Political discussions... (Part 1)

Far better for you maybe as by the end of that diatribe your target would’ve either slipped into a coma or slit their wrists in an attempt to escape

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I could have just abbreviated it with Nazis = Socialists.But what would be the point without the reasons why.

Jeff Banks true patriot with his take on the present situation, for me the fly in the ointment is Farage. We need Restore Britain with Rupert Lowe, Ben Habib and a few good Tories.

Rupert Lowes Restore Britain isn’t currently a political party I believe it’s a sort of think tank, at the moment the only political party that’s truly for the British people is Advance-UK

I’m afraid the chances of Farage putting his ego to one side is zero, he’s far to busy sucking up to the the Muslim communities to have any serious regards for the good of Britain, now he’s putting a Muslim up as Reforms candidate for the London Mayor election :frowning:

Could not agree more with Banks.

This country will never be great again until this socialist woke govt and intense ‘‘outside govt’’ left wing influence (by what is essentially a minority) is banished into history…it is absolutely inevitable that Labour will not get a second term imo.

The worst thing that could have happened to Reform (and the best thing that could have happened to the Left) is when Habib and Lowe fell out with Farage, a classic example of ‘‘Divide and Conquer’’ from the perspective of the left.

Farage talks a good talk, he is a politician after all, his success or faliure remains to be seen, but I can not see any point or any progress made by just voting in the Tories to get rid of this grossly unpopular inept govt.
Either a Reform govt which is an unknown quantity, or a coalition of Reform/Tory is the answer.
The Tory party have one ot two right thinking MPs the likes of Jenrick

As for Tommy Robinson/YL ?.. he is like marmite.

The fact his roots are in an essentially far right group the EDL does him no favours.

In mitigation that group only came about when the (now standard) 2 tier rulings towards Moslems, kicked off in his home town of Luton.
The insults towards the UK there were highlighted when Moslem protestors showed utmost disrespect to returning from war British soldiers, so you can see his point.
The problem is those movements attract the wrong ‘neandrathal’ sort, which does the cause no favours, so Robinson moved on.
Nowadays as proven by that very successful march rally in London, he is favoured by normal right thinking working class people, including immigrants, but still as ever the lefties use their default racism slurs against them all.:joy:

The lefty ‘litmus test’ is epitomised by TR, they hate him, which is a true indication that he is doung the right thing.
They pacify themselves by ridicule and muck raking, highlighting times when he broke the law in their parmtronising smug self righteous ways, but conveniently ignoring all the truth he speaks about goings on in the country.

Here’s ‘‘Karen off Facebook’’ :grin: with a synopsis.

As has been said before , he will no doubt get a better deal when history is written, erring on the ‘hero’ side rather than the ‘villain’.
I personally do not see him as a hero, on one hand a ‘Southern gob sh’’ on the other a man who speaks the truth, says it as it is,is not afraid of authority, and has the courage to go that extra mile for his beliefs rather than be shut down,even imprisoned, by the left and the establishment.
Good on him.

That’s me removing my ‘Worzel Gummidge’ style (politics) head off for now, and changing it to my football and beer one.:joy:.

Politics head back on.:laughing:

Thing is mate ‘‘damned if he does damned if he doesnt’’.

If he does not include any moslems he is a ‘‘far right racist’’ to these clowns.
If he does it’s tokenism or as you describe ‘‘sucking up’’.

Thing is there is absolutely nothing wrong with including Moslems in a party or a council, they are after all part of the make up of our country…most of us fully accept that…not implying you don’t btw.

Don’t believe the loaded hype of the left, I personally and many like me in this country, (and despite all the accusations by the brainwashed,) have no problem with Moslems, or any religion or ethnic community, …as long as they are integrated and favour our British values.
There is a moslem in the higher echelons of Reform Zia Yusuf, who I would vote for tomorrow…
It is the radical Moslem, the immigrants who do not integrate and who want to change my country to their stone age culture who I hate…that does not make me a racist, it makes me a patriot.

I have no connection with London, but if this lady is equally for all people in London without 2 tier favour, good look to her, anything is an improvement for the sad assed individual already in office.

Personally I would favour Ant Middleton, but that is nothing to do with religion, more due to the fact his patriotism to the UK is beyond any doubt big style.

I have nothing against individual Muslims but as I’ve said before no Muslim should be allowed to hold any form of elected public office in the UK.

If it’s racist to say that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, problems in the UK is Islam then I’m racist, we should know that the Islamification of the UK will result in the destruction of our way of life not theirs, if the majority of UK MPs were Muslim do you think they would be protecting the rights of British people or Muslims ?

It’s not racist to want to protect your own country from people who have shown that what they think is in their best interest is not necessarily in our best interest :light_bulb:

Ok, I see your point, but I do not see it as an ‘absolute’.

My own example as I said, we have a guy in Reform he is 2nd generation immigrant, British born.
He is an entrepreneur, a highly succesful businessman, and to all intents and purposes a British patriot who holds British values as a paramount priority…

He just happens to also be a Moslem
I can not see how the latter outweighs the former to stop him having any say in govt.

