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I could not give a two penny ■■■■ how many of these illegals are in mainland Europ or anywhere else except those who infest my country.

What I do care about is the drain on my country, the virtual invasion of hostile cultures of young blokes, the crimes and disrespect they commit and show to my country, the ridiculous costs, and the proven risks to our women and girls.

Oh Jeezus, Comical Ali makes another appearance.:joy:

Yeah sorry mate as ever you know better, France provides 4 star all inclusive facilities, free health and dental care, pocket money, and all the extras like bicycles, taxi and bus passes, and trips to watch Arsenal (or in this case Paris St Germain) playing in the cup, and not a tent in a rat infested field in Dunkerque with a bucket to sh in.

What was I thinking.

Thing is mate it’s hard to have a constructive debate with somebody who is 33+% deluded, 33+% brainwashed 33+% servile to the course …100% indoctrinated.

Yeah of course he is….

I believe nothing him/they say to I see it.

Cheers.

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you have been told 1000’s of times what the incentives are but you refuse to see it.

so what you are saying is that france had 239,000 come through their country in 2024. or could it possibly be that they got caught breaking the law and said they were claiming asylum then came here. in 1 quarter they got rid of 35,000 are you saying they toddled off back to bongo bongo? grow up.

that info that we were never allowed to access huh. and i thought we already had access as part of the one in one out reduction in illegals not to mention the billions we have given them while people starve and are taxed to the hilt in this country.

bottom line starmers one in one out that will stop the numbers increasing because he is to thick to understand 2000+ a week - 50 + 50 is still 2000+ a week as anyone with a brain cell could tell you it was a stupid plan and just an excuse to funnel more tax payers money into the hands of the eu and macron.

here is an idea how about applying the same metric as you do to trump everytime you think some thing is a good idea pretend its trump doing it.

The UK does use buildings that were once 4* hotels.
4* hotels provide room service, and loads of other stuff that they do not give tom asylum seekers. Guests in 4* hotels do not share rooms with other guests.
I have provide many links in the past to show that France and the UK offer similar levels of support, housing, food, health care, etc to asylum seekers.

Those on Dunkirk beach are not seeking asylum in France. They are trying to get to the UK for whatever reason.

French charities give extras to asylum seekers just as charities in the UK do. More or less? I dunno.
Both countries tax payers supply similar things.

You are worried about possible criminals coming to the UK? Fair enough. So wouldn’t it be better if the EU shared data and finger prints etc with the UK? Isn’t a good thing that Starmer is trying to get that back?

27 EU Member States and 4 Schengen Area Associated Countries: Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein all hace access to Eurodac. Not (currenrtly) the UK. It shares infromation on asylum seekers who shop around for asylum in various countries. If they are refused in country A and then try again in country B, B can input the fingerprints and see why they were refused in A instantly. They can see if they have any convictions in other member states.
We used to be in line for that, but left it all behind in 2020.

If we had access to the history of asylum seekers we would find out, wouldn’t we?
See above for what happened in 2020.

if i put lipstick and underwear on a pig and make it stand under a lamp post does it make it a prostitute or a pig in underwear and lipstick. claiming a 4* hotel at neigh on a 1000 pounds a night isnt a 4* hotel because it houses illegals is just as stupid. if you really think that then i need a favour i stayed in a hotel on holiday on a group tout and had to share a room or pay extra you can help me sue to get my money back… ill give you 25% of everything we get.

and we have posted many links where france only gives support in specific cases not as soon as they rock up on the borders.

and are those french charities funded by the equivalent of the home office with tax payers money? dont think so some how

again they wont do that they never ever have. why do you think all the ee’s brought cars over from ee countries? why do you think you see so many vehicles now with irish plates. because they could never be traced. thats how dartford tunnel could never get the money back for unpaid tolls

Untrue.
The UK did have access to that info pre 2020.

“But the lack of access to the Eurodac fingerprinting system – which stores more than 7m fingerprint records and was lost to Britain with the ending of the Brexit transition period in December 2020 – limits potential collaboration.”

When we were in the EU speeding and other fines were chased abroad by UK authorities, Now they cannot do so.
Pre 2020 registration details were shared. Not now.

Franglais your gullibility and shear belief in everything you are told in an official agenda is off the scale….it knows no bounds.:smiley:

Just you carry on in your own little world of delusion…is it any wonder nobody takes you serious on here with your political input.

You’ve seen actual undercover footage of these guys in their 4STAR HOTELS and the service and quality of food they get, I have told you stuff my mate told me who actually worked there in security,.and still you go down this ‘‘frugal hostel’’ b/s that you have been told to say, and refute everything else.

Just crack on….you are beyond reason

Have I said anywhere that all asylum seekers are in frugal hostels?
I don’t think I have.

Most are basic accommodation with basic food.

None are in 4* hotels as you repeatedly say.
Some of the buildings used to be 4* hotels, true, but 4* hotels need room service etc etc.
The buildings used are often refitted to house more people.
No 4* hotel would expect guests to share with others. No hotel of any kind I know of would do that.

4* hotels for asylum seekers is exaggeration and spin from politicians. That is the B-S that you have been repeating.

Not all the buildings used are crap, but I have seen no 4*hotels.

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so the billions in unpaid taxes and fines are just a figment of the hrmc huh ill remember that in the next few weeks when our taxes go up.

how about all the 443.4 million others then that reside in the eu. not to mention all the illegals that according to you are floating around europe…

do you even think before you type… or are you set to auto spiel

just remember four legs good two legs bad

How the ■■■■ do you (think you) know all this official line rhetoric/propaganda/bs is true exactly?

I have gave you my source of info…a guy who was on security, an ex Royal Marine in fact .

He loaned me a lanyard to look around kidding on I was on security with him….but I’ve told you all this before.

His words were… ‘These ■■■■ s are looked after better than we ever were’‘ and especially some of his ex mates who were down on their luck in civvy st……but I suppose you are going to hunt for a link to refute that one as well eh?

Just for the record the lad has left the job in case you fancied blowing your whistle with a potential location.:roll_eyes:….shooting Somali pirates last I heard, so possibly a ‘‘racist’‘ in your book?

Absolute balloon.:roll_eyes:

Apparently one of them enjoyed his stay here so much. He decided to come back.
He was deported under 1 in 1 out scheme .
Not sure. How they know this unless they have his fingerprints DNA.
If it’s true send him back again asap. Let him keep trying he will soon get the message.

And heard something on radio earlier French arnt doing much on grounds of health and safety ..if the go in armed /cut the boats up. Like they did for publicity while back.
They reckon if they keep doing it the immigrants will start to carry weapons and attack the authorities and they don’t want to take the chance that officers may get hurt.
You just can’t make it up at times

So, you saw the room service staff delivering a choice of meals to asylum seekers in their rooms?
A choice of substantial hot and cold dishes.
You saw the porters ready to assist people?
Saw waiting staff conducting diners to their tables?
All rooms have individual thermostats controlled by occupants?
All the above are requirements for 4* hotels. If they are not there it is not a 4* hotel.

Drama queen mode switched on again?

And?
An ex-workmate of mine has done a couple of stints at that. He is no racist that I have seen. He would probably treat all pirates equally no matter what their race/religion.

Are some ex service personnel in dire straits? Yes.
If all asylum seekers were put into kennels would all veterans be treated better? No.
False equivalence.
Some service personnel do need more help than they have been receiving it has been that way for years, It didn’t start when asylum seeker numbers increased and wouldn’t end if there were no asylum seekers. Linking the two is bollox.

Telsa are doing driverless taxis in a few states in the good old usa

Your man who owns it is looking at French ports with no captain needed 150 people a boat and 1500 hundred a head kids half price the French will jump at it, no more helping them onto boats or escorting them to the line in the sea

The taxi to the promise land he’s going to name it, cheap at half the price, they will be knee deep and all in a single line for practice before they get to the promise land of milk and honey

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You really are a weapons grade knob mate…seriously, you should rein it in a tad.:grinning_face:

No neither did they have a cordon bleu a la carte evening , a champagne and cigar night or a dress for dinner night hosted by Gordon Ramsay.

They did however on the evening I visited have a full buffet, the sort you get on a wedding reception, other nights I was told a choice of hot meals off an extensive menu…., the chef wasn’t a fat dirty bloke in a string vest with BO either, it was a professional outside catering firm….doing very nicely.

Btw why am I wasting my time even trying to justify myself to a deluded clown like you, if you ain’t believe me I simply CGAF.

Plastic all front hard man mode switched on again?

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Ok…but tbh I wasnt being entirely serious, more facetious,….but there ya go.

Is it now Confuscious?

But it does show the priorities of your beloved socialist woke govt…..ie ANYBODY over indigenous

So, if it doesn’t have room service it is not a 4* hotel. That is the way words work.

It is just an exaggerated term used by politicians to rouse up feelings, and repeated by others as a mantra.
Four star hotels…ommm…fighting age young men…ommm…scroungers and wasters…ommm

Well this should appeal. It seems that our much vaunted and admired, in some quarters, Reform controlled County Council are just as stupid as the last lot were.

“it (is) council policy to only install high friction surfacing at locations where there is a history of crashes due to a lack of grip on the carriageway.”

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/slipping-lorries-cause-utter-chaos-on-steep-hill-331501/

The hill is 1in7 with multiple iron manhole covers for a short distance in a line with the nearside wheels. I struggled up this, in a downpour, driving a 4x2 unit this morning, at 32 tons all up, with an urban trailer. It never actually lost traction, just slipped momentarily and crawled 4 gears lower than normal. It never put the ASR light on.

Wouldn’t have been much fun with some 6 axle units, or with a load that was weight biased towards the front of a rigid, or rear of a trailer.

Reform made a lot of fuss about how it would be easy to cut costs in local gov spending. Having cheap road surfaces look like it part of the plan.
In older news

But newer news and in Kent again

Yeah who can forget when you sent me a diagram explaining the star ratings of hotels…..certainly not me.:joy:

Comedy gold.

5 star 4 star 3 star or whatever ……better than a tent and a bucket.anybody except you can see that.

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Yeah of course it is pet….there there you keep telling yourself that.:joy:

And wtf does ‘‘ommmm’‘ mean, what are you 5 years old? :roll_eyes:

The virtual invasion of young men of fighting age all scroungers and wasters is a fallacy, they are all young families Doctors and engineers fleeing war and persecution….

How’s that for terms used by the more pathetic woke politicians of your ilk.?

Ya know what mate, I never put a curse on anybody, nor wish ill will on them, but I’d actually see the funny side and the poetic justice of you getting bummed to death by a few illegal sex offenders on your way back from the neigbourhood watch meeting.:joy:

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Jeez all the cover up of Pakistani ■■■■ gangs by Labour councils….and this is deemed important as far as councils go? :flushed_face:

Oh hang on a Reform Council I get it.

So the BBC….well we all know the BBC.

And what’s this…The Byline Times.?.:thinking:

Ahh right more Bleating Lefty horse crap….got it.

It’s fun investigating the source instead of concentrating on the content,.you’ve opened up a whole new world for me Franglais.

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Bubba, the deluded prlck, (Forest Gump).

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