difficulty proving it fully,but if the driver who had the truck before you.If his footage is clear and yours is obscured by tape,then the suspition will be on you.And if this happens every timeā¦Id rather not put myself in that position.I just keep my head down,do the job and go home without bringing more trouble on myself
Sploom:
Remy.
It doesnt send the footage to the office,the footage is stored on a hard drive in the unit.They arent supposed to view the footage unless there has been an incident.You know it works because it lights up red.But it is on our checksheet that we sign to say it is working and not covered with tape,so that was why it was getting annoying when I had to keep removing the tape or sticky residue from the lense.I would have thought that would be classed as gross misconduct because you are delibratley interferring with company equipement
Thanks for the explanation. I went to a drivers meeting at my last company where they said they were going to install outward and inward facing cameras but they werenāt going to turn the inward facing one on. I asked if a light came if they did switch it on so the driver would know but they said no light, the driver wouldnāt know it was on.
Sploom:
I suppose they might have difficulty proving it fully,but if the driver who had the truck before you.If his footage is clear and yours is obscured by tape,then the suspition will be on you.And if this happens every timeā¦Id rather not put myself in that position.I just keep my head down,do the job and go home without bringing more trouble on myself
Letās just roleā¦
Play that through.
Iām accused of covering up the camera, the evidence is that I last drove the vehicle. The report/grass was made by your goodself.
My response to captain Pointyshoes is āI know sploom doesnāt like me, I never put the tape on. How do we know he didnāt do it and is blaming me?ā
Never ever assume that the last person to have a motor must have been the culprit. That argument wouldnāt make it past a pay per hour brief in a backstreet firm of shifty solicitors.
Yes,true I suppose,but they found some way to deal with it because the lenses are all crystal clear now and I no longer have the bother of removing the tape and residue
Juddian:
As iāve said here from the start about this surveillance lark, they can fit unlimited number of cameras around the outside and spend all day glued to the monitor watching on live feed, fill yer boots people employ an assistant or two to help you in your non job, similarly they can view the various depots CCTV to their hearts content till they have square eyes, but they will never watch me on a driver facing camera because i wonāt be driving or a passenger in a truck so fitted, not because i have anything to hide but because itās one of my lines in the sand that will not be crossed, ever.
Iām 100% in agreement with all of this. Itās a line I will no longer cross either. When Maritime started putting them in their trucks I walked and would never go back.
Initially there was only one unit with one in. It wasnāt live feed and the trucks never stood still as most days we would have to wait for a unit to come in before we could get in it so I never felt like the cam footage was being scrutinised.
However, I made the right call in leaving as years later I bumped into another driver I knew from there at an RDC and he said theyād used the footage to sack quite a few drivers including one for touching his phone while driving down the yard looking for a trailer. You have to ask yourself why theyāre watching footage of drivers in the yard. I guess if your face no longer fits we all do things which could potentially get us the sack and scrutinising footage is an easy way to get rid of someone.
Bye bye workers rights.
I might start going for job interviews at companies that use them just to turn them down for this reason.
Terry T:
Juddian:
but they will never watch me on a driver facing camera because i wonāt be driving or a passenger in a truck so fitted, not because i have anything to hide but because itās one of my lines in the sand that will not be crossed, ever.Iām 100% in agreement with all of this. Itās a line I will no longer cross either. When Maritime started putting them in their trucks I walked and would never go back.
#metoo Same goes for DBS checks where the job does not fit the criteria for it being a legitimate and necessary requirement (DGs, money or vulnerable people such as oldies or kids).
yourhavingalarf:
[My response to captain Pointyshoes is āI know sploom doesnāt like me, I never put the tape on. How do we know he didnāt do it and is blaming me?ā
Never ever assume that the last person to have a motor must have been the culprit. That argument wouldnāt make it past a pay per hour brief in a backstreet firm of shifty solicitors.
How would he know you would be the next driver? At our place itās whatever truck comes back gets assigned to whatever load is ready which could be anyoneās run
He doesnt know who it will be.
He puts the sticker on just for his own benefit,just to get through the shift without a camera .He doesnt give any thought about who will have that truck next
Sploom:
He doesnt know who it will be.
He puts the sticker on just for his own benefit,just to get through the shift without a camera .He doesnt give any thought about who will have that truck next
What an absolute ā ā ā ā eh?
Refusing to knuckle down and showing a bit of resistance, thumbing his nose to the ā ā ā ā sā¦who tf does he think he is.exactly.
They should all be like you and do as they are told. ā¦Sack the bast immediately I say. 
So,you would be one of the ones putting stickers over the camera then?
So,you would be one of the ones putting stickers over the camera then?
I could not possibly comment (to both questions 
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All I will say is you do not need a ā ā ā ā sticker to protect yourself from this ā ā ā ā take intrusion.
Wow,ok
Sploom:
Wow,ok
Wowā ā ? ā¦what do you mean āwowā ?
Are you actually telling me that something like that has shocked you? 
You really ought to get out more mate.
Hereās something elseā¦I once ignored a āKeep off the grassā sign and I used to regularly ride my bike without a rear reflector.
I bet that has tipped you right over the edge eh?
Iām just an urban warrior. 
You are a rebel arent you!
Nah,it wont be long before these cameras are fitted in all the main firms,I think,if it reduces insurance premiums,given the cut throat nature of road transport and the end of the driver shortage.If you are still driving trucks in 5 years you can post herehow it felt to have your first camera shift like I did!
Iām intrigued as to why people believe the line that driver facing cameras reduce insurance premiums.
Scenario one; Iām driving along a s/c road and a vehicle pulls out from a side road and I T bone him.
Scenario two ; I pull out from a side road in front of a vehicle which then T bones me.
In both scenarios my driver facing camera shows me behind the wheel. Iām not holding a mobile phone on either occasion nor am I smoking a crack pipe. So Iām at fault in one scenario but not the other, how exactly has that reduced the premium and what exactly has the camera proved?
Furthermore letās say on both occasions Iām busily perusing āā ā ā ā and seventyā or whatever, the camera shows me doing this. Is my insurance company going to give this footage to the third party insurer? Not likely, so again I ask how this has reduced the premiums?
Donāt believe everything youāre fed.
the maoster:
Iām intrigued as to why people believe the line that driver facing cameras reduce insurance premiums.Scenario one; Iām driving along a s/c road and a vehicle pulls out from a side road and I T bone him.
Scenario two ; I pull out from a side road in front of a vehicle which then T bones me.
In both scenarios my driver facing camera shows me behind the wheel. Iām not holding a mobile phone on either occasion nor am I smoking a crack pipe. So Iām at fault in one scenario but not the other, how exactly has that reduced the premium and what exactly has the camera proved?
Furthermore letās say on both occasions Iām busily perusing āā ā ā ā and seventyā or whatever, the camera shows me doing this. Is my insurance company going to give this footage to the third party insurer? Not likely, so again I ask how this has reduced the premiums?
Donāt believe everything youāre fed.
If you know there is a camera there, that may well discourage your behaving badly.
If you know you will be seen to have driven badly, you might not drive badly in the first place.
Hence the argument for high visibility policing made by some here. Lots of cop cars mean fewer offences. Same argument.
Behaving badly doesnāt translate to lower insurance premiums. Thatās my argument, not whether Bogdan/Kevin or Julie adjusts their behaviour or not.
The Moaster.
A quick google search would indicate there seems to be money saved by having these cameras.I dont believe they would pay to have them fitted if it were not the case.If you put yourself in their shoes,they are trying to make more profit ,are they not? Isnt that what its all aboutā¦