Drempels:
I should never have to overtake a car on a motorway. Fair enough, if you’ve got a problem that restricts you to 50 MPH, but every one of these morons that sit there doing 53.92343 MPH and hang you out for five minutes when you try to overtake them, even after giving them plenty of time to speed up or slow down a bit, could just back off when being overtaken, surely?
The best ones are the ones who give you big flashes after doing so, as if they’re doing you a favour… They can [zb] right off.
Yup, these and the Vario-Speed artists - constantly changing speed from 48 - 55. And then they complain because their diesel engines get all carboned up - but they do get 91 mpg - and bore the arse off anyone who listen going on about it.
Drempels:
I should never have to overtake a car on a motorway. Fair enough, if you’ve got a problem that restricts you to 50 MPH, but every one of these morons that sit there doing 53.92343 MPH and hang you out for five minutes when you try to overtake them, even after giving them plenty of time to speed up or slow down a bit, could just back off when being overtaken, surely?
The best ones are the ones who give you big flashes after doing so, as if they’re doing you a favour… They can [zb] right off.
Yup, these and the Vario-Speed artists - constantly changing speed from 48 - 55. And then they complain because their diesel engines get all carboned up - but they do get 91 mpg - and bore the arse off anyone who listen going on about it.
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.
I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate ■■■■■ that do that.
^^^, my Mrs reckons it’s a control thing, they’re probably hen pecked at home, their ■■■■■■■■ removed years ago and she’s wearing them for earrings, their colleagues can’t stand them nor can their boss, their kids probably hate them too.
But out on the road they can, from the safety of their tin box, finally mess someone else about, force others for a little while to comply with their whims and always ready with the dash cam should you step out of their pedantic directions, they would have made excellent traffic wardens at one time and are probably itching for our country to go full Stazi when they can fulfil their true vocation in life as state spies/informers/apparatchiks…notice how they stick rigidly to some farm tractor speed whilst on a 2 way road where there is no opportunity to overtake, but the second an overtaking lane or better still a dual carriageways appears, whoosh off they go…till the next 2 ways road appears and back to farm tractor mode.
Juddian:
^^^, my Mrs reckons it’s a control thing, they’re probably hen pecked at home, their ■■■■■■■■ removed years ago and she’s wearing them for earrings, their colleagues can’t stand them nor can their boss, their kids probably hate them too.
But out on the road they can, from the safety of their tin box, finally mess someone else about, force others for a little while to comply with their whims and always ready with the dash cam should you step out of their pedantic directions, they would have made excellent traffic wardens at one time and are probably itching for our country to go full Stazi when they can fulfil their true vocation in life as state spies/informers/apparatchiks…notice how they stick rigidly to some farm tractor speed whilst on a 2 way road where there is no opportunity to overtake, but the second an overtaking lane or better still a dual carriageways appears, whoosh off they go…till the next 2 ways road appears and back to farm tractor mode.
What a great description! Next one I come across, I’ll think of this and see if laughing at the clowns makes me feel better. Cheers!
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Yep, had it many a time. Unforunately some like to pay games or that what it seems like to me. Number of times I have looked over and the moron is laughing as if it’s funny.
Childish and totally unprofessional.
Juddian:
^^^, my Mrs reckons it’s a control thing, they’re probably hen pecked at home, their ■■■■■■■■ removed years ago and she’s wearing them for earrings, their colleagues can’t stand them nor can their boss, their kids probably hate them too.
But out on the road they can, from the safety of their tin box, finally mess someone else about, force others for a little while to comply with their whims and always ready with the dash cam should you step out of their pedantic directions, they would have made excellent traffic wardens at one time and are probably itching for our country to go full Stazi when they can fulfil their true vocation in life as state spies/informers/apparatchiks…notice how they stick rigidly to some farm tractor speed whilst on a 2 way road where there is no opportunity to overtake, but the second an overtaking lane or better still a dual carriageways appears, whoosh off they go…till the next 2 ways road appears and back to farm tractor mode.
This ^^^^^^^ over and over again. Very sad people but they are out there.
Juddian:
There can be a world of difference between someone who drives professionally and a vocational driver, sometimes the two are happy bedfellows, often they are not.
Proper drivers accept that others may not be so skilled in vehicle control, and those who drive for a living should not expect others, who don’t drive for a living, to be up to what they/we assume to be our standards.
The good lorry driver makes allowances for others, and copes with all that comes their way without reacting like some petulant child.
The same goes for many car drivers too, who display more competent driving skills than some of the sad excuses who sit behind the wheels of lorries these days.
I don’t quite get the insistence on flashing in, lots of other people at the wheel of lorries must think i’m ignorant, i do flash others in but only when they’ve passed by to a reasonable distance, in too many instances they are back in lane 1 in front of me before a car’s length has been forged between us, what point is there in flashing that sort of twerp.
Incidentally, it’s almost always people behind the wheel of UK lorries that cut in, seldom a foreign regd motor.
Agreed. When I am being overtaken I flash in when the outer o/s of the trailer has just come into view inside the o/s windscreen pillar. When overtaking I wait for the flash but if not forthcoming about 1/3 from the top of the n/s mirror seems good to go.
I’d say about a half of artics cut in far too soon, usually the speed merchants!
As posted on here before to me the flash isn’t ‘ok drive you’re past me you can come in now’, but more like ‘ok drive I am happy you have left me enough space, you can come in now.’
jakethesnake: Proper drivers accept that others may not be so skilled in vehicle control, and those who drive for a living should not expect others, who don’t drive for a living, to be up to what they/we assume to be our standards.
It’s just a pity more would not realise this especially when their own standards are not so good.
It isn’t a matter of vehicle control, it’s about driving to the highway code! That and being reasonable and not a selfish bar steward, which a lot of car drivers are.
A common one is, as experienced today on Scotland’s beautiful (ha, ha) two lane motorways Quite busy, approaching slower moving truck in front, assessing opportunity of overtaking but notice a car nearly on me, then a gap then a white Mercedes car then a stream of cars, with no opportunity to overtake. Waits till nearly on me car is too close, indicates to move into the gap behind him and yeah, you guessed it super selfish bar steward in the Merc sees what I am trying to do so starts to accelerate. No pal, not having it. Am out quick which of course irritates Mr/Mrs Selfish Bar-Steward so consequently gets abuse as (s)he overtakes me after I’ve pulled in. That sort of behaviour really peeves me off.
A good reason for not pulling over into lane 2 to let them on in the first place. The sort of driver who’ll then accelerate, leaving you out in lane 2 after you’ve done them a favour.
All for courtesy, but it has to be two way.
Driving ain’t difficult. Just don’t be selfish. Road space is at a premium and we all want to get there.
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.
I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
We’re supposed to be professional drivers. So can’t we make allowances? Car drivers are professionals too. It’s just that they’re doctors or teachers or engineers, or tradesmen . . . whatever. They’re not professional drivers. They’re going to work, or going home, or going to church or going to Tesco. It doesn’t matter. They’re basically in our office space and we have to put up with them. It’s their right to be on the road because they’ve passed their test and passed their credit check to buy a car. It’s annoying, I know, but when it comes to driving, we’re supposed to be professional. So a bit of tolerance and understanding please.
Ha Ha. Good luck with that! The motorway signs saying “Be A Courteous Driver” always raises a smile.
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.
I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Yeah, I know where every hill in the country is and how much every other vehicle weighs, don’t you?
Let me make it simple:
I am doing 53 MPH, I weigh 40t
You are doing 56 MPH, you weigh 25t
You catch up with me over the course of a few miles, you start to overtake me, and we get to a downward gradient (say on the M74). As you pass me, I let my vehicle roll, hanging you out for however long it takes for the gradient to end, instead of just keeping to 53 MPH and letting what is going to happen anyway, happen. In the process, all I achieve is annoying you and everybody behind you who wants to overtake.
Drempels:
I should never have to overtake a car on a motorway.
Yup, these and the Vario-Speed artists - constantly changing speed from 48 - 55. And then they complain because their diesel engines get all carboned up - but they do get 91 mpg - and bore the arse off anyone who listen going on about it.
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance,
So, flat out on cruise control in heavy rain? perhaps a trip along the motorway in heavy rain in the car is called for, to recall what it is like down amongst all the spray rather than sitting on the first floor! a small car has about 200 kg on each tyre trying to squeeze out all the water - not 3 tonnes. I was out in my small car on Saturday on the M2 and A2 in similar conditions and I was doing exactly that - regulating my speed between 48 and 55 according to how far ahead I could see and how much standing water there was. However there were very few HGV out and those that were did not attempt to overtake me. The white vans, Mercedes, BMWs and Audis were still doing 80 though.
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.
I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Neither of those do 60+.
It gives me a good feeling knowing that going much faster than you irritates you.
I still do 62 on single carriageways never mind dual carriageways. I hope that irritates you.
Drempels:
I should never have to overtake a car on a motorway.
Yup, these and the Vario-Speed artists - constantly changing speed from 48 - 55. And then they complain because their diesel engines get all carboned up - but they do get 91 mpg - and bore the arse off anyone who listen going on about it.
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance,
So, flat out on cruise control in heavy rain? perhaps a trip along the motorway in heavy rain in the car is called for, to recall what it is like down amongst all the spray rather than sitting on the first floor! a small car has about 200 kg on each tyre trying to squeeze out all the water - not 3 tonnes. I was out in my small car on Saturday on the M2 and A2 in similar conditions and I was doing exactly that - regulating my speed between 48 and 55 according to how far ahead I could see and how much standing water there was. However there were very few HGV out and those that were did not attempt to overtake me. The white vans, Mercedes, BMWs and Audis were still doing 80 though.
Yeah, I never drive my any of my cars or bikes in heavy rain
How did the other 99.9% of people manage to do 70 and get on with their lives then?
Drempels:
They must read this forum, cos they were lying in wait for me today… Heavy rain on the M1 from about Leicester to the Leeds area, I lost count of the 48–55 brigade that were out. I don’t expect car drivers to be professional, but I do expect them to be able to maintain a constant speed over a reasonable distance, and not accelerate when being overtaken - it’s in The Highway Code somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, most of us do care about others, I don’t want to delay the people behind me for any longer than necessary, especially when somebody (in any vehicle) does me the courtesy of letting me out into faster moving traffic.
I don’t know what they get out of it, I can’t do it to people. If somebody’s struggling to get past me, I just lift off for a few seconds, job done. Where is the pleasure in making somebody’s day a bit more stressful?
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
Don’t get that - sorry. If you ease off the gas going downhill i.e. use gravity, you are saving fuel a sensible way to drive and an efficient one. If you are meaning you overtake vehicles going downhill and they accelerate then I might question your logic.
It would be rare to come to another truck and not have some awareness of what they are doing as you’ve been following them for a bit. Now you must have played the overtaking game a few times surely?
You are on a long run, a get it a few times going down south but this is more typical coming north for some reason. You may be medium freighted you overtake a boy as I did the other week and then going downhill he’s on you like a Me 109 and hurtles past you at a rate of knots. ok me thinks. Next m-way hill you catch him again, sure enough he thunders past you the other side. To me I don’t get fed up with that because he/she has clearly got a heavy load on and what with the momentum they are happy to go hurtling down at plus 56. If it goes on long enough I even wave as we overtake each other. Great for the Microlise wallahs having ■■■■■■■ at a C&U infringement but that is the driver’s look out not mine. The lad maybe is on a schedule and is ‘heavy’, me maybe 14 tonne on. So what. So long as they don’t drive like an ar5e you soon realise the crack. I would agree you couldn’t really do that down south as traffic volumes would mitigate against that, but on the quieter M74, ■■■■■■■■ M6, it’s commonplace.
What irritates me more are the guys doing a permanent 60+ (in Scotland that is probably SNT or Pringles) or who think that a dual carriageway A road is in fact a m-way so it’s legal to do 56. Not here it is pal.
Neither of those do 60+.
It gives me a good feeling knowing that going much faster than you irritates you.
I still do 62 on single carriageways never mind dual carriageways. I hope that irritates you.
Neither of them do anything like that speed. Why are people bothered? If your lorry does 65 MPH, good luck to you, how is it any skin off my nose?
You overtake, flash flash, have a safe one. No bother.
Funny that, because one of the conversation topics among the professional and ex professional drivers at the event I attended, was that the lunatics were out on the roads this morning.
cav551:
Funny that, because one of the conversation topics among the professional and ex professional drivers at the event I attended, was that the lunatics were out on the roads this morning.
jakethesnake:
Worse still are the fellow professionals who when being overtaken on a downhill stretch, think that the correct course of action is to let their vehicle accelerate by means of gravity, I cannot express how much I hate [zb] that do that.
edd1974:
Bad as idot on the m6 saturday morning.
I wasn’t in the road work section not much traffic about was 7am sat morning.
Started to approach an 88reg Kia 4x4 thing. Doing about 50 in lane 1 . So I thought need to overtake. The next min she/he pulls over into middle lane stays doing 50.
Lane 1 is empty lane 2 is empty. So I’m sat there doing 48 as don’t want undertake.
Then I approach a slip road with few cars joining m6 so I pull into middle lane. Behind the kia.
Who then immediately pulls into lame 3 still doing 50. After a few mins I decide to do an undertake. I complete this then the kia pulls back into lane 1
This has happened to me m1 rugby way,catching up to a dawdler doing 47 in roadworks,the bloke doesn’t like what he sees in his mirror so flits into lane 3 and sits there.There’s some weird ■■■■ at large these days.
edd1974:
Bad as idot on the m6 saturday morning.
I wasn’t in the road work section not much traffic about was 7am sat morning.
Started to approach an 88reg Kia 4x4 thing. Doing about 50 in lane 1 . So I thought need to overtake. The next min she/he pulls over into middle lane stays doing 50.
Lane 1 is empty lane 2 is empty. So I’m sat there doing 48 as don’t want undertake.
Then I approach a slip road with few cars joining m6 so I pull into middle lane. Behind the kia.
Who then immediately pulls into lame 3 still doing 50. After a few mins I decide to do an undertake. I complete this then the kia pulls back into lane 1
This has happened to me m1 rugby way,catching up to a dawdler doing 47 in roadworks,the bloke doesn’t like what he sees in his mirror so flits into lane 3 and sits there.There’s some weird [zb] at large these days.
I do a lot of night driving and that’s quite common in the roadworks at night.
I just go past in lane 1 on the basis that I have not changed speed or direction
Quite busy, approaching slower moving truck in front, assessing opportunity of overtaking but notice a car nearly on me, then a gap then a white Mercedes car then a stream of cars, with no opportunity to overtake. Waits till nearly on me car is too close, indicates to move into the gap behind him and yeah, you guessed it super selfish bar steward in the Merc sees what I am trying to do so starts to accelerate. No pal, not having it. Am out quick which of course irritates Mr/Mrs Selfish Bar-Steward so consequently gets abuse as (s)he overtakes me after I’ve pulled in. That sort of behaviour really peeves me off.