No It aint racist, …and I agree with you.
The only people who will call you (me) racist for those opinions are the servile and brainwashed left, who nobody (except themselves ).take seriously anyway.:smiley:

Yeah I get that, we have a ‘‘one man ruling force’’ in London which is an example.
That is why it must never happen, where Muslim ideology outweighs British values in a govt.
By the same token you could say that in any group who have the vast majority or even monopoly of a govt tbf.

You are preaching to the choir mate, I agree.
I get it the whole ideology of Islam is ‘‘Rule and /or kill all infidels’’
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As with every group there are 2 ends of an idealogical spectrum and a happy medium, they are not all the same…like football fans, I’m an avid Newcastle fan, but I aint going to rock up to a pub in Sunderland dressed in Black and white and storm in there gobbing off and causing trouble like one or two I know would.
I cant see Zia Yusuf donning an ‘S vest’ and wielding a machete in a London railway station shouting ‘Allah Akhbar’ anytime soon if you get my drift, …but I can see him playing a useful part in a UK govt.

I wish we could put this whole racism thing to bed once and for all….

Islam is NOT a race; at best it’s a repressive, middle age religion, at worst it’s a death cult seeking world domination. To call anyone racist who fears the spread of Islamification is akin to labelling someone racist for having a golden Labrador rather than a chocolate Lab.

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Yeah but don’t spoil the fun for the lefty clowns…they love what they (choose to) see as racism… it makes them feel sooo much better about their delusions.:joy:

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More betrayl to the country by Starmer.
This guy is unbelievable, he’s a law unto himself.
Not only is he leading us back into the EU by the back door, he is agreeing to us being virtually shackled to it WHEN his ridiculous govt is kicked out next general election.
The worst PM in history, the worst govt in my lifetime.

I just read about the ‘farage clause’ this morning. You know it’s going to happen, we’re ■■■■■■

On the news this morning they were on the Hungary Serbia border.
The border is virtually impregnable, those who manage to get over are ‘‘chucked back over the fence’’ essentially.

Their policy is if they get over they have already left a safe country so therefore do not qualify for asylum in theirs.
They are doing it in the face of EU rules, putting the welfare of their people over bureaucracy…basically saying F. YOU EU.

But the best bit is they are specifically using the situation in the UK as an excuse, and a warning… of ‘‘What would happen’’ if mass illegal migration is allowed without any deterrent…

That just about says it all as to how we are viewed by the rest of the world…a 'kin laughing stock.

Reform gets worse, this Zawahi guy will defo want to be heard and speaking louder than Nige might just get him his marching orders.

Rupert Lowe

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Just reading a tweet from Reform’s Zahawi where he states that it is ‘incumbent upon us all’ to support the vile Black Lives Matter.

I will politely decline, Nadhim.

Another article where he says that children can overrule their own parents to get the COVID jab.

That is a truly evil policy, in my view.

A video from a debate where he argues that immigration is positive because it means Somalians in Britain can send money back to Somalia.

His words.

‘Significant cuts to immigration would cut off a major financial lifeline to the world’s poorest’

My view on this is clear. I do not give a ■■■■ about the Somalian economy.

He speaks positively of the economy overtaking Germany ‘thanks to’ immigrants and their ‘higher birthrates’.

Think about what he is really saying there.

He pushed for an illegal migrant amnesty. For ALL illegal migrants.

I do not even need to tell you my opinion on that.

He and Farage at the press conference yesterday enthusiastically backed the mass COVID vaccine rollout, jabbing millions of healthy people who had NO need for that vaccine.

The evidence against this is now overwhelming. It should have been a FREE and INFORMED choice. And it should have been nowhere near children. That was truly abhorrent.

Zahawi was the minister behind vaccine passports. Making British citizens second class citizens purely because they refused to take the jab. That is evil.

There are thousands and thousands of decent Reform members who I have a huge amount of respect for. They deserve better than this.

Farage needs to apologise and eject this man from Reform - today.

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These effin lefy apologists and self appointed spin doctors are unreal…this personifies how these delusional individuals re.act to the uncomfortable truth when backed into a corner.
Here is one of those pricks trying to put a positive spin on building and renovating homes especially for these invading scum posing as refugees…all foc obvs.
(btw I know they think they know better than us but does this delusional dick really think he is convincing us? …Also the trademark patronising and pretending not to understand kicks in…hmm sounds familiar with TN past posts.)

They seem to have this mindset in their trademark out of touch with the electorate (not to mention reality) way, that as long as they move these scum from hotels that will pacify everybody, they refuse to accept the majority of the country wants them deported.
So this clown says it’s fine that they get priority over indigenois Brits for housing, as they will ONLY be in for 10 years, and then the likes of us will be ‘‘allowed’’ to move in…Clowns.:enraged_face:

Wtf, not like Liebour to make a u turn🤣

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So digital ID won’t be stopping the boats after-all then :laughing:

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Not as quickly or as effectively as a watercooled 50 cal would!

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Seems even The Independent can’t mention Starmer’s name without referencing excrement.