I note an ad from Scania. This is a quote from it
we have the highest DVSA pass rate in the industry
Prove it!! There is no way they can.
Pete 
Advertising Standards Authority might be interested in that claimā¦
Pete donāt let it upset you. You absolutely know pass rates are irrelevant.
Pass rates canāt be quantified. Are they based based on a month, a year, a week? We both at least take photos of passes.
In fairness Scania arenāt bad. In football terms theyāre probably league 1
Pete donāt let it upset you. You absolutely know pass rates are irrelevant.
Pass rates canāt be quantified. Are they based based on a month, a year, a week? We both at least take photos of passes.
In fairness Scania arenāt bad. In football terms theyāre probably league 1
Too late: Iām already upset! I believe pass rates are relevant to a candidateās purchasing decision on some occasions - certainly not all though. The claim is made to indicate that they are better than other trainers. This would be fine if they could back it up with numbers. But those of us in the industry know that they cant. Even if they can prove their own numbers, which they should be able to, they have no access to other schoolsā pass rates. So itās nonsense.
In football terms they can be whatever they like. But this is folksā savings and careers on the line and I take that somewhat seriously.
In an industry riddled with āiffyā practices, I am amazed that a company with the status of Scania should make such a claim. And disappointed. I would have expected better from a company that is acknowledged as being a leader in itās field ie making trucks.
Pete
So I passed with Scania
Brand New Truck & Trailer
First person to learn in it
First person to take a test in it
First person to pass in it
So that makes it 100% pass rate!!
But you are absolutely right in your post, they just donāt have the stats to compare against each other!!
On your other note about choicesā¦my experience was after passing my Class 2 I sent an email to 5 training schools for Class 1 and only one was responsive and I think it has a lot to do with what test they have available before they reply back to youā¦in all the quotes were Ā£995 to Ā£1350 and as the highest was the only to respond I had no choice to go with them (at least in a new truck).
My Class 2 was a nightmare as we went through 3 trucks (with minor problems) and could only take their best one so the examiner would not get upsetā¦
my experience was after passing my Class 2 I sent an email to 5 training schools for Class 1 and only one was responsive and I think it has a lot to do with what test they have available before they reply back to you
Thatās very similar to my own experience. I appreciate a number of the training schools are probably one man bands but the lack of (or slow) response to emails is perhaps why the brokers scoop up a large chunk of business.
Have you asked them if they can prove it Pete?
I donāt need to. As there is no statistical information for the vast majority of trainers, itās impossible to make the statement.
Pete
Peter Smythe:
I donāt need to. As there is no statistical information for the vast majority of trainers, itās impossible to make the statement.Pete
Thatās not really what I meant, I mean have you challenged then on whether they should be making that statement?
Been reading this with interest. Iāve got my hazard perception on Wednesday and then module 2, 2 weeks later. I was thinking of going with Scania because their website says āItās possible to combine your Category C and Category C+E licence training, then take the tests back to backā. A quick google around and it seems you need to send your license off with your class C pass certificate before you can start C+E. Is this another incorrect claim by Scania?
It is 100% impossible to do both courses back to back i.e. The following day. For example if you pass the Cat C test on 1st Oct your new licence will say Cat C is valid from 1st Oct but the Cat CE provisional wlll be dated from the date DVLA physically add it on perhaps 13th Oct. so before the 13th, in this example you would not be licenced to drive CE before the 13th.
The rules are slightly different for MOD related licences because they get both groups added as provisional from the start.
The difficulty is that a potential candidate probably bases his purchasing decision on perceived reputation and the website in the absence of recommendation (which is always favourite).
In this particular case, there are at least two glaring errors in the website. Firstly the unprovable claim to have the highest pass rate in the country and, secondly, the possibility of doing CE immediately after C. āItās possible to combine your Category C and Category C+E licence training, then take the tests back to backā
But this is a direct contradiction when itās a company such as Scania with a reputation that some would eat their right arm for.
In the absence of a rock solid recommendation, I would suggest sticking to one of the trainers actually accredited by DVSA for the provision of LGV driver training. The list is here:
Pete
Thanks LGV trainer & Pete for your replies. Pete your right the information on the website does sway a potential customer. Iāve a promise of a job based on passing and wanted to get it done asap so the claim of back to back was appealing.
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Thanks LGV trainer & Pete for your replies. Pete your right the information on the website does sway a potential customer. Iāve a promise of a job based on passing and wanted to get it done asap so the claim of back to back was appealing.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As previously mentioned Scania CANNOT get you tested any quicker than any other training provider because the system simply doesnāt allow for back to back testing.
Wondering what else they are promising that cant be delivered - donāt suppose they have anyone on the forum??
Pass rates can vary for so many reasons, they may insist the pupil takes twice as many lessons. Which may be a good thing but will also cost a lot more money, they may also drop the pupils they have less confidence in, neither scenario will look good on a advertising hoarding.
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