The choice of car models that will be available to the mass market motorist (i.e. Me) after the 2021 CO2 regulations comes into effect and over the next decade will look very different to today’s market. 
This is a good piece as to what we can look forward too 
. forbes.com/sites/neilwinton … 900560111e
Strange how a country that is supposedly leaving the EU seems to be subject to its rules.
While the whole premise is based on the choice between fossil fuel or electric when hydrogen fuelled ICE can work fine with no changes needed from cars as we know them.Or for that matter for this to work all classic/older vehicles will obviously also need to be banned.So let’s get this right the EU elites will no longer get access to the S class Merc only EV micro cars and they also intend to trash the Classic and used Car markets not to mention the new large car market ,at the cost of billions.While making the supply of fossil fuels for the civil aviation industry economically unsustainable because it will no longer be sharing the cost of each barrel of unrefined crude oil,for its kerosene usage,with private car users.That’ll work.
Leaving the question of the equivalent costs of electricity v fossil fuel + road fuel taxation on a cost per mile basis.
Carryfast:
Strange how a country that is supposedly leaving the EU seems to be subject to its rules.While the whole premise is based on the choice between fossil fuel or electric when hydrogen fuelled ICE can work fine with no changes needed from cars as we know them.Or for that matter for this to work all classic/older vehicles will obviously also need to be banned.So let’s get this right the EU elites will no longer get access to the S class Merc only EV micro cars and they also intend to trash the Classic and used Car markets not to mention the new large car market ,at the cost of billions.While making the supply of fossil fuels for the civil aviation industry economically unsustainable because it will no longer be sharing the cost of each barrel of unrefined crude oil,for its kerosene usage,with private car users.That’ll work.
Leaving the question of the equivalent costs of electricity v fossil fuel + road fuel taxation on a cost per mile basis.
It’s as much to do with the Paris climate accord the UK is signed up to as well as the EU, these measures are apart of that agreement to get vehicle emissions down.
The affluent will still be driving around in prestige BEV’s as these measures wont effect them, the likes of Tesla,Mercedes,Audi,Jaguar etc are only producing top end expensive EV’s at the moment in the £50K-£100K price range. 
They say they cant make money on mass market cars as there’s no profit margin in them, all major car manufacturers are partnered with Chinese car manufacturers making cars in China and have factories there, It must be the only place left where they can make a profit…for the time being.
BMW are to build car factories in Thailand land now, must be the new China as the labour costs are less.
The old/classic car thing is a nightmare, It will be a huge blow to that industry. I’ve owned old classic cars all my life until I retired and couldn’t do the maintenance and running costs. I read a UK transport cross party piece a while ago that said they would have to close a loophole to stop people using classic cars with worse emissions then the cars now.
Diesel only trains in the UK face the same thing in the same time period as cars also.
I dare say they will make running pre Euro cat 5 vehicles more expensive in fuel prices to dissuade people from using them.
It doesn’t bode well for motorist or car workers across UK/Europe as there will be a skilled workforce in an industry that will be consigned to history in a decade.
I think I’ll get me a yellow vest from ebay before they’re all gone.
lancpudn:
Carryfast:
Strange how a country that is supposedly leaving the EU seems to be subject to its rules.While the whole premise is based on the choice between fossil fuel or electric when hydrogen fuelled ICE can work fine with no changes needed from cars as we know them.Or for that matter for this to work all classic/older vehicles will obviously also need to be banned.So let’s get this right the EU elites will no longer get access to the S class Merc only EV micro cars and they also intend to trash the Classic and used Car markets not to mention the new large car market ,at the cost of billions.While making the supply of fossil fuels for the civil aviation industry economically unsustainable because it will no longer be sharing the cost of each barrel of unrefined crude oil,for its kerosene usage,with private car users.That’ll work.
Leaving the question of the equivalent costs of electricity v fossil fuel + road fuel taxation on a cost per mile basis.
It’s as much to do with the Paris climate accord the UK is signed up to as well as the EU, these measures are apart of that agreement to get vehicle emissions down.
The affluent will still be driving around in prestige BEV’s as these measures wont effect them, the likes of Tesla,Mercedes,Audi,Jaguar etc are only producing top end expensive EV’s at the moment in the £50K-£100K price range.They say they cant make money on mass market cars as there’s no profit margin in them, all major car manufacturers are partnered with Chinese car manufacturers making cars in China and have factories there, It must be the only place left where they can make a profit…for the time being.
BMW are to build car factories in Thailand land now, must be the new China as the labour costs are less.The old/classic car thing is a nightmare, It will be a huge blow to that industry. I’ve owned old classic cars all my life until I retired and couldn’t do the maintenance and running costs. I read a UK transport cross party piece a while ago that said they would have to close a loophole to stop people using classic cars with worse emissions then the cars now.
Diesel only trains in the UK face the same thing in the same time period as cars also.I dare say they will make running pre Euro cat 5 vehicles more expensive in fuel prices to dissuade people from using them.
It doesn’t bode well for motorist or car workers across UK/Europe as there will be a skilled workforce in an industry that will be consigned to history in a decade.
I think I’ll get me a yellow vest from ebay before they’re all gone.
As I said I think hydrogen fuelling conversions will save conventional/classic ICE powered vehicles and resulting natural supply and demand creating the required infrastructure.There’s too much money at stake for anything other.
But I also think that the civil aviation industry will blink first when reality dawns as to how much a gallon of kerosene will cost when it no longer has the road fuel sector sharing the cost and market of every barrel of crude it uses.IE the economies of scale in terms of the fossil fuel supply chain will be thrown into chaos.
On that note I haven’t heard anything about classics and used vehicle use,or for that matter all road use diesel and petrol sales,being banned from 2021.In which case I’m sure that we’d be getting some notice of the change by now.Bearing in mind that fuel costs are relatively irrelevant in the case of something which is only used for around 5,000 miles pa.While if not you can bet that the classic market would already have collapsed costing loads of money and jobs.Possibly to the point of a similar negative equity crash fro the banks along the lines of the property price crashes we’ve seen previously.
Make no mistake this is all about a corporate coup creating a captive market for the elites who run the major energy providers.Which leaves the question of will there be more losers among the elites and bankers who get hit by the loss of the conventional/classic car market and the financial chaos in the civil aviation industry,than there are winners with an interest in nuclear power generation.Let alone when the first major nuclear power plant or nuclear waste disaster takes place in Europe followed by the backlash against these corrupt scumbags.
We’ll possibly have Prime Minister Farage in 2022, and he’s more than likely to do what his mate Trump did and ignore the Paris self destruct climate debacle completely.
I wouldn’t be flogging your older cars just yet, look after them, they still be running fine when this new junk is only fit for the scrapper, banned from city centres? thank the good Lord for that i hate the bloody places.
I see Ford have just announced the closure of the engine plant in Bridgend and news of the BMW group joining forces with Jaguar Land Rover and Toyota joining forces with Subaru to make BEV’s and share E-mobility technology and lower costs of transitioning to electric cars.
Will any manufacturer be building ICE engines in the near future!!!