The other day I was told about one of the graduated fixed penalties by our union shop steward that I had overlooked when I first read the offences and fines.
It is as follows :
DRIVERS’ RECORDS FIXED PENALTIES
Infringement
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection (other than failure to provide sufficient printing material), in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £120.00
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection by a failure to provide sufficient printing material, in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £60.00
How would we be able to ensure this without taking a needless printout before the start of the journey?
Also it was mentioned that you should be able to show proper understanding of how to operate the tacho in the event of manual entries etc. Is this true?
all i would do is take a print out once a week and that would show you new it was printing,or you could open the paper tray and close it a bit of paper will come out, and carry paper rolls with you at least 1 spare so there can do a print out if there wanted to
Limestone Cowboy:
The other day I was told about one of the graduated fixed penalties by our union shop steward that I had overlooked when I first read the offences and fines.
It is as follows :
DRIVERS’ RECORDS FIXED PENALTIES
Infringement
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection (other than failure to provide sufficient printing material), in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £120.00
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection by a failure to provide sufficient printing material, in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £60.00
How would we be able to ensure this without taking a needless printout before the start of the journey?
Also it was mentioned that you should be able to show proper understanding of how to operate the tacho in the event of manual entries etc. Is this true?
Hi LC,
There’s no need to make a print-out, all it says/means is that you should have enough paper to make one if needed and that it’s an offence if you don’t have sufficient printer paper with you.
I reckon Del has it right about printing the little piece just before you set off, then you can show that the printer works correctly.
IIRC, A printout is only needed when the driver card is lost, damaged or malfunctions in some way.
Limestone Cowboy:
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection (other than failure to provide sufficient printing material), in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation.
£120.00
Hi LC,
all it says/means is that you should have enough paper to make one if needed and that it’s an offence if you don’t have sufficient printer paper with you.
That’s not the way it reads to me Dave
Does anyone have a link to the full list of VOSAs fixed penalties ?
Limestone Cowboy:
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection (other than failure to provide sufficient printing material), in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation.
£120.00
Hi LC,
all it says/means is that you should have enough paper to make one if needed and that it’s an offence if you don’t have sufficient printer paper with you.
That’s not the way it reads to me Dave
Does anyone have a link to the full list of VOSAs fixed penalties ?
I haven’t had time to go through the fixed penalties thoroughly but it looks like there is a £120 fixed penalty for using a digital tachograph that can’t do printouts, I guess that doing a printout check every couple of weeks or so is about the only safe way to go.
Apart from that it looks as though pleading ignorance may get you off with just a verbal warning for a first offence
Limestone Cowboy:
Also it was mentioned that you should be able to show proper understanding of how to operate the tacho in the event of manual entries etc. Is this true?
I haven’t had time to go through it thoroughly but it looks like there’s a possible £120 fixed penalty for not doing manual entries for work done whilst not able to use the tachograph, so it makes sense to be able to show that you know how to do manual entries.
I haven’t yet seen any offence for not knowing how to do manual entries though you are supposed to know how to use the tachograph in the vehicle you’re driving.
It would be an indicator to VOSA that you probably haven’t complied with the regulations and would likely lead to more exhaustive checks if you showed no knowledge of how to do manual entries, so yes it is possible that they would check your knowledge on the subject.
your welcome mate have a good read, i think it a way to get the driver to do the vehicle checks and its would be 15 mins going on what you can get fined for
You can always start a printout, let it print a couple of lines so you can see it is working, then cancel the printout.
On a Siemens VDO unit start the printout as normal and as soon as it starts printing press the OK button. It then displays -
Cancel printout
no
Press one of the arrow keys to change the no to yes, then press OK and the printout stops. This will only use a couple of centimetres of paper so not too wasteful. This small printout will have the date and time on the third line so if you did this at the start of each week and kept it you could show it as proof you have checked the unit is printing.
Limestone Cowboy:
The other day I was told about one of the graduated fixed penalties by our union shop steward that I had overlooked when I first read the offences and fines.
It is as follows :
DRIVERS’ RECORDS FIXED PENALTIES
Infringement
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection (other than failure to provide sufficient printing material), in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £120.00
Failure to ensure that printing can be carried out correctly in the event of an inspection by a failure to provide sufficient printing material, in accordance with Article 14(1) of the community regulation. £60.00
How would we be able to ensure this without taking a needless printout before the start of the journey?
Also it was mentioned that you should be able to show proper understanding of how to operate the tacho in the event of manual entries etc. Is this true?
most by now no how to do manual entries but aint doing them because by not doing them you can earn more money .
sit round for 3 hrs , bung card in and work for 15 hrs, put 15 hrs on todays sheet and 3 on tomorrows or your first short day ,as long as you clear it with the boss its o.k
amazing how many ive heard this from
Well Ady,I’m pretty new to digital, and my first manual attempt reading the stoneridge quick start guide about starting the day with no driver card inserted resulted in one hell of a monumental ■■■■ up I somehow managed to link yesterday up with today
Still, I’ve just spent the last hour and a half on my PC with the tachograph simulator program and a) I realise what I did wrong. And b) I’m pretty confident I’ll know what to do next time.
Limestone Cowboy:
Well Ady,I’m pretty new to digital, and my first manual attempt reading the stoneridge quick start guide about starting the day with no driver card inserted resulted in one hell of a monumental ■■■■ up I somehow managed to link yesterday up with today
Still, I’ve just spent the last hour and a half on my PC with the tachograph simulator program and a) I realise what I did wrong. And b) I’m pretty confident I’ll know what to do next time.
yea there not easy to start with, i had a few working 24 hrs but eventually by psevering i got there [used simulator and instruction from off ice and im now o.k.in time itll make sense and only take you a few minutes to put your manual entry
I somehow managed to link yesterday up with today 