Be honest, now 
TruckDriverBen:
Be honest, now
Never killed anyoneā¦
ā¦yet.
That I`ve been found out for.
When I started I was the worldās worst,.I did not learn to reverse until well after I passed my test.
I got to the stage just like other vastly experienced drivers where I could put a trailer in anywhere,ā¦I used to even surprise myself sometimes. 
However last few years,.Iām experiencing upper arm tendon problems., that paired with the ā ā ā ā poor driving position of the Craptros, like every other aspect of my lifeā¦I aint as good as I used to be.
With or without a reversing camera?
I put very good, obviously i donāt have the same issues to deal with as artic drivers but i have to reverse many times a day into very tight back alleys while avoiding the many selfishly parked (abandoned) cars.
Reversing a what? Assuming artic + 3 axle standard trailer Iām about average. Some days better but mostly average
Then again I only reverse twice a day same places every time so hard to tell. WHen I occasionally go to a new place or somewhere I havenāt been in a long time I either nail it 1st ttime or struggle like a noob for 10 mins. Generally the more space the worse the struggle
On a Monday I can reverse it anywhere, but by Friday afternoon Iāll probably need half a dozen shunts to do the same thing
Can put an artic anywhere. I was fortunate enough a couple of months after passing my test to get put on a job on agency shunting in a poxy small yard with a normal unit a few hours a day before going out on a night trunk, it was so small you could barely fit a ā ā ā paper between trailers and a fair bit of blindside reversing for some of the spots you dropped them. Did that for 6 months and it sorted out my reversing and I recommend doing shunting even for a week or two to someone who has just passed their test or is struggling with reversing.
Where Iām at now the drivers they put through their apprenticeship scheme they have them shunting trailers around the yard for 3-4 weeks after passing their test so they can get their reversing figured out before being sent to do store deliveries as theresās quite a few where theyāve obviously walked around the town, gone āwhich is the worst one to get an artic inā and gone for that.
Did try reversing an A frame drawbar for a while. Eventually managed to be able to reverse it in a straight line but any corners and I was screwed - ended up with a forklift towing it out of one spot. Mind you it didnāt help that it was much shorter than the unit pulling it.
Sorry Double post.
Conor:
Can put an artic anywhere. I was fortunate enough a couple of months after passing my test to get put on a job on agency shunting in a poxy small yard with a normal unit a few hours a day before going out on a night trunk, it was so small you could barely fit a ā ā ā paper between trailers and a fair bit of blindside reversing for some of the spots you dropped them. Did that for 6 months and it sorted out my reversing and I recommend doing shunting even for a week or two to someone who has just passed their test or is struggling with reversing.Where Iām at now the drivers they put through their apprenticeship scheme they have them shunting trailers around the yard for 3-4 weeks after passing their test so they can get their reversing figured out before being sent to do store deliveries as theresās quite a few where theyāve obviously walked around the town, gone āwhich is the worst one to get an artic inā and gone for that.
Did try reversing an A frame drawbar for a while. Eventually managed to be able to reverse it in a straight line but any corners and I was screwed - ended up with a forklift towing it out of one spot. Mind you it didnāt help that it was much shorter than the unit pulling it.
I`ve never played with an āAā Frame. Love to try it,
ā¦provided there is no audience. 
PS. Early on, after I passed my test I had an Atki with no power steering, that made you concentrate on getting it right too. No swinging from lock to lock with that.
Iām not the worlds worst but to my shame a shunter guy did have to say āJust uncouple it over there old ā ā ā ā and Iāll put it onā - after I attempted to get on a bay about 6 times.
Never not got it in Good side Iām pretty good, blind side average at best, try to do at least 1 every day to keep the standard above dreadful A frame, was pretty decent at that in my school days but that was an agricultural tractor that you could just turn in the seat to see where it was going. Could go backwards with a trailer before I could even drive a car!
It was tighter than a gnats chuff
The tighter the space the better I am it seems 
I used to collect for groupage to Ireland and the hub wasā¦ tightā¦ to say the last. ā ā ā papers between bays, yard built built before artics etc etc. Always got on thd Bay no issue apart from once when I turned up, all the bays were empty and it took Mr a few attempts to get on
Blindside Iām fine. So much time on the continent straightened that one out.
Franglais:
Conor:
Can put an artic anywhere. I was fortunate enough a couple of months after passing my test to get put on a job on agency shunting in a poxy small yard with a normal unit a few hours a day before going out on a night trunk, it was so small you could barely fit a ā ā ā paper between trailers and a fair bit of blindside reversing for some of the spots you dropped them. Did that for 6 months and it sorted out my reversing and I recommend doing shunting even for a week or two to someone who has just passed their test or is struggling with reversing.Where Iām at now the drivers they put through their apprenticeship scheme they have them shunting trailers around the yard for 3-4 weeks after passing their test so they can get their reversing figured out before being sent to do store deliveries as theresās quite a few where theyāve obviously walked around the town, gone āwhich is the worst one to get an artic inā and gone for that.
Did try reversing an A frame drawbar for a while. Eventually managed to be able to reverse it in a straight line but any corners and I was screwed - ended up with a forklift towing it out of one spot. Mind you it didnāt help that it was much shorter than the unit pulling it.
I`ve never played with an āAā Frame. Love to try it,
ā¦provided there is no audience.PS. Early on, after I passed my test I had an Atki with no power steering, that made you concentrate on getting it right too. No swinging from lock to lock with that.
Love to see some of the persistent oversteerers on one of those. Theyād be knackered in more ways than one.
Like you Iād always fancied a go with an A frame.
Luckily before I retired I got plenty of goes.
Its certainly not easy to start with but like anything else the more practice the easier it gets.
As for reversing never really had a problem although
latterly for some reason I lost some confidence in the dark. Probably the old mincers starting to fail.
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jakethesnake:
Like you Iād always fancied a go with an A frame.
Luckily before I retired I got plenty of goes.
Its certainly not easy to start with but like anything else the more practice the easier it gets.As for reversing never really had a problem although
latterly for some reason I lost some confidence in the dark. Probably the old mincers starting to fail.
The guy who owned it was an owner driver who was a friend of my uncle. It sat in his yard for a couple of years because he couldnāt do anything with it. My uncle took him on the docks with a pile of cones and had him reversing it for a weekend. I guess it eventually clicked, he could put that thing in places you couldnāt get an artic in. I thank him for only mildly taking the mick out of me when I told him I had to get it towed out. It was such a traumatic experience I still remember the place to this dayā¦
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Used to be a timber merchants 20 odd years ago. I pulled in, turned right expecting to just have to reverse backwards in a straight line, tip and drive out. I could handle that. But no they wanted me to pull round the corner and tip round the side. And that was that, buggered.
Whole thing was a pain in the arse though, even the lorry, a C reg Scania 82H, had a gearchange Iāve never seen before or ever seen since. It was a 4 speed range change and split. First six gearchanges worked how you expectā¦1 low, 1hug, 2 low, 2 high, 3rd low, 3rd high, 4th low, 4th high change range and go through them again but 7th and 8th different story. You think youād go 7th low, 7th high, 8th low, 8th high but you didnātā¦it was 7 low, 8 low, 7th high, 8th high like it had an overdrive box on like the old Triumph cars used to.
Iād say very good.
Iāve had to reverse pretty much every trailer including a-frame trailers.
So Iām kinda like a legend at reversing.
When the drivers in the office tell the clerkās that they canāt deliver here because itās too tight they point at me and say well he done it loads of time. Then the drivers looks at my in awe. Reassured that itās doable and he doesnāt have to go out with one less drop.
Iām very popular at work.