Political discussions... (Part 1)


Get back in your box Shammer…

Better idea Farage and his controlled opposition party can do one.The Reform vote gets what it deserves.This is the vote that followed Farage in branding Batten led UKIP as too extreme far right.Good luck with that.

Nope, didn’t understand a word of that. Obviously i understand that it was English, just not the order it was presented in.

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Let’s just say I won’t be voting Reform.I had my doubts about the way that Gerard Batten’s supporters were labelled as farrrr rrrrrite by Farage and his followers.If King and forces want the place to go where it’s headed then let it go.

The Ma Deuce is air cooled like the MG42, BAR and Bren.All good at stopping large amounts of people moving in where they aren’t wanted apparently.

You can see why the Yanks have got Starmer’s Britain sussed about the eradication of free speech.
Vote Labour !.

Just been watching/listening to Farage and Jenrick absolute puke bag stuff.
Nige has just imported another threat to his ego, makes me wonder if the Tories are trying to undermine Reform with a Trojan horse.

Rupert Lowe

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One message has been reinforced today, in THE most spectacular fashion. Westminster is a vile snake-pit, infested with those who put their own personal interest above that of the country. There are an exceedingly small handful of patriots, but that number is vastly outnumbered by those who have their priorities in the following order.

Self.

Party.

Country.

Party politics has failed. It has failed all of us. It’s failed Great Yarmouth, it’s failed England, it’s failed Britain. It is a circus. A pantomime. A show. With no care for what’s really being inflicted on decent taxpaying men and women. They all treat it like a sport. It’s not. It is our country. Our home. Our people.

The solution? A Reform dictatorship that is packing its ranks with the very same people who decimated the country over 14 dire years? I think not.

Nadine Dorries? Jake Berry? Lee Anderson? Nadhim Zahawi? Really? Are these the people to turn this country around? A Labour defector is on the way too. I mean, really?

Even Jenrick, who has to take full responsibility for what happened on his watch as immigration minister. Entire communities transformed into what now resembles the third world. Vast streets of foreigners unable to speak English. Towns, changed beyond recognition. This is what they did to our Britain. All of them. Today, he betrayed his colleagues. That’s his choice.

I am of the view that nobody who has had any role in past Governments should be allowed by the British people to serve again.

The damage is just too immense, too grave, possibly even too irreversible.

All these washed-up former MPs who are weaponising the rightful anger of the British people to slink back into Parliament. It’s sickening to watch.

Please remember this.

THEY DID THIS TO THE COUNTRY.

These are the people who destroyed Britain. They will not fix it. Reform will not fix it.

Farage was supposed to destroy the establishment, not join them. That is why I backed him for so long. I was wrong to do so.

Sadly, joining that establishment is all he cares about. He wants to be accepted by the people who spurned him for so very long. That is what drives him. Take revenge on a Conservative Party that refused to accept him, and then force them to bend the knee and kiss his ring.

Party politics is dead.

We need an entirely different way of doing things - hundreds of men and women from outside politics, put forward for election. All of whom must have had NOTHING to do with how our country has been so abhorrently failed.

I am going to think long and hard over the weekend about my next step.

Britain doesn’t need mere reform from the same arsonists who burnt it to the ground.

A real alternative MUST be provided. I will do that.

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Advance might be a decent alternative, led by Ben Habib.

I agree but I think it would be an even better alternative if led by a Politian with British ancestry, I think Ben Habib would probably be OK with Rupert Lowe taking over the leadership of Advance-UK :+1:

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I would ordinarily agree, but Ben Habib appears to me quintessentially British, and his mum was a Londoner. I think his heart is the right sort, and he appears to have a lot of integrity. I agree that with Rupert Lowe on board they would likely get my vote.

Quate from Politico.

September 2025: Don’t let Farage run a school, says Jenrick

Jenrick told the Sun Farage was “a good bloke to go to the pub with and he speaks to a lot of people in the country.”

“But I don’t think Nigel’s the kind of bloke you want to have running your kids’ schools, or running your local hospital,” adding he wasn’t sure “if Nigel actually thinks he is the right person to do that himself.”

And earlier that year, Jenrick said it was his ambition to “put Reform out of business,” and send Farage back “to retirement.”

That hasn’t quite happened. If you can’t beat them, join them, eh?

Hardly besties.
7 times Nigel Farage and his new best mate Robert Jenrick fell out – POLITICO.

Does it REALLY come as a surprise that politicians are self serving? and fickle? …surely not.
That is how they roll…the nature of the beast.

I have mixed feelings on this Jenrick move, I’ve always favoured a lot of the stuff he has done and said, and if he had become leader I think the Tories would have been a stronger party.

I’m looking at this as a positive opposed to a negative.
It’s like football, a good player can change alliegance and be a good asset to a team.
If Keiran Mbappe joined Newcastle I would not give a toss that he had led previous clubs to success, I would accept him as an asset…as should Reform with Jenrick.

Jenrick has some good opinions on things which correlate with a lot of people, he could have a high profile job in a Reform govt, and be an asset imo.

Starmer comes out with his usual crap about Reform being ‘‘has been Tories’’, that and the bleating lefties showing disapproval?.. bring on the litmus test on that one, if the lefties show disaproval or ‘‘positive spin pseudo gloating’’, you can sure as hell bet the situation is a positive one to the country​:grinning_face:.
Starmer’s most ironic one yet though, he says ‘‘The Tories are a sinking ship’’…a bit rich coming from the Skipper of a political Titanic party :joy:.

This will more than likely get a mixed response.:grinning_face:

The Tories don’t need a ‘Trojan Horse’s to undermine Reform.

Reform is more than capable of undermining itself.

The country needs/needed a Gerard Batten and TR led party.But that would be called farrrr rrrrrite.Jenrick and Zahawi is all the country deserves it’s done.

Matt G sums up the whole present cluster ■■■■ of defections and loyalties, and how to use them to an advantage… mainly to rid the country of this present joke in govt.

Yes more of the crap you post

It’s called wash and rinse and if you want to bankrupt the country that’s the way to do it

Unbelievable

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Yeah ok ‘‘Pigs ear man’’ :rofl:

(It doesn’t stop you always responding to me though does it now…go on, admit it..
. .Ya love me really.:joy:)

Gee thanks man…I’m touched.
Yeah I am, you aint the first to call me that.:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

‘‘The things you say, your purple prose just gives ya away, the things you say…you’re unbelievable’’.
:joy:

Anyhoo back to the grown ups…
TR gets ‘angry’. :joy:

Here’s another take on things from… ‘‘the dark side’’ :scream: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Yeah that’s right Ed lad because things are sooo great now with the present outfit who share a lot of your politics.
Now just off ya pop and head back home…to your status in the village.:joy:

Somebody has him sussed.:smiley:

Crap is hearing Communists deny that Lenin was a Communist, who created the Socialist USSR and who ordered the murder of the Romanovs by his Communist red army rabble along the way.
Socialists are full of it.