Winseer:
Whos does pay “overtime after 40 hours” these days?
We do, and for Saturday working. Sundays and Bank Holidays double time and a day in lieu for the BH. Weekend working doesn’t happen a great deal but there is some.
My guys get overtime after 8 hours, time and a third Saturday morning, double time Saturday afternoon and Sunday. Slightly different to most as we are in the removals industry
One ends up with a trade off between “Contracted 48 hours that create a basic pay of £600pw” (£12.50ph) or you can have “40 hours with hours after that paid at time and a half” which requires an hourly rate of , say, £11.54ph to end up with practically the same amount. What you don’t want to be doing in that case is dropping back to the £10ph that might have pleased myself a couple of years back, but we can hopefully now see behind us for good.
I didn’t leave agency to go full-time for ‘bugger all’ - I can assure you. 
Nowdays, I seem to be spending most of my time trying not to get caught out with 55-60 hour weeks all the time, the firm ‘wanting their pound of flesh out of me’ as it were. Such are the hazards of “Salaried” alas. 
I agree with the OP lorry drivers are Stupid, stupid enough to work in the for profit sector then ■■■■ and moan about the T+C’s
For profit was finished years ago however drivers will work for peanuts sleep in a tin box and think £450 net is good money for a 60+ hour week, idiots.
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all that matters is what you take home if your happy with it who cares?
I have an ok salary but come out with bonus and add ons which to me make it a decent salary / package, some of the drivers I know earn far more than me but get up at 3am daily. I cant do that anymore I couldn’t do it when I was younger!
I love my job, knew what I was getting into from the get go.
Wouldn’t go back to being a top tier internet marketer (whatever that is) for any amount of money.
Nor a micro ■■■■■ ■■■■ star come to think of it.
Choice, we all have it some have less some have more. No good worrying about what others are earning.
Course my choices are cushioned by a nice property port folio, pyramid scheme earnings and a potential book deal with xhamster.
Dipper_Dave:
I love my job, knew what I was getting into from the get go.
Wouldn’t go back to being a top tier internet marketer (whatever that is) for any amount of money.
Nor a micro ■■■■■ ■■■■ star come to think of it.Choice, we all have it some have less some have more. No good worrying about what others are earning.
Unfortunately drivers being drivers, that’s exactly what they spend most of their time doing. Green-eyed monster.
Course my choices are cushioned by a nice property port folio, pyramid scheme earnings and a potential book deal with xhamster.
You want to be careful mentioning that on here Dave, you’ll have Barrie Tozer contacting you for some tips as I hear he’s struggling to get his pyramid scheme off the ground. 
Rog270:
…but i d rather stack shelves…
That old chestnut. Change the record ffs. That’s everyone’s favourite go to line. “Oh I can make more stacking shelves”. Well as Colin said, go and ■■■■■■■ do it then if its so great. When you’re (maybe) earning more per hour but doing much less hours and on a zero hours contract, do come back and tell us how wonderful it is to spend your working shift putting tins on a shelf and the exciting time you had that day when someone asked you were the parmesan cheese was.
If you don’t quit lorry driving and take a job stacking shelves, ill expect you never to mention again about how you’d rather do it than drive lorries
I can never work out why all wage whores want me to stack shelves. Did it once (long story part of a ■■■■ sketch, woman needed help reaching an item on the top shelf and was so grateful afterwards she let me ■■■■ on her top ■■■■■■■■).
Dipper_Dave:
I can never work out why all wage whores want me to stack shelves. Did it once (long story part of a ■■■■ sketch, woman needed help reaching an item on the top shelf and was so grateful afterwards she let me ■■■■ on her top ■■■■■■■■).
We can always have a laugh when you post.It makes me wonder whats goes on in your head lmfao.
My post is not intended to downgrade shelf-stackers.I use it as an analogy…We through training and experience should receive an hourly rate above an untrained position… But reading some of the posts …reminds me of a book I read 30 yrs ago The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist…It’s about a man who was frustrated at his contemporaries to recognise the inequity of our industry… But still are willing to accept poverty wages
Colin_scottish:
If you want to go and stack shelfs then [zb] off and do it then no one forced you to drive lorrys did they.
“I’ve got no money so I’m going to do a lesser paid job instead.” The amount of ■■■■■■■■ chatted on here is impressive.
I wonder how much people are spending posting all this stuff on here?
I know you get these packages these days with “Unlimited texts” and that, but surely there are still the roaming charges coupled with data caps?
I don’t want to be spending more running an Iphone than running my car per month - so I don’t.
Data storage online is so close to “free” right now, that anyone who pays ‘per go’ or pays a hefty ‘subscription’ to type up “■■■■■■■■ on here” has got to be a mug! 
Been reading this, seen all the Standard Cliches,
Shelf Stacker, but as has been said by somebody working for a Supermarket, you can’t put the hours in to make a living wage.
Truck driver have more responsibility, look at many industries, it isn’t the responsibility that increases the pay it’s supply and demand.
And if it such a responsible job maybe a few drivers should start driving like they take the responsibility seriously.
Being an unpaid security guard for sleeping in the cab, Nobody has ever expected me to tackle anybody interfering with the truck or load while I’m doing a night out in a cab.
They should be paying more as the fuel price is going down, so when the fuel price goes up you’re not going to complain about a cut in wages to cover it?
And the reality is the most companies would have had a fuel price escalator in their contract, so rates are adjusted to the fuel price.
I haven’t seen the Train Driver cliche on here yet, but if you want parity with Train drivers then you should be pushing for a proper training regime and selection process. Not to mention that Train Drivers tend to be in a union and use that to their advantage.
I think a lot of Truck Drivers haven’t worked in other jobs, so just believe they’re hard done by and everybody else is having an easy life, I’ve worked in Warehousing, IT, Office jobs, they all have their down sides and the wages aren’t always what you’ll be lead to believe.
As for premium rate after 40 hours, well as somebody said sometimes it’s better to have an enhanced basic rate and no overtime rate, really depends on hour many hours you do.
But really if you’re not happy with the rate you get paid then you need to look for something else, if you can’t find anything better paid, you’re probably getting what you’re worth, if you keep voting for governments who support a free market policy you get paid a free market rate.
Mr Muckles…For some reason this site allows people to join who 1… Are guvnors who reply to bad comments about their company… Or people who have a minimum amount of knowledge of what a Lgv1 drivers job is all about… Where do you fit in
Rog270:
Mr Muckles…For some reason this site allows people to join who 1… Are guvnors who reply to bad comments about their company… Or people who have a minimum amount of knowledge of what a Lgv1 drivers job is all about… Where do you fit in
Sorry when I signed up to trucknet I believed it was a discussion forum,
I must of missed the bit that said you’re only allowed to sign up here if you’re one of the pig ignorant truck drivers who sit in RDC’s complaining at the top of their voice about everything and anything but aren’t capable of listening to anybody else unless they’re nodding in agreement with you.
muckles:
Rog270:
Mr Muckles…For some reason this site allows people to join who 1… Are guvnors who reply to bad comments about their company… Or people who have a minimum amount of knowledge of what a Lgv1 drivers job is all about… Where do you fit inSorry when I signed up to trucknet I believed it was a discussion forum,
I must of missed the bit that said you’re only allowed to sign up here if you’re one of the pig ignorant truck drivers who sit in RDC’s complaining at the top of their voice about everything and anything but aren’t capable of listening to anybody else unless they’re nodding in agreement with you.
truck drivers moan its what spending 10 hours a day all alone I a cab does to them/us. I agree with muckles I have worked in different industries, I do now actually. having said that all the old clichés that come out are all crap yes you can get £10 an hour at lidl, truck driving isn’t a skilled job whether you like it or not, the dcpc could have made it more skilled but technology etc. is making the job easier rather than harder or more skilful. anything you can train for a week and be technically ‘qualified’ isn’t a skilled job it never will be the only people who think its skilled are truckers.
as others have said go and do your 10 hours at £10 at lidl enjoy it and feel free even as a shelf stacker to come back on letting us all know how amazing it is living on the great wages etc.
Snowman you dress up as a Christmas Elf to go to work on a daily basis as .Mr Colin…Check out my thread on another issue regarding time an half…£580 for 57 hours take home ( + two nights out )sing your song to the newby…not a man of 35 years standing…I can’t read and I can’t write …but I can drive a TRACTOR. LOL
PS…That’s £580.00.take home…Sutton’s Widnes…for 57hrs no breaks taken…equals 11.5 hours a day. Eat your heart out honey