Keep seeing the word “Professional” plastered around this thread, how can I put it simply…
Reef:
Keep seeing the word “Professional” plastered around this thread, how can I put it simply…0
What do you think it means?
muckles:
Reef:
Keep seeing the word “Professional” plastered around this thread, how can I put it simply…0
What do you think it means?
It means a multitude of things, my point is a lot seem to think it means they are on par with Doctors or instantaneously the crème de la crème of road users, why, what do you think it means?
Reef:
muckles:
Reef:
Keep seeing the word “Professional” plastered around this thread, how can I put it simply…0
What do you think it means?
It means a multitude of things, my point is a lot seem to think it means they are on par with Doctors or instantaneously the crème de la crème of road users, why, what do you think it means?
Well in this case I think the OP is quite correct to use the word Professional to separate those who are being paid to drive from those who aren’t being paid to drive.
Professional is also being used as a slang term for somebody who is good at what they do, although this might not be the correct usage in the purest dictionary definition of the word, English is a living, evolving language, many words change their meaning over time and the new usage becomes acceptable. I had a youth tell me our racing car was “sick” which apparently meant it was really good, even “cool” but then that would be another word where its slang meaning has now entered the dictionary.
Reef:
Keep seeing the word “Professional” plastered around this thread, how can I put it simply…0
Yes indeed. In fact it’s the first word of the thread’s title.
I saw “Logistics” on the side of loads of trailers today, can anybody beat that?
Drempels:
Sand Fisher:
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Yeah, I know where every hill in the country is and how much every other vehicle weighs, don’t you?
Let me make it simple:
I am doing 53 MPH, I weigh 40t
You are doing 56 MPH, you weigh 25t
You catch up with me over the course of a few miles, you start to overtake me, and we get to a downward gradient (say on the M74). As you pass me, I let my vehicle roll, hanging you out for however long it takes for the gradient to end, instead of just keeping to 53 MPH and letting what is going to happen anyway, happen. In the process, all I achieve is annoying you and everybody behind you who wants to overtake.
Is that clear enough?
I don’t know why you have to be so aggressive to a simple question. To me it looks like you are not observing properly. Why bother overtaking someone who is going to go hell for leather? I wouldn’t expect a truck to stick to 53 going down the M74 south of Abington say, I’d expect 56 (ish) unless you are a Microlise freak or a crane!
Not sure if we are talking at cross purposes either but equally I hate the prats trying to overtake me doing that at at about 1/4mph more than me. If you are overtaking it is your look out is to get past, surely? However as posted here the other week if it is uphill and the overtaker is struggling then yes back off a few clicks absolutely, but downhill in most instances we’d all be doing a similar speed in my experience. Hey ho. Personally I tend to overtake going uphill but having been driving trucks since the 1970’s wtf do I know.
I tend to work from the premise that we’re all trying to do a job and not trying to screw other truck drivers over. However car drivers IMO seem to have no appreciation of speed limiters and the ability to actually watch the road and at least anticipate when someone might come out/want to come out.
TheUncaringCowboy:
Sand Fisher:
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Neither of those do 60+.
It gives me a good feeling knowing that going much faster than you irritates you.
I still do 62 on single carriageways never mind dual carriageways. I hope that irritates you.
Well at least you admit you’re a cowboy. Your licence get on with it. Any other rules you don’t obey drugs, drink?
It doesn’t irritate me that you go faster than me but idiot so called lgv drivers who can’t obey the law give the rest of us a bad name.
FWIW Russells recently disciplined drivers doing in excess not of 60 but 70mph. Suppose that would be on the slow side for you then.
Sand Fisher:
Drempels:
Sand Fisher:
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Yeah, I know where every hill in the country is and how much every other vehicle weighs, don’t you?
Let me make it simple:
I am doing 53 MPH, I weigh 40t
You are doing 56 MPH, you weigh 25t
You catch up with me over the course of a few miles, you start to overtake me, and we get to a downward gradient (say on the M74). As you pass me, I let my vehicle roll, hanging you out for however long it takes for the gradient to end, instead of just keeping to 53 MPH and letting what is going to happen anyway, happen. In the process, all I achieve is annoying you and everybody behind you who wants to overtake.
Is that clear enough?
I don’t know why you have to be so aggressive to a simple question. To me it looks like you are not observing properly. Why bother overtaking someone who is going to go hell for leather? I wouldn’t expect a truck to stick to 53 going down the M74 south of Abington say, I’d expect 56 (ish) unless you are a Microlise freak or a crane!
Not sure if we are talking at cross purposes either but equally I hate the prats trying to overtake me doing that at at about 1/4mph more than me. If you are overtaking it is your look out is to get past, surely? However as posted here the other week if it is uphill and the overtaker is struggling then yes back off a few clicks absolutely, but downhill in most instances we’d all be doing a similar speed in my experience. Hey ho. Personally I tend to overtake going uphill but having been driving trucks since the 1970’s wtf do I know.
I tend to work from the premise that we’re all trying to do a job and not trying to screw other truck drivers over. However car drivers IMO seem to have no appreciation of speed limiters and the ability to actually watch the road and at least anticipate when someone might come out/want to come out.
Aggressive? You realise you’ve been doing it arseways since 1970 and ask wtf do I know?
You couldn’t make this ■■■■ up